Official Designers Options

[*mona lisa*]

I brought this up Backstage but want member input as well.

Would anyone oppose the idea of removing the Offical Designer status of Off. Des.'s if they are no longer active and/or contributing? There's no harm in leaving them as it is since there isn't already a rule stating one has to continue to contribute once they meet the minimum requirements but doing this "cleanup" would keep the Off. Des. group tidy.

It was suggested that there be a requirement for Off. Des. to submit a certain number of submissions for a given amount of time. 3 per month? 3 per 3 months?

The only issue with this idea is that it's a bit tedious to keep track of the number of submissions someone submits and keep an eye on any new submissions accepted.

Agree/disagree? Comments/suggestions?

[*digital.fragrance*]

I totally agree. I think the minimum would have to be once a month, or something like that. Layout submissions should take longer to make than graphics submissions.

[*Infinite.*]

Honestly, I think its a great idea. Although instead of making 3 submission every so many months.

I suggest making a miniumum of like 2-3 submissions in each month, it would be easier to keep track of. And I would be more than happy to go check out all the official designers and see whether or not they met the requirements, and if not for that month then they can always try for the next month.

Although if you get taken off the status, what do you think should be the requirments for that? I mean if they just get taken off but their still active members but didn't get the requirement for that month, then should they have to submit atleast 5 or so to get that status back if they really want it?

[whomps]

So do mods know who the official designers are and whatnot ? Because I just got two of my submissions rejected and here micron states:

no. skins submitted by official designers are automatically accepted. so it is the responsibility of the official designer to name and format the skin accordingly. by the time someone has 7 skins accepted, they should pretty much be familiar with the format, so i dont forsee any potential problems. and even if a couple slip by that arent properly formated, theres always our talented staff members to fix them.

Just wanted to know whether or not that rule was still implemented..
And if anyone wants to know what I submitted, just say the word.

[*Infinite.*]

^But you've submitted over 7 skins, so shouldn't know you know the format of how the layout should be up there?

Are you sure it was how the layout was submitted, or something actually wrong with the layout that staff shouldn't have to fix just for your submission to be accepted.

[*mona lisa*]

So do mods know who the official designers are and whatnot ? Because I got two of my submissions rejected and here micron states:

Just wanted to know whether or not that rule was still implemented..

Their profile would have to be checked first since the submitter's member status doesn't appear anywhere in the queue.

For the most part, that is true. However, Ju-Sun added:

forgot to mention this, the staff team reserves the right to remove any skin thats been accepted. not that theyre going to, they just have the right to. also, official designers are asked not to resubmit skins that were previously rejected before they became one.

It should apply to any submission, not just those that are accepted. I'll update the thread. If a submission isn't up to par, it should be rejected, regardless of someone's status as an Official Designer.

[whomps]

They were graphics.. didn't think they were bad.. enough to be rejected.


http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8375/30stm1wy5.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1827/esclifeea9.gif

It should apply to any submission, not just those that are accepted. I'll update the thread. If a submission isn't up to par, it should be rejected, regardless of someone's status as an Official Designer.

It wouldn't be logical for Official Designers to have tons of skins that have gotten accepted and then suddenly submit not-up-to-par stuff, though.
So the only benefit of being an Official Designer is the.. title now ?

[*Infinite.*]

Ah I don't really touch graphics, did you even bother to messege the designer back that rejected them? I don't see anything to vividly wrong with the first one, the second I guess I could see if someone didn't think the lighting was all that great -shrugs- but I don't see anything to wrong wtih them, not as bad as some other things that have been accepted.

[whomps]

Yea, I replied to them after I got the message.

[*Infinite.*]

Well then, I don't exactly know deary.

Odd how things work at times though...Perhaps someone else will tell you what they think about your submissions.

[whomps]

Wait wait, who was it that was talking about how mods had to write a response as to why they rejected a certain submission when rejecting skins ?

Tadaa

^ Yeah, you've been a mod.
but I believe the graphics system was different then...
you didnt used to have to add a reason for rejection.

So would I be able to read that reason somewhere ? :O

[*Infinite.*]

Yea, when they reject your submission their supposed to put in a reason on which the graphic was rejected, also if not then you can always PM the designer back if you are concerned in why your graphic wasen't accepted.

[whomps]

^The reason is suppose to be included in the PM ?

[*mona lisa*]

It wouldn't be logical for Official Designers to have tons of skins that have gotten accepted and then suddenly submit not-up-to-par stuff, though.
So the only benefit of being an Official Designer is the.. title now ?

Sure, you wouldn't generally expect an Official Designer to make a horrible graphic/layout/etc. if he/she has already has many accepted ones but it's not as if it doesn't happen.

I don't have a problem with the first one. The second is just a tab bit blurry and not much work seems to have been done on it. But perhaps adding or changing the coloring would spice it up?

Yea, you should have a received a PM stating why it was rejected. >_> It's an automatic system now.

[whomps]

Yeah I didn't get a reason/PM as to why it was rejected by I PMed them and hopefully the mod will reply soon. :]

&Lol ! Sorry about the second one.. I guess it doesn't seem like much work was done but there isn't exactly a key on the modern-day keyboard that says Life, so I had to photoshop/create another key with this image, and I thought the idea would be creative but I'm going to shut up now because..
I realize that I sound like one of those people that go OH MY GAWD I SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THIS AND IT WUZ REJECTEDWTF yada,yada, yada

OH yeah and thanks Holly, you reply quickly.

[*Infinite.*]

Nah, its fine. I mean if you have any concern about it then your question should be answered.

But anyway to the topic.

[gelionie]

I don't think their status should be removed if they don't submit stuff for any period of time.

It's not like official designers have anymore benefits than official members, so I don't think it's a problem. Besides, I notice that some designers tend to save up their work and submit it all at once. They aren't really active in the forums. Without their submissions, cB wouldn't be here (well not exactly but you get what I'm trying to say). So, I don't think it's necessary to remove official designer status when he/she does not submit stuff.

[*digital.fragrance*]

^ You know, Winnie has a good point.

It might cause a member dissension, but on the other hand, it would produce more submission and contributions to hhe community. I suppose we have to weigh our pros and cons.

[jumpropeforheart]

um...if it were taken away, we'd just have a butt ton of official members because there isn't a lot official members have to do.

[*mona lisa*]

But is having a small group of Official Designers that consistently contributes worse than having a large group where many don't? And don't contribute at all anymore? Perhaps having a __ submissions in a certain amount of time is ineffective but there should be some rule so that we don't have a bunch of members who become Official Designers for the title (hypothetical situation here).

Winnie, it would be nice if Official Designers were active in the forums but if they don't want to and would rather just submit, I won't demand it of them. By activity I mean actively contributing.

[*digital.fragrance*]

^ Yes, I think a small group that actively contributed would be better.

[demolished]

Agreed. People are just ... leaving cb. I saw a CB layout with a credit labeled, "made for blogring". O________o

i would say, at least 1 layout a month. People are busy with school, social life, trip, and etc.



Someone can come up with a prize for someone who contribute the most layouts of the month?

[gelionie]

^ I don't think that contest would be a good idea.

I think it's really quality that matters, not quantity.
I know and trust design-type staff to reject the layouts which are not up to standard. However, if such a contest is set up, it may only put stress on designers to make an average quality layout in a short period of time instead of a high quality layout in a longer period of time. I'd rather prefer a high quality layout.

I don't think we should force official designers to submit a certain amount of stuff in a certain period of time, but maybe only after more than 3 months of inactivity, then the admins can take off their title. Any period of time shorter than 3 months wouldn't be fair for designers to work on something good to submit. I know sometimes it takes a long while for a good piece of work to be finished and I think the contribution itself is really what counts.

[*mona lisa*]

I don't think we should force official designers to submit a certain amount of stuff in a certain period of time, but maybe only after more than 3 months of inactivity, then the admins can take off their title. Any period of time shorter than 3 months wouldn't be fair for designers to work on something good to submit. I know sometimes it takes a long while for a good piece of work to be finished and I think the contribution itself is really what counts.

That's a good suggestion. There seem to be more and more members spending time on other obligations than on cB so it seems fair.