like or hate emo? Options

[sillakilla220]

no offense to anyone but personally that stuff is trash. whiny boys too in touch with their feminine side doesnt really appeal to me. just wondering cuz i hate seeing it on mtv, who else even listens to that garbage?

[banthisaccountno...]

(i stole the following from here)

Emo does not stand for emotional. Emo isn't that whiney rich kid in your algebra class who whines about how much his life sucks. Emo isn't that sh*t you see in Hot Topic or on MTV. Emo isn't My Chemical Romance or Taking Back Sunday or Dashboard Confessional or Bright Eyes. Emo is not a mindset. Emo is not a person, or type of person. Emo is not a corporate trend. Emo is not tight pants or moronic hair. Emo is not a fashion. "Emo" is not the use of diluted, meaningless metaphors and similes such as "My arms are like pinecones," and most definitely is not the rampant use of words such as "autumn," "heart," "knife," "bleeding," "leaves," and "razorblade." Emo is not cutting your wrists because your girlfriend dumped you and your mother wouldn't stir your chocolate milk. Emo is not bad music.

Emo is the term used for an underground movement of music in the mid-80's through the early-90's. What does emo mean? Emo is emotionally charged hardcore punk rock or "emotive hardcore". It is simply just a subgenre of hardcore. (Hardcore punk meaning bands like Minor Threat, Bad Brains, Black Flag, FEAR, etc.) In the original incarnation, the term emo was coined to describe the sound of (Washington) DC area bands such as Rites of Spring, Embrace (Ian MacKaye's transitional band after Minor Threat and before Fugazi), Dag Nasty, One Last Wish, Moss Icon, Grey Matter, and Fire Party, Rites of Spring being the first actual emo band. Most of these bands sound nothing like today's "emo".

In 1985 in Washington, D.C., Ian MacKaye and Guy Picciotto, veterans of the DC hardcore music scene, decided to shift away from what they saw as the constraints of the basic style of hardcore and the escalating violence within the scene. They took their music in a more personal direction with a far greater sense of experimentation, bringing forth MacKaye's Embrace and Picciotto's Rites of Spring. The style of music developed by Embrace and Rites of Spring soon became its own sound. (Hüsker Dü's 1984 album Zen Arcade is often cited as a major influence for the new sound.) As a result of the renewed spirit of experimentation and musical innovation that developed the new scene, the summer of 1985 soon came to be known in the scene as "Revolution Summer".

Within a short time, the DC emo sound began to influence other bands such as Moss Icon, Nation of Ulysses, Dag Nasty, Shudder To Think, Fire Party, Marginal Man, and Gray Matter, many of which were released on MacKaye's Dischord Records. The original wave of DC emo finally ended in late 1994 with the collapse of Hoover.

Where the term emo actually originated is uncertain, but members of Rites of Spring mentioned in a 1985 interview in Flipside Magazine that some of their fans had started using the term to describe their music. By the early 90s, it was not uncommon for the early DC scene to be referred to as emo-core, though it's unclear when the term shifted.

As the DC scene expanded, other scenes began to develop with a similar sound. In San Diego in the early 1990s, Gravity Records released a number of records in the hardcore emo style. Bands of the period included Heroin, Indian Summer, Angel Hair, Antioch Arrow, Universal Order of Armageddon, Swing Kids, and Mohinder. At the same time, in the New York/New Jersey era, bands such as Native Nod, Merel, 1.6 Band, Rye Coalition and Rorschach were feeling the same impulse. Many of these bands were involved with the ABC No Rio club scene in New York, itself a response to the violence and stagnation in the scene and with the bands that played at CBGBs, the only other small venue for hardcore in New York at the time. Much of this wave of emo, particularly the San Diego scene, began to shift towards a more chaotic and aggressive form of emo, nicknamed screamo.

By and large, the more hardcore style of emo began to fade as many of the early era groups disbanded. Even still, a handful of modern bands continue to reflect emo's hardcore origins, including Circle Takes the Square, Hot Cross, City of Caterpillar, Funeral Diner, and A Day in Black and White.

Back in DC, following the disbanding of both Rites of Spring and Embrace, MacKaye and Picciotto decided to join forces in a new band, called Fugazi. While Fugazi itself was not categorized as emo, the music it created would soon influence the second major wave of emo.

Emo, and it's various incarnations, is very good underground music if you're a fan of raw, aggressive, fast-paced music with introspective lyrics. Emo is NOT bad music! Generally, if you're a fan of punk rock, hardcore, indie, or even grindcore or metal, you'll probably like emo/screamo.

Today, the words "emo" and "screamo" are often (incorrectly) used on bands like Dashboard Confessional, Senses Fail, My Chemical Romance, Atreyu, the Used, and Bright Eyes. (Bright Eyes, has nothing to do with emo, they're a folk-indie rock band.) The other bands, however, are nothing more than pop music or mallcore (which is pop music itself in a more "br00tal" form). The labels "emo" and "screamo" are slapped onto almost every teeny-bopper pop band with "angst-ridden" lyrics and members that are "so HAWT LOLZ" by the three M's: the Music industry, the Media, and MTV. They all have the same basic formula and sound with a couple different variations. Most of these bands have nothing to do with hardcore, punk, or emo music at all. Also, emo is used to describe a lot of a "depressed" kids that cut. These kids aren't emo, they're just retarded attention-whores for the most part. If you want to insult someone who claims to be "emo", the most appropriate names for these corporate cock-sucking zombies, are "scenesters" or "scene kids".

List of True Emo Bands
Rites of Spring
Embrace (US band, not the UK brit-pop band)
Gray Matter
Ignition
Dag Nasty
Monsula
Fugazi
Fuel
Samiam
Jawbreaker
Hot Water Music
Elliot
Friction
Soulside
Lifetime
Split Lip(same band as Chamberlain)
Chamberlain(same band as Split Lip)
Kerosene 454
Moss Icon
The Hated
Silver Bearings
Native Nod
Merel
Hoover
Current
Indian Summer
Evergreen
Navio Forge
Still Life
Shotmaker
Policy of 3
Clikatat Ikatowi
Maximillian Colby
Noneleftstanding
Embassy
Ordination of Aaron
Floodgate
Four Hundred Years
Frail
Lincoln
Julia
Shroomunion
Unwound
Heroin
Antioch Arrow
Mohinder
Honeywell
Reach Out
Portaits of Past
Assfactor 4
Second Story Window
End of the Line
Angel Hair
Swing Kids
Three Studies for a Crucifixion
John Henry West
Guyver-1
Palatka
Coleman
Iconoclast
Sunny Day Real Estate
Christie Front Drive
Promise Ring
Mineral
Boys Life
Sideshow
Get-Up Kids
Braid
Cap'n Jazz
Funeral Diner
Circle Takes The Square
A Day in Black and White
A Trillion Barnacle Lapse
Air Conditioning
Amanda Woodward
Breather Resist
Coliseum
Envy
Gospel
Hot Cross
Kaospilot
Lack
Melt Banana
Mikoto
Newgenics
North of America
Off Minor
Gun Metal Gray
Saetia
I Hate Myself
I Would Set Myself On Fire For You
City Of Caterpillar
The Kodan Armada
Raein

NOT Emo:
All-American Rejects
As I Lay Dying
Atreyu
Avril Lavigne
Billy Talent(What talent?)
Blink 182
Bowling For Soup
Brand New
Busted
Coheed & Cambria
Dashboard Confessional
Early November
Emery
Fall Out Boy
Finch
From Autumn to Ashes
From First to Last
Green Day
Good Charlotte
Hawthorne Heights
Haste the Day
Linkin Park
Matchbox Romance
My American Heart
My Chemical Romance
New Found Glory
Rufio
Saves the Day
Senses Fail
Silverstein
Simple Plan
Something Corporate
Starting Line
Story of the Year
Sugarcult
Sum 41
Taking Back Sunday
Thursday
UnderOath
Used
Yellowcard
Test Icicles
AFI



..and just so I stay on topic:
The stuff people call "emo" nowadays sucks, but real emo is alright.

[bananapants]

List of True Emo Bands
Rites of Spring
Embrace (US band, not the UK brit-pop band)
Gray Matter
Ignition
Dag Nasty
Monsula
Fugazi
Fuel
Samiam
Jawbreaker
Hot Water Music
Elliot
Friction
Soulside
Lifetime
Split Lip(same band as Chamberlain)
Chamberlain(same band as Split Lip)
Kerosene 454
Moss Icon
The Hated
Silver Bearings
Native Nod
Merel
Hoover
Current
Indian Summer
Evergreen
Navio Forge
Still Life
Shotmaker
Policy of 3
Clikatat Ikatowi
Maximillian Colby
Noneleftstanding
Embassy
Ordination of Aaron
Floodgate
Four Hundred Years
Frail
Lincoln
Julia
Shroomunion
Unwound
Heroin
Antioch Arrow
Mohinder
Honeywell
Reach Out
Portaits of Past
Assfactor 4
Second Story Window
End of the Line
Angel Hair
Swing Kids
Three Studies for a Crucifixion
John Henry West
Guyver-1
Palatka
Coleman
Iconoclast
Sunny Day Real Estate
Christie Front Drive
Promise Ring
Mineral
Boys Life
Sideshow
Get-Up Kids
Braid
Cap'n Jazz
Funeral Diner
Circle Takes The Square
A Day in Black and White
A Trillion Barnacle Lapse
Air Conditioning
Amanda Woodward
Breather Resist
Coliseum
Envy
Gospel
Hot Cross
Kaospilot
Lack
Melt Banana
Mikoto
Newgenics
North of America
Off Minor
Gun Metal Gray
Saetia
I Hate Myself
I Would Set Myself On Fire For You
City Of Caterpillar
The Kodan Armada
Raein

agreed

[akjsd]

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[*januaryrain*]

well i like SOME of the crap that they call 'emo' these days. it's not too bad, in my ears

[Jorge]

LOLOL. YELLOWCARD EMO? LOLOL.

That was the stupidest post ever. Emo is what you make it. I don't like labels.

[*My Cinderella.*]

I've never heard of those bands, but I don't hate or like emo. It's alright, it's just not the type of music for my tastes.

[*Statistik*]

Is alkaline trio emo? I hate their music. I don't even listen to rock music that much, but "emo" is one of my least favorite "type" of rock music. I just enjoy alternative rock. No metal-punk poser bullshit...

[Jorge]

Go debate in the Rap topic and defend yourself. >:o

[*januaryrain*]

it says that yellowcard ISN'T emo

[Jorge]

And I was saying that it is. :)

[*januaryrain*]

oh.. tahaa.
well my definition of emo is in total contrast with what was posted above so I'm not gonna say anything.
but with my definition, yeah Yellowcard is emo, along with Dashboard & the Early November.

[Jorge]

Iunno. If people ask me if I listen to Emo music, I say I only listen to the music I listen to. Whatever catches my ear.

[*januaryrain*]

well said

[Chii]

I have a hard time telling people what kind of music I listen to because there isn't really a specific genre...

I listen to everything and the problem is I don't know what the hell genre it is even in. When I was being anal with my iPod, I had to look up each artist in wikipedia to find out what genre they were. I suck at labels because there are so many. The genres I got were: Pop/Rock, Alternative Rock, Metalcore, Indie/Alternative, Electronic Dance, Hard Rock, Classic Hard Rock, Melodic Death Metal, European Pop, Synth Pop/Dance-Punk Rock, Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, Piano Rock, among many others.

Oh well, at least I see new music to download. I'll get back to you when I listen to some of them =]

[sillakilla220]

Go debate in the Rap topic and defend yourself. >:o

f**k that im not gonna go into the rap thread and get ganged up on by a bunch of idiots who don't even know or prolly even respect the genre.... f**k emo, there would never be as much press on an emo band-member gettin shot and killed like there are rappers, as much as ppl say rap sucks rap sells right now and your favorite artist is prolly influenced sumhow by hip hop

[*januaryrain*]

f**k that im not gonna go into the rap thread and get ganged up on by a bunch of idiots who don't even know or prolly even respect the genre.... f**k emo, there would never be as much press on an emo band-member gettin shot and killed like there are rappers, as much as ppl say rap sucks rap sells right now and your favorite artist is prolly influenced sumhow by hip hop

calm down.
& the reason why you don't see 'emo' band members getting shot is because they aren't out in the streets starting sh*t, or are in any way gang related. yes?

[*mipadi*]

Not all emo is bad. Some of the original stuff is pretty good. Like any genre, emo has grown since its inception to include many different styles, some better than others. The little emo I listen to is from the very early stuff; I don't listen to anything new.

Incidentally, I wrote an essay about emo and posted it in the Writing forum a while back. I'm going to link it, because I'm a shameless self-promoter like that.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=96337

[*I Shot JFK*]

i liked michael's emo essay, i remember it...

sigh. i like whatever, really. and who has EVER called busted emo? really? as if.

[*Zatanna*]

To Emo or not to Emo? That is the question.

I don't like or hate *all* emo. I'm really indifferent as I don't like *all* rock, I don't like *all* techno, I don't like *all* indie, etc...

I just don't quite understand why these things have to be regarded in such absolute terms.

[*I Shot JFK*]

no, i agree with rebecca. i lke bands individually... i like something at least from almost all genres...

it does irritate me slightly that i shall be labeled emo or scene when i go to school tomorrow with my black hair

[QUELZ]

well i am a fan of From First To Last And My American Heart so i guess im in to that junk

[*januaryrain*]

emo shmemo

[*Statues/Shadows*]

I love Michael.

(and that's at least somewhat relevant to the topic, I swear)

[x__rilind]

Emo itself is such a fickle thing...

but yes. i quite enjoy many bands that are emo, whether they say they are, other people say they are, i say they are, or somebody else says they're not.

>rilind