Physical Education, Should they ban it? Options

[EmeraldKnight]

Some people who are forced to go to P.E. dont even do anything cuz they're too cool to get sweaty. SO i dont see how that helps prevent obesity. They should at least replace P.E. with a health class.

And you think people will listen in Health? We had a health class.. the majority of the people either did other homework or slept..

PE you at least have to do SOMETHING; Health you can basically tune it all out

[inthemudhole]

I don't think it should be required, but I don't think it should be banned.

I think you should have to take it until junior high, then you can choose whether or not you want to take it. Some people would prefer to take another language or some harder classes.

Education is 530850938583509830985308503805830583085308583058 times more important than a stupid little gym class.. but yet people tend to disregard that.

[*tweeak*]

can we ban it now? because i havent taken it yet. and i reeeeeeeeeeeeally dont want to spend my summer doing that shit, because i dont have time in my schedual. it should not be a damn graduation requirement. as if 1 semester of PE will save me from a lifetime of obesity

[Spirited Away]

I had an awesome PE teacher in junior high two years in a row. He taught me basketball, flag football, volleyball, tumbling, badmington and relays, otherwise known as activities that I would never have cared to be involved in. Had I not taken the course because it was optional or banned, I would have missed out on the fun and experience of team sports and friendly competitions.

PE should be required even if the sole purpose is introducing different outdoor and indoor activities to children.

I wasn't the best player, nor was I a good runner who could run the mile in less than 7 minutes. I was a shy one who HAD TO open herself to receive all sorts of knowledge that CANNOT be taught in a classroom with books.

So, I can't imagine banning PE for any reason as I want my children to have the same experience. In fact, I want PE to improve. My high school PE sucked.

I also forgot to mention that PE can be a safe haven for those who need a break from the routine reading a writing for an hour or two. I would hate sitting and studying ALL day without some kind of recreational break.

Instead of thinking about what PE can prevent, how about thinking about what PE can offer?

[*tweeak*]

pain and suffering?

[azn_r4pf4n]

P.E. shouldn't be banned, AT ALL.
I live in Cali, and our state is known to have the MOST OBESE KIDS in the world. Thanks to our P.E. classes (which is so easy), I barely see any obese kids in my school, even though our state is known as the place of most obese kids.
(im in middle school)

[quote]QUOTE (strice @ May 18 2004, 8:06 PM)
[quote]PE should be required, but not for a letter grade. it sucks to have PE bring down your GPA.  [/quote]
You would be amazed at how many people in my senior class didn't graduate from high school because they flunked PE. [/quote]

It's pretty easy to pass P.E. for an A. all you have to do as at least try and you get your A. thats what i do.

[quote]some of it is realli pointless.. like line dancing, they teach line dancing at our school! why would we ever need that?  [/quote]

they taught us swing dancing in our school. it was a total nightmare, i had a hard time dancing with the taller kids.

[quote]it should be optional, like art. [/quote]

i can predict that only a few ppl in our school would take P.E. if that happened.

[quote]I remember this girl never ran the mile because she didn't want to run...she didn't run. [/quote]

I dont get how the mile is hard, its pretty easy. 2 b honest, hecka ppl r like slow when they run the daily lap, its shocking.

[quote]It should be required up until you finish high school. But PE grade should be based on participation. For example: (Don't grade people on how fast they can run the mile. You get an A if in the top 10% times.) That would be such bs cuz it's not fair to those who aren't in top physical shape but did their very best. [/quote]

Hmm, are there lots of obese kids in high school? Eh, it depends on what school if it should b optional for high school.

our middle school's p.e grading IS based on participation. are you tellin' me that your school doesn't base it on participation? wait... the mile? dude! i get A's from PE and i suck hecka bad at those sports the school gives me.

[quote]think that PE is good b/c it gives all the lazy bums that usually sit at home on their butts eating some exercise ... no offense to anyone.. that was pointed directly to me too haha! [/quote]

yes thats true, we're forcing ppl to take PE, otherwise ur grade goes down

[quote]p.e. should be required but the teachers need to grade on effort and participation, not athletic ability. [/quote]

exactly, our middle school grades it on participation. your school bases it's grading system on athletic ability? woaa... thats pretty dumb.

[quote]nah, physical education is really fun at my school. except for when we run the mile. that sucks, but haha suckers cause im fast. lolz. [/quote]

yep, im fast 2.

[quote]Banned, because if a student goes into his next subject, let say P.E., and after that subject, student's that haven't took P.E. yet, might smell him/her as stinky or whatsoever. And besides, it's not really eduaction, it's playing or something.[/quote]

stinky or whatsoever? our middle school doesnt even have showers or lockers (its not Cali's fault, it came like that b/c our middle school used to b an elemantary school)

[quote]Most PE classes i've seen and been in, they require you to dress everyday, 5 days undressed gives u a fail on your 5 week progress report. Now dressing, i think that burns about maybe 50 calories....thats nothing compared the 2000+ daily calorie intake. [/quote]

i never knew dressing burns about 50 calories. no wonder pimps dress up a lot and they arent fat. well, our school doesnt have lockers and showers and we cant change clothes for p.e.

[quote]well the thing is...most students in PE dont exercise...they just do stuff when they see theyre being watched..and since theyre not gonna be watched the whole period, theyre not gonna do much...PE in my opinion doesnt really do much to help decrease the obesity of people [/quote]

i can watch their grade fall.

the point is, PE is essential, so it should be required, but it can be optional when your in high school, depending if it has a lot of obese kids or not.

[*tweeak*]

i can predict that only a few ppl in our school would take P.E. if that happened.

thats not true. for some stupid reason, i know a lot of people who like pe

i, on the otherhand, think its a complete and total waste of my time. i get my physical activity in other forms, and as i said before, 1 semester of pe freshmen year isnt going to help anything. i dont have time in my schedule to take classes i want to take, let alone useless classes that i dont. i dont want to have to take it during the summer in the heat and waste hundreds of dollars taking it online, but i cant bear 18 weeks of it when i could be taking somethng progressive, especially as i wouldnt even have time till senior year. i dont think it should be banned, just not required. maybe the default class for people who dont get their electives straight; i dont care, it just isnt helping me a bit

[Spirited Away]

pain and suffering?

From?

AND it's not stupid to like PE, thank you very much .

[*tweeak*]

forced physical activity in the heat.

[EXPLO5ION]

our pe teachers told us that there should be pe because pe teachers are one of lines of defence against the obesity in children..

[Spirited Away]

forced physical activity in the heat.

That's what I mean when I said PE can be improved.

My PE teacher was smart enough to do different activities in accordance with the weather. Perhaps we can improve it to where there are facilities available exercising or plays sports in doors?

But I can hardly called playing ball in the heat painful.

[*tweeak*]

i live in georgia, its kind of hard to get around it. the school is far too cheap to air condition the gym. and the teachers dont care.

now i am lucky that ive managed to evade PE since 6th grade, but i still dont think it should be a graduation requirement. how does it help me? in what way does that make me more fit to go to college? are they going to look at my app and think decide that i can attend because i knew how to change out for PE everyday? i think not

[toodlepops.]

for some people, p.e. is the only time for them to do physical activities. so yea, physical ed => good.

[Spirited Away]

i live in georgia, its kind of hard to get around it. the school is far too cheap to air condition the gym. and the teachers dont care.

Once again, that ties into my point that PE can be improved.

We used to run the mile every Friday except for rainy days, then we'd go inside a CLASSROOM, not a gym because there wasn't even one, believe or not, and play "steal the bacon" or do some tumbling exercises. If you think your school is cheap, than mine was just plain POOR.

There are ALWAYS alternatives if your PE teachers are intelligent enough or resourceful enough to think of some.

now i am lucky that ive managed to evade PE since 6th grade, but i still dont think it should be a graduation requirement. how does it help me? in what way does that make me more fit to go to college? are they going to look at my app and think decide that i can attend because i knew how to change out for PE everyday? i think not

PE may not help you to get into college, but it does allow you to experience something that cannot be learned in the classroom. I learned teamwork and good sportsmanship. And though I can no longer run as fast or play basketball as well as I used to, I still enjoy watching the game. Before that, I didn't care to participate in anything.

Even in high school, I still enjoyed PE eventhough it sucked. I took honors and AP classes and it was tiring and PE was my break.

No, colleges won't care if you take PE or not, but not everything should be done to please colleges. PE is something beneficial for your health. Why would colleges care if you're healthy or not?

I'm planning to apply to law school next year and volunteering is a plus to many law schools. Guess what kind of volunterring activities they look for.

[*tweeak*]

Once again, that ties into my point that PE can be improved.

We used to run the mile every Friday except for rainy days, then we'd go inside a CLASSROOM, not a gym because there wasn't even one, believe or not, and play "steal the bacon" or do some tumbling exercises.

There are ALWAYS alternatives if your PE teachers are intelligent enough or resourceful enough to think of some.

that would be nice, but im fairly certain that they wont. and the mile is exactly where that whole "pain and suffering" thing comes in

PE may not help you to get into college, but it does allow you to experience something that cannot be learned in the classroom. I learned teamwork and good sportsmanship. And though I can no longer run as fast or play basketball as well as I used to, I still enjoy watching the game. Before that, I didn't care to participate in anything.

Even in high school, I still enjoyed PE eventhough it sucked. I took honors and AP classes and it was tiring and PE was my break.

No, colleges won't care if you take PE or not, but not everything should be done to please colleges. PE is something beneficial for your health. Why would colleges care if you're healthy or not?

I'm planning to apply to law school next year and volunteering is a plus to many law schools. Guess what kind of volunterring activities they look for.

my point wasnt that colleges would care about health, but that i could take more beneficial and enjoyable classes

[Spirited Away]

that would be nice, but im fairly certain that they wont. and the mile is exactly where that whole "pain and suffering" thing comes in

The fact that they won't is because there are so many people, like those in this thread, who do not want it. Why would they want to improve something that no one understands the benefit of?

The mile sounds gruesome, but in retrospect, I never heard one complaint from anyone except on our first time running it. Everyone got used to it after a while and we, a class 25, turned it into a friendly competition. Imagine that. A class of kids all shapes and sizes WANTING to run the mile.

my point wasnt that colleges would care about health, but that i could take more beneficial and enjoyable classes

I meant that colleges won't care about your PE credit because they don't care about your health, but you should.

Anyway, I don't understand how anyone would want to go to school all day and not want to take an hour break from books and lectures. I thirsted for it. The PE at my second high school sucked because our coaches sucked. They had no plan for students to get involved. At least in my first high school, we had a badmington competition.

[skaterjswife2]

wow by people saying there is no need for p.e. basically shows how lazy americans have become and how much p.e. is needed. k.

[*Weird addiction*]

no it shouldnt,it keeps you in shape

[smile4me]

we have it required for graduation here
(it starts from elementary school and goes to high school)
...and i think it should not be required.

it should be an optional class because ppl's GPAs get lowered by PE.

some schools don't require PE, and when colleges look at the GPAs, they dont take into account that some schools have PE while others don't.

so one school may have higher GPAs and their students will have an advantage over students in the other school..provided that we're comparing similar students.

...if that made any sense..

[Spirited Away]

One thing's definately for sure: PE shouldn't be optional, but rather, it should be improved and required.

it should be an optional class because ppl's GPAs get lowered by PE.

There are so many people who loves to blame their failings on others. Tell me, how does one fails PE?

some schools don't require PE, and when colleges look at the GPAs, they dont take into account that some schools have PE while others don't.

As I've said before, why would colleges care wether or not you've taken PE? It's a course that teaches you somethings you can NEVER learn in books. What do you do in college? You read more books.

so one school may have higher GPAs and their students will have an advantage over students in the other school..provided that we're comparing similar students.

Give me statistics.

If you cannot, just answer my question as to HOW a student can fail PE.

[*tweeak*]

now typically, one fails PE because theyre lazy and dont change out. but they could also fail because theyre incapable of doing the excersizes, and yet lack the doctors not to make it official. some people are more physically fit than others, and some people are in fact in capable of running miles and yet have no particular ailment to attest for it. i cant, because i dont have the endurance and i get asthma-like symptoms, but i dont actually have asthma, so i got in trouble for that in 6th grade (which was the last time i took PE). its just unfair, to have a regulated and required physical activity program that you get graded on.

[Spirited Away]

Once more, I've said that the quality of Physical Education should be improved and that definately includes competent intructors/coaches who would understand the physical limitations of each of their students. If schools can cater that, then there wouldn't be a fear of unfair grading for different types of students.

My coach was a 60 year old guy who drove a red convertible to work. When I first got cramps and refused to do any kind of activities, he was the one who unabashedly told me that mild exercises can reduce cramps for some people and told me to walk the mile instead of running. I would have been pissed off if he had not counted my "run" that day, but I found out that he gave me an A for attempting to finish it under condition. He told me "the point was for you to try out something that help you" (or something like that). And guess what, I've retained that lesson for a LONG time.

Competency of physical limitations should be a requirement for all coaches/intructors.

If it's not fair that PE should be graded on, then what makes grading Math or English fair? There are some people who are more talented with numbers and lack the same talent in writing, vice versa. I have the following analogy for you:

It wouldn't be fair for me to get a low grade in Math because I'm just not as good at it as you are.

Is that a fair thing to say?

[audory]

i think it should be required. i know that i wouldn't do sports if it wasn't required. unless of course, it was water polo.

[*tweeak*]

they have levels for math, so in fact people do get higher grades in math because theyre worse at it, it just doesnt mean as much. if you cant do it, then you can take classes where youre on your own level, and are graded in accordance. its much easier to get As in college prep classes then higher level ones, so theres a difference.

but what if something could be substituted? participate in a school sport, and it counts as your PE credit. i do marching band, and thats debatably a sport, so why shouldnt that count as having taken part in PE? of course, there would have to be plenty of specifications and limitations, but its an idea

[jennyjenny]

Why would it be banned?

Maybe it should be like, optional...
like, if you take a sport, then it's optional if you want to do it or not...

But yeah, some people don't even exercise at all. So the school provides them a way.