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ComradeRed
post Jun 24 2004, 05:14 PM
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I've disseceted animals before; you'll get used to it.
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 25 2004, 9:42 PM)
Each life has its own worth.

That rat that's being tested on may turned out to be the one rat that will carry the cure to whatever sickness that's being studied.

That rat's life will worth the lives that will be saved. After all, if it weren't for that rat, all those 'saved' people wouldn't stand a chance.

Now that is a little extreme, but life shouldn't be taken lightly.

i agree. testing it on animals isnt really horrible as long as there is limits. dont just abuse the testing. the test should have a purpose too.
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 05:20 PM
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I love cruelty towards animals. It's quite fun.
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 05:22 PM
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SAVE THE ANIMALS!!!!

EAT THE PEOPLE!!!!
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 24 2004, 5:20 PM)
I love cruelty towards animals. It's quite fun.

im only cruel to insects and spiders. i like taking their legs apart. torturing them, it is fun. once i drowned 200 cicadas in HOT water. hahaha they died instantly. also i breed some cockcroaches and killed them and their babies and watch them living for more than a week without air and without a head. torturing animals isnt fun, but torturing BUGS is FUN. BUWAHHAHA. im quite sadistical towards bugs.
 
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post Jun 26 2004, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 25 2004, 8:18 PM)
We have 46...

yeah and i was saying that only 2 chromosomes separate us
 
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post Jun 26 2004, 11:06 PM
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Hmmmmm animals caught then tested on NO....but if an animal was raised for it...well then i dunno...i mean i dont like it but would you rather it be tested on say your kids or siblings, parents, granddparents or ne one in your family.....think bout it survival of the fittest......

But for Cats......TEST AWAY.....i say use them as crash test dummys for nething and everything...like MOBILE TNT......i hate cats
 
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post Jun 26 2004, 11:33 PM
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i think animal experiments are okay. animals are animals. we use them to better human life. i dont see anything wrong.
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 07:54 AM
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post Jun 27 2004, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 27 2004, 7:54 AM)
I hate PETA. They support terrorism. They give money to terrorists.

ohmy.gif I did not know that.

Anyway, I like PETA only because they have good intentions towards animals. But I think they're too extreme... A little TOO MUCH or extreme amount of anything is bad.
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 01:16 AM
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i think animal experiments are okay. animals are animals. we use them to better human life. i dont see anything wrong.

Its a valid point.. I'm just not happy with the "animals are animals" statement.. WE, as humans are animals..

And.. speaking from a Darwin point of view.. animal testing would be alright.. because its survival of the fittest.. those animals die to better our lives.. (cruel but sad truth of nature)
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 02:17 AM
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there are a couple misconceptions about animal testing:


1. misconception: that animals are different from humans in every way such that we can't learn from them.
truth: mice have similar nervous systems, primates are very similar. we have been able to infect chimpanzees with HIV. notice the Human in the Human immunodeficency virus. we can learn a lot from animals.

2. myth: animals are tested for things that we already know about, like caffine and other drugs.
truth: most of the time animal testing is for new combinations, or for treatments. or for studies that would be unethical on humans.

like, how would you study what caffine during pregnacy affects a fetus with humans? go get whores and get the pregnat and feed the caffine and another group none and then abort the babies when you're done?

you have to use animals.

3. myth: animals are mistreated.
fact: they can be, if they are completely privately operated. but if they have government funding, they have to follow strict regulations.

animals must be given: proper air conditioning, adequet room for movement, ventilation, adequete food and water (unless the expirement deals with it). they must not be mistreated or abused.

the government has agencys that drop in to labs and checks. without telling them when they'll be there.




yes, the cosmetic industry does give a bad name to animal testing.

but it's necicary.

point in case: fountain of youth mascara (not sure if the name is correct. but it really happened)
this product was not animal tested.

it was sold, and thousands of people used it. till they felt the burning.

if you got a tiny bit of it in your eyes, it would burn. some 500+ people eventually went blind.
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 10:52 AM
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no rebuttals?
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 30 2004, 10:52 AM)
no rebuttals?

I agree that animal testing is an integral part of science and medicine and I'm sure others realize that as well.

For the most part, I'm more concerned with how these animals are treated and how the testing process is done.
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 03:19 PM
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For every animal you save, I'm going to eat 3.
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 03:22 PM
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For every animal you save, I'm going to eat 3. 

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif mad.gif

I certainly hope you're kidding about that..
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 03:23 PM
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Bring 'em all, pandas, zebras, monkeys, I'll eat 'em all.
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 03:26 PM
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Bring 'em all, pandas, zebras, monkeys, I'll eat 'em all.

... no comment.. anyone have anything constructive to bring to this debate? i think this one's pretty much done..
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 05:28 PM
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[FONT=Arial]sad.gif its sad =/ how would you feel if someone uses stuff on u? not good at all. ermm.gif
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 05:32 PM
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Honestly I think rats r the best to use, but i agree, They should b treated well and they need to be treated if something goes wrong.
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(thisisarcycledsn @ Jun 30 2004, 5:28 PM)
[FONT=Arial]sad.gif  its sad =/ how would you feel if someone uses stuff on u? not good at all.  ermm.gif

and how would you feel if you have no medicine for your illness because everything is in "testing" stage? (it would take forever to find a cure if there wasn't a test subject).

Have you consider looking on at all point of views?
 
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post Jul 1 2004, 01:22 AM
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Honestly I think rats r the best to use, but i agree, They should b treated well and they need to be treated if something goes wrong

But rats arent good test subjects for some things because they're not very similar to us
 
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post Jul 1 2004, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 1 2004, 1:22 AM)
But rats arent good test subjects for some things because they're not very similar to us

Actually they are. Obviously thats why humans use them for studying. Bring on the zebras. I'll eat it in 10 minutes.
 
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post Jul 1 2004, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(FlyingFries @ May 25 2004, 9:06 PM)
no, mad.gif if they need to experiment with the product then find some other way.....how would u like pple comin to ur home, yankin you out of bed and put experamental stuff on to you???

laugh.gif that made me laugh. That's why we do it to animals, so they don't do it to us.

QUOTE(AntiAnodyne @ Jun 30 2004, 4:19 PM)
  For every animal you save, I'm going to eat 3.



=D
 
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post Jul 1 2004, 08:33 PM
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ohmy.gif

Wait.. so for every one saved, AntiAnodyne eats 3, and for everyone they dont eat.. nas eats another 3.. yeah.. mass extinction right there.. ohmy.gif cry.gif

lol.
 
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