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 Mar 15 2006, 11:05 AM
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Alright, the purpose of this thread is to discuss the theological Problem of Free Will. So, under common christian theolgy, God is described as being all-knowing (omniscient) and all powerful (omnipotent). Men are also described as having free will. This is at the heart of the reality of theological fatalism. Solving this issue is vital to christian theology as it becomes an inherent contradiction as well as threatening to the christian conception of salvation and damnation.
I hold that God's infallible foreknowledge makes impossible man's free will. If god knows the future, how can we choose our own path? Discuss. |
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Acid Bath Slayer The Problem of Free Will Mar 15 2006, 11:05 AM
ermfermoo Lets do it simply. I might have to butcher grammar... Mar 14 2007, 07:17 PM
Heath21 QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Mar 14 2007, 5:17 PM) L... Mar 14 2007, 08:04 PM Arjuna Capulong And I thought my story was simple.
Looks good Ari... Mar 14 2007, 07:23 PM ermfermoo Did you completely ignore my argument, which took ... Mar 14 2007, 08:03 PM Heath21 QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Mar 14 2007, 6:03 PM) D... Mar 14 2007, 08:08 PM Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 9:08 PM) Clo... Mar 14 2007, 08:16 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 14 2007, 6:16... Mar 14 2007, 08:31 PM Ma Ass is WOW QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 5:29 PM) I n... Mar 14 2007, 08:31 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Ma Ass is WOW @ Mar 14 2007, 6:31 P... Mar 14 2007, 08:34 PM Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 9:31 PM) I n... Mar 14 2007, 08:36 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 2:08 AM) Yes... Mar 14 2007, 08:32 PM Arjuna Capulong And this is when religion makes people so closed-m... Mar 14 2007, 08:05 PM ermfermoo We'd be open minded too if you made some valid... Mar 14 2007, 08:09 PM Heath21 QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Mar 14 2007, 6:09 PM) W... Mar 14 2007, 08:13 PM ermfermoo Thats exactly what it is. And if God chooses what ... Mar 14 2007, 08:15 PM Heath21 QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Mar 14 2007, 6:15 PM) T... Mar 14 2007, 08:27 PM ermfermoo For f**k's sake, he chooses because he picks w... Mar 14 2007, 08:29 PM Ma Ass is WOW we are talking about it cause you keep bringing it... Mar 14 2007, 08:35 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Ma Ass is WOW @ Mar 14 2007, 6:35 P... Mar 14 2007, 08:40 PM Ma Ass is WOW QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 5:40 PM) Act... Mar 14 2007, 08:53 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Ma Ass is WOW @ Mar 14 2007, 6:53 P... Mar 14 2007, 08:59 PM Ma Ass is WOW QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 5:59 PM) If ... Mar 14 2007, 09:01 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Ma Ass is WOW @ Mar 14 2007, 7:01 P... Mar 14 2007, 09:04 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 8:04 PM) 2. ... Mar 14 2007, 10:05 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Mar 14 2007, 8:0... Mar 14 2007, 10:13 PM I Viddy Horrorshow QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 3:13 AM) I a... Mar 15 2007, 11:13 AM ermfermoo You. Are. So. Stupid.
I don't even care about... Mar 14 2007, 08:37 PM JakeKKing Haha, I actually brought this question up cause we... Mar 14 2007, 08:38 PM Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 14 2007, 9:38 PM) H... Mar 14 2007, 08:47 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 2:38 AM) H... Mar 14 2007, 09:02 PM ermfermoo You can't right the right. Keep your prayers.
... Mar 14 2007, 08:42 PM Heath21 QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Mar 14 2007, 6:42 PM) Y... Mar 14 2007, 08:46 PM Jessica C. Good debate! I agree with you Heath21 in this ... Mar 15 2007, 04:52 AM JakeKKing QUOTE(Jessica C. @ Mar 15 2007, 5:52 AM) ... Mar 15 2007, 05:35 AM Heath21 QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 3:35 AM) O... Mar 15 2007, 04:00 PM JakeKKing QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 5:00 PM) How... Mar 15 2007, 06:25 PM Heath21 QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 4:25 PM) S... Mar 15 2007, 09:03 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 16 2007, 3:03 AM) I d... Mar 15 2007, 09:07 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Mar 15 2007, 7:07 PM) Ev... Mar 15 2007, 09:13 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 16 2007, 3:13 AM) Yes... Mar 16 2007, 05:09 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Mar 16 2007, 3:09 PM) Th... Mar 16 2007, 05:22 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 16 2007, 11:22 PM) No... Mar 16 2007, 08:21 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 16 2007, 11:22 PM) No... Mar 17 2007, 09:05 AM JakeKKing QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 10:03 PM) I ... Mar 15 2007, 10:58 PM Heath21 QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 8:58 PM) H... Mar 15 2007, 11:11 PM JakeKKing QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 16 2007, 12:11 AM) I ... Mar 15 2007, 11:30 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 10:00 PM) If... Mar 15 2007, 06:28 PM JakeKKing QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Mar 15 2007, 7:28 PM) Bo... Mar 15 2007, 06:31 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 16 2007, 12:31 AM) ... Mar 15 2007, 06:35 PM Jessica C. QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 2:35 AM) O... Mar 16 2007, 07:13 AM JakeKKing QUOTE(Jessica C. @ Mar 16 2007, 8:13 AM) ... Mar 16 2007, 12:05 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Jessica C. @ Mar 15 2007, 10:52 AM)... Mar 15 2007, 03:17 PM Uronacid Jessica C. said this:
QUOTEJesus, who is God, gave... Mar 16 2007, 01:00 AM JakeKKing QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 16 2007, 2:00 AM) Je... Mar 16 2007, 01:01 AM Uronacid QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 16 2007, 1:01 AM) I... Mar 16 2007, 01:04 AM Heath21 QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 15 2007, 11:00 PM) J... Mar 16 2007, 01:17 AM Jessica C. QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 15 2007, 10:00 PM) J... Mar 16 2007, 07:24 AM Uronacid QUOTE(Jessica C. @ Mar 16 2007, 7:24 AM) ... Mar 16 2007, 10:39 AM JakeKKing That really doesn't make sense to me.
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The purpose is... Mar 17 2007, 04:05 PM Heath21 QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 17 2007, 2... Mar 17 2007, 04:25 PM  |
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