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Why does America want us to be so thin?
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post Jul 2 2007, 03:35 AM
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QUOTE(SinfullySweet @ Jul 2 2007, 04:13 AM) *
You guys can't hold fast food restaraunts for america's obesity. They're not shoving food in our faces. We choose to eat it. Sure, Mc Donalds is unhealthy, but the person that decides to eat it is their own fault, you can go around pointing fingers "MC DONALDS MADE US FAT" No idiot. You ate their food. _dry.gif



You know what's nuts?

A meal from McDonalds, #3; Double Quarter Pounder w/Cheese Large w/Sprite = 1,200+ Calories. And yes that's when French Fries of course.

Sadly, that meal, does NOT fill me like a juicy skirt steak, yellow rice, beans, fried yuca, and fried plantains. And a nice size plate of this, would be about 800 calories, tops.

So I'd rather have a nice filling home cooked meal, that I know isn't VERY healthy, but it's a heck of a lot healthier than McDonalds, and fills me up plenty.

Most of the time with my meals, I only drink water and or a protein shake.

Fast food in my opinion, is the death of Americans. I would recommend people to go on a fasting of eating oranges, coconuts, and salad with Bee pollen for at least 2 weeks to cleanse out all that chunky processed meat that's stuck in your colon from shitty fast food restaurants.
 
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post Jul 22 2007, 06:54 PM
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I agree with you... why does america want everyone to be skinny?

Honestly, I don't look down those who are larger. It's not how we look, its about our personality.

Super skinny people -- like models, now a days -- are unhealthy and ends up in a wreck in their future. They may be pretty now, but their future is bleak.

I think, eating healthy is all what america needs to do. Sure, I love fast foods, but it only shortens my life indulging in unhealthy fats and foods.

I don't think america wants us to be skinny, i think they are trying to get us to eat organic and have a balanced meal. Excercise a good thing too -- sure, you may say, "hey, but isn't that the same thing as getting thin?"

Sure you may lose weight in the process, but it's healthier. Healthier does not mean a carrrot per meal. That's insane. I mean, steak with veggies for dinner. Cereal or toast for breakfast. chicken and noodles for lunch. that is a balanced meal.

I don't like getting too skinny... i just want to be fit and healthy. I want to be a model (honestly), but not those where you can see bones all over. A little chub should be acceptable.

haven't anyone heard of "having some fat is good for you as you age?" it's true. ^.~
 
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SCREW IT. I'M GOING TO JACK IN THE BOX RIGHT NOW AND ORDERING A TRIPPLE PATTY CHEESE BURGER WITH A HUGE FAT CODE AND FRIES.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 08:32 PM
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Cmon now, large girls will never be pretty, they have never been pretty and are not what men want. Theres only one reasonable explanation of why fat girls even can get married, and its because of desperate loser guys.

While being fat and ugly may not be entirely your fault, its your fault for not wanting to change and slim down. I'd say if you are 20lb overweight thats over the limit already.

I look down on fat and ugly girls because just that already tells me they dont take care of theirselves and it disgusts me. Often times too, these obese girls are wearing something that doesn't fit them.. it makes me want to puke just thinking about it. And then its common knowledge that obese people perspire heavily thus creating an odor, I mean you might think you dont smell, have you ever wondered why some people just walk away from you?

Generally people tend to associate laziness with obesity, its not that hard to get off your fat ass and jog for 30 minutes a day. Its good for your body and you will benefit too. After a workout I always feel much more refreshed. If theres not enough motivation, take yourself to a county fair and try to ride a pony. Then watch yourself get humiliated in front of everyone because you must weigh under 150lb to ride.

Its seriously not even that hard to stay fit, its disgusting that you use the excuse that you come from a big family and try to point a finger at the media for everyone wanting to not be obese. Whats even more so disgusting is how your parents had a child and allowed you to grow up with the image being fat = beautiful and healthy?
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 08:35 PM
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^funny, there are things that run in families..obesity, cancer, etc. and well the rest of your claims? i dont even want to waste my time trying to argue with someone as a;ldkfjad as you.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(retaliate @ Jul 25 2007, 08:32 PM) *
Cmon now, large girls will never be pretty, they have never been pretty and are not what men want. Theres only one reasonable explanation of why fat girls even can get married, and its because of desperate loser guys.

While being fat and ugly may not be entirely your fault, its your fault for not wanting to change and slim down. I'd say if you are 20lb overweight thats over the limit already.

I look down on fat and ugly girls because just that already tells me they dont take care of theirselves and it disgusts me. Often times too, these obese girls are wearing something that doesn't fit them.. it makes me want to puke just thinking about it. And then its common knowledge that obese people perspire heavily thus creating an odor, I mean you might think you dont smell, have you ever wondered why some people just walk away from you?

Generally people tend to associate laziness with obesity, its not that hard to get off your fat ass and jog for 30 minutes a day. Its good for your body and you will benefit too. After a workout I always feel much more refreshed. If theres not enough motivation, take yourself to a county fair and try to ride a pony. Then watch yourself get humiliated in front of everyone because you must weigh under 150lb to ride.

Its seriously not even that hard to stay fit, its disgusting that you use the excuse that you come from a big family and try to point a finger at the media for everyone wanting to not be obese. Whats even more so disgusting is how your parents had a child and allowed you to grow up with the image being fat = beautiful and healthy?

Fat people can be healthy mang.

QUOTE(SinfullySweet @ Jul 22 2007, 07:03 PM) *
SCREW IT. I'M GOING TO JACK IN THE BOX RIGHT NOW AND ORDERING A TRIPPLE PATTY CHEESE BURGER WITH A HUGE FAT CODE AND FRIES.

TAKE ME WITH YOUUUUUUU! SUPERSIZE! :)
 
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america' is just f-up'd in so many ways, with all the ordeal, people just have nothing to do. so they critize people. since the critizim happened in hollywood, it back bounces to us. why do you think they're are so many divorce's now a days?!

its all irrelevent. [sp?]
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(retaliate @ Jul 25 2007, 08:32 PM) *
Cmon now, large girls will never be pretty, they have never been pretty and are not what men want. Theres only one reasonable explanation of why fat girls even can get married, and its because of desperate loser guys.


Are you mentally ill? I know a lot of large people that are gorgeous.

As for your second even more ludicrous statement, maybe you should realise that being fat doesn't make a person who they are. It's bizarre that you look upon marriage as something entirely based on looks, or weight rather. blink.gif


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While being fat and ugly may not be entirely your fault, its your fault for not wanting to change and slim down. I'd say if you are 20lb overweight thats over the limit already.


How do you know they don't want to change and slim down? I know lots of people who are clinically overweight, but it's because they have big bones, slow metabolism or are just naturally built on a larger scale. Even if they wanted to, they couldn't slim down to your standards.

And see, thoughts like this are what drive eating disorders. Starving one's self may be the only way to achieve these impossible goals people like you are setting.


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I look down on fat and ugly girls because just that already tells me they dont take care of theirselves and it disgusts me. Often times too, these obese girls are wearing something that doesn't fit them.. it makes me want to puke just thinking about it. And then its common knowledge that obese people perspire heavily thus creating an odor, I mean you might think you dont smell, have you ever wondered why some people just walk away from you?


... What does someone's body odor have anything to do with America's expectations for people to be thin. You're getting way off topic, here. If you want to go talk about your opinions on how large people smell, take it elsewhere. The debate forum isn't a place to discuss juvenile things like this.

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Its seriously not even that hard to stay fit, its disgusting that you use the excuse that you come from a big family and try to point a finger at the media for everyone wanting to not be obese. Whats even more so disgusting is how your parents had a child and allowed you to grow up with the image being fat = beautiful and healthy?


Having a large frame can be beautiful and healthy. If you've even considered reading the posts before you, you'd understand that.
 
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post Jul 26 2007, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(salcha4u @ Jul 25 2007, 06:42 PM) *
Fat people can be healthy mang.

Why don't you shut up mang




The reason why there are still so many obese people in America is because there are those people who sympathize with or for them like yourself xkatt. Having a large frame can be healthy in some cases, but not beautiful. Quit kidding yourself and trying to help someones self esteem. Is it really beautiful for a girl to have a mans frame? Metabolism can be easily changed by working out and there are even specialty support programs just for obese people. Theres even salad menus at fastfood restaurants. Its just inexcusable, if you wanna debate this in person, I'd suggest your local http://curves.com/ in southern california.
 
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thanks katt! you just said about pretty much everything i wanted to say..im grateful happy.gif
 
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^x2 I'm not saying all fat people are beautiful or pretty; I'm just saying they can be. I've seen big and beautiful people before. so when you say none of them are pretty, I have to disagree with that.

Morbidly obese people who obviously are fat just because they're gluttonous and stuff their faces (especially when they're wearing unflattering clothing) .. are .. grotesque.

Heredity can only do so much and once you've passed that line, it gets to the point you're speaking about.

I'm getting the impression that you're encompassing all large people as this kind of large. And I agree, heredity will not make you that large and therefore, I can understand why you're disgusted by them. I am too. Believe me. I see a lot of those people around here.

But there are some large people like Queen Latifah that are beautiful and content with how they look thus making them so much more admirable.

My point is, large people can be beautiful too. It just depends on how you deal with the cirumstances you're given, but of course it's better to aim for an 'average' body frame.
 
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No seriously, wouldn't it be great to get rid of that one fat ugly girl.
I think the guys know what I'm talking about, the one ugly girl who you have to pretend to be nice to...

Queen Latifah is not beautiful though..she's not disgusting at most.

And your definition of Average body frame can be different from mine.

And again, I take action at the local curves where i hand out free slim fasts to those who need it most.
 
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I view large people as people, not undesirable objects that must be destroyed.
 
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post Jul 26 2007, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(retaliate @ Jul 26 2007, 12:36 AM) *
Why don't you shut up mang
The reason why there are still so many obese people in America is because there are those people who sympathize with or for them like yourself xkatt. Having a large frame can be healthy in some cases, but not beautiful. Quit kidding yourself and trying to help someones self esteem. Is it really beautiful for a girl to have a mans frame? Metabolism can be easily changed by working out and there are even specialty support programs just for obese people. Theres even salad menus at fastfood restaurants. Its just inexcusable, if you wanna debate this in person, I'd suggest your local http://curves.com/ in southern california.

Because that was one of the most ignorant and rude posts I have ever read.

QUOTE(retaliate @ Jul 26 2007, 12:52 AM) *
No seriously, wouldn't it be great to get rid of that one fat ugly girl.
I think the guys know what I'm talking about, the one ugly girl who you have to pretend to be nice to...

Queen Latifah is not beautiful though..she's not disgusting at most.

And your definition of Average body frame can be different from mine.

And again, I take action at the local curves where i hand out free slim fasts to those who need it most.

Queen Latifah is making more dough than you!

Are you really that closed minded? No one is sympathizing for the overweight, and that is certainly NOT why they are overweight. Even though overeating may be the first cause to being obese, there are so many other reasons. What about people with eating disorders? A glycemic diet? Insufficient sleep? Smoking? Genetics? I'm not saying that I would like being overweight either, but to look at them like they're a different form of human is insulting to them. What if they can't afford health programs, surgery, or a membership to the gym? It costs me freaking $30 for only 10 trips to the gym. Not everyone's body has to please you.
 
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Amen salcha4u
 
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I don't think they want us all to be pencil thin. There's just some people who have to lose some weight for health reasons, or others who should watch their weight in order to avoid major health problems.

I wouldn't mind weighing a little more than I do. I tried those things that are supposed to make you gain weight, but they never work! Grr!
 
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xkatt;
I view obese people as normal people too,but only once they start making a serious effort to change.


salcha4u;
Queen Latifah is definitely making more dough than me, but I'm content with everything I have & I assure you is more than enough and probably more than most people on this internet board have combined, so lets leave money (& Queen Latifahs lack of talent) out of this. Also I'll let you keep your dreams about becoming a fat actress like her too.

Of course, overeating & lack of exercise is the main cause of obesity, when you eat physical exercise is absolutely necessary for you to burn off the excess fat. It isn't necessary to get a membership to a gym or buy a expensive treadmill. Its even easier to buy a cheap pair of cross trainers and head over to the High Schools track to jog and walk. If thats too much, when they go out they can park in the back so they walk a longer distance. There are so many plans developed for fighting obesity, a quick google search will show thousands of results.



Are you seriously trying to tell me, that its not their fault they're obese? Cmon such mediocre factors like insufficient sleep? when they stop smoking? If they can afford cigarettes they can definitely get nicotine patches. Lack of Sleep is easily curable, as is weight gains associated to it by lowering the calorie intake.
Genetics can play a bigger factor, but it isn't impossible to change. Noone suggested that you need to get surgery to lose weight, thats the lazy & dangerous way out. There are plenty of medical clinics for poor. You don't necessarily even have to pay for a weight loss plan now, the internet has a infinite amount of resources for this.


Theres a good amount of products that are specifically marketed toward overweight people. Theres millions of dollars allocated to improving public schools physical education programs to keep kids healthy, coupled with increasing awareness. Money is not a huge factor anymore. Theres subway, and if you can't afford subway, you can go buy lean cuisine. Then theres slimfast and other various diet drinks. Theres a fatfree version of almost everything now. You even have specialty gyms like curves. Then you can join support groups...


You're right about only one thing though, not everyones body has to please me, but its about how they feel being looked at differently. When they sit down and make everyone else uncomfortable by getting into their comfort zone. Like I said before, you may not say you're a sympathizer, but do you really think you're helping the obese people with your kind words? Thats not enough to motivate them... ya I guess I am close minded, because I'm not a sympathizer.
 
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Well you're entitled to your own opinion. I'm not going to debate over your personal opinions on fat people anymore because that's not what this topic is about.

Weight is a sensitive issue and I just had to say something because you came across very rude.
 
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QUOTE(retaliate @ Jul 26 2007, 02:40 PM) *
xkatt;
I view obese people as normal people too,but only once they start making a serious effort to change.
salcha4u;
Queen Latifah is definitely making more dough than me, but I'm content with everything I have & I assure you is more than enough and probably more than most people on this internet board have combined, so lets leave money (& Queen Latifahs lack of talent) out of this. Also I'll let you keep your dreams about becoming a fat actress like her too.

Of course, overeating & lack of exercise is the main cause of obesity, when you eat physical exercise is absolutely necessary for you to burn off the excess fat. It isn't necessary to get a membership to a gym or buy a expensive treadmill. Its even easier to buy a cheap pair of cross trainers and head over to the High Schools track to jog and walk. If thats too much, when they go out they can park in the back so they walk a longer distance. There are so many plans developed for fighting obesity, a quick google search will show thousands of results.
Are you seriously trying to tell me, that its not their fault they're obese? Cmon such mediocre factors like insufficient sleep? when they stop smoking? If they can afford cigarettes they can definitely get nicotine patches. Lack of Sleep is easily curable, as is weight gains associated to it by lowering the calorie intake.
Genetics can play a bigger factor, but it isn't impossible to change. Noone suggested that you need to get surgery to lose weight, thats the lazy & dangerous way out. There are plenty of medical clinics for poor. You don't necessarily even have to pay for a weight loss plan now, the internet has a infinite amount of resources for this.
Theres a good amount of products that are specifically marketed toward overweight people. Theres millions of dollars allocated to improving public schools physical education programs to keep kids healthy, coupled with increasing awareness. Money is not a huge factor anymore. Theres subway, and if you can't afford subway, you can go buy lean cuisine. Then theres slimfast and other various diet drinks. Theres a fatfree version of almost everything now. You even have specialty gyms like curves. Then you can join support groups...
You're right about only one thing though, not everyones body has to please me, but its about how they feel being looked at differently. When they sit down and make everyone else uncomfortable by getting into their comfort zone. Like I said before, you may not say you're a sympathizer, but do you really think you're helping the obese people with your kind words? Thats not enough to motivate them... ya I guess I am close minded, because I'm not a sympathizer.

Wow, you wrote that much when you coulda just said that you hate fat chicks. You also realize most products on the market don't do shit to your weight right?
 
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Wow, you wrote that much when you coulda just said that you hate fat chicks. You also realize most products on the market don't do shit to your weight right?

While you may think that it doesn't work, it has a greater effect on those who are overweight. I do not hate fat people, I just think that there should be less obese people.
 
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While you may think that it doesn't work, it has a greater effect on those who are overweight. I do not hate fat people, I just think that there should be less obese people.


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I look down on fat and ugly girls because just that already tells me they dont take care of theirselves and it disgusts me. Often times too, these obese girls are wearing something that doesn't fit them.. it makes me want to puke just thinking about it.


It's okay, and you can think I'm fat or will be a fat actress if you want to.
 
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I don't see any contradiction there. Try again.

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It's okay, and you can think I'm fat or will be a fat actress if you want to.

I will, except I know that you won't become an actress at all. 2 words can be used to describe you. No Talent.

 
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I don't see any contradiction there. Try again.
I will, except I know that you won't become an actress at all. 2 words can be used to describe you. No Talent.

If you look down on someone, you obviously dislike them, which is as close as you can get to hate. If you think that there should be less overweight people in this world, you wouldn't be saying entire paragraphs of what you had written. Suggestions are nice, criticism isn't.

And thanks, I know I am so fat. Plz suggest something for me so that you don't hate me more than you already do.
 
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If you look down on someone, you obviously dislike them, which is as close as you can get to hate. If you think that there should be less overweight people in this world, you wouldn't be saying entire paragraphs of what you had written. Suggestions are nice, criticism isn't.

And thanks, I know I am so fat. Plz suggest something for me so that you don't hate me more than you already do.


If you would stop making assumptions you would give off the appearance of a well educated asian. If you look down on someone, you can dislike them, and/or possibly pity them. If there were less obese people in this world, there would be nothing for me to suggest. Theres so much to give, I doubt you'd understand being a lowly teenager.


Actually, I will suggest something for you. Study harder so you can get into a good university, but thats going to require a 1900 & higher on the SAT. Or try your luck on the ACT, and dont bother responding if you get lower than a 27 =)

Another suggestion, try saving the whales, not the obese. Obesity is not something we want in this society.
 

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