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 Mar 15 2006, 11:05 AM
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Alright, the purpose of this thread is to discuss the theological Problem of Free Will. So, under common christian theolgy, God is described as being all-knowing (omniscient) and all powerful (omnipotent). Men are also described as having free will. This is at the heart of the reality of theological fatalism. Solving this issue is vital to christian theology as it becomes an inherent contradiction as well as threatening to the christian conception of salvation and damnation.
I hold that God's infallible foreknowledge makes impossible man's free will. If god knows the future, how can we choose our own path? Discuss. |
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Acid Bath Slayer The Problem of Free Will Mar 15 2006, 11:05 AM
Uronacid Alright, the fact that God knows everything doesn... Aug 17 2006, 08:11 AM
oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 17 2006, 9:11 AM) Al... Aug 17 2006, 09:42 AM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo @ Aug 17 2006, 9... Mar 4 2007, 02:55 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 17 2006, 8:11 AM) Al... Aug 17 2006, 03:13 PM starlette Whos to say God knows the outcome. How bout he kn... Aug 17 2006, 09:56 AM Spirited Away QUOTE(starlette @ Aug 17 2006, 9:56 AM) W... Aug 17 2006, 01:17 PM kryogenix Haven't been here in a LONG time.
Arguement f... Aug 22 2006, 02:13 PM disco infiltrator QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 22 2006, 2:13 PM) H... Aug 29 2006, 08:40 PM sadolakced acid you have outlined the illusion of free will.
just... Aug 22 2006, 05:06 PM kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 22 2006, 6:06... Aug 22 2006, 05:43 PM sadolakced acid well, i picked something more extreme to outline i... Aug 22 2006, 08:30 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 22 2006, 2:13 PM) I... Aug 30 2006, 03:59 PM happykmd QUOTEJustin makes a good point. If all non-believe... Sep 7 2006, 08:31 PM Tamacracker Every little move we make, has already been known ... Sep 8 2006, 09:13 PM I Shot JFK ^ riveting.
however, he is omniscient, and theref... Sep 9 2006, 10:27 AM Tamacracker That makes no complete sense... that's exactly... Sep 9 2006, 03:44 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 9 2006, 3:44 PM) ... Sep 10 2006, 01:40 PM I Shot JFK This has nothing to do with atheism. you dont have... Sep 9 2006, 04:11 PM Tamacracker You do have options... God knows all your options,... Sep 10 2006, 04:33 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 10 2006, 4:33 PM)... Sep 10 2006, 06:38 PM I Shot JFK there is a difference between not understanding so... Sep 10 2006, 04:44 PM Tamacracker 3 results for: omniscience
View results from: Dic... Sep 10 2006, 05:07 PM Tamacracker I have read your first post, you're just not u... Sep 10 2006, 11:27 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 10 2006, 11:27 PM... Sep 11 2006, 10:56 AM I Shot JFK Argument Ad Natum
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Pwnage. Sep 11 2006, 01:07 PM Tamacracker HOnestly there was no ownage... just ignorance, no... Sep 13 2006, 12:15 AM Angelina Taylor QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 13 2006, 1:15 AM)... Sep 13 2006, 09:04 AM I Shot JFK QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 13 2006, 6:15 AM)... Sep 13 2006, 12:16 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 13 2006, 12:15 AM... Sep 13 2006, 01:24 PM Born in a burial gown QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Sep 13 2006, 4:04... Sep 13 2006, 12:24 PM Tamacracker THe first thought to that riddle is... the missile... Sep 13 2006, 02:22 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 13 2006, 2:22 PM)... Sep 13 2006, 02:54 PM Tamacracker Well then you'd have to look into the science ... Sep 13 2006, 03:05 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 13 2006, 3:05 PM)... Sep 13 2006, 03:13 PM Tamacracker I'm sorry, I'm not seeing your logic. Free... Sep 13 2006, 03:29 PM I Shot JFK QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 13 2006, 9:29 PM)... Sep 13 2006, 03:53 PM disco infiltrator You're really not getting it. Omniscience isn... Sep 13 2006, 03:39 PM Spirited Away Ah, haha, this is really hilarious. Remember Sikdr... Sep 13 2006, 05:06 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Sep 13 2006, 3:29 PM)... Sep 13 2006, 05:31 PM Born in a burial gown Fae, I'm having the greatest time ever. I... Sep 14 2006, 11:31 AM kryogenix Haven't been here in a long time again.
Flaw:... Nov 7 2006, 03:02 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 7 2006, 2:02 PM) Ha... Nov 7 2006, 05:07 PM kryogenix QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Nov 7 2006, 5:07... Nov 7 2006, 07:51 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 7 2006, 6:51 PM) Ha... Nov 7 2006, 08:11 PM kryogenix QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Nov 7 2006, 8:11... Feb 11 2007, 12:42 AM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 10 2007, 11:42 PM) ... Feb 11 2007, 04:09 PM SixChamberedHeart Free will is completely incompatible with the idea... Dec 23 2006, 12:24 PM mzislandpinay God knoes ur destiny. & you choose ur path.
... Dec 27 2006, 07:33 AM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(mzislandpinay @ Dec 27 2006, 6:33 A... Feb 10 2007, 02:49 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Feb 10 2007, 11... Feb 10 2007, 03:29 PM kryogenix Changing could to would seems like something insig... Feb 13 2007, 08:07 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 13 2007, 7:07 PM) C... Feb 13 2007, 08:17 PM oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Feb 13 2007, 8:1... Feb 17 2007, 01:24 PM JakeKKing QUOTE(oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo @ Feb 17 2007, 1... Feb 22 2007, 04:24 AM Unrequitted lover Hmmm.... But i thought that the christian logic (a... Feb 21 2007, 11:23 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Unrequitted lover @ Feb 21 2007, 8... Mar 10 2007, 03:26 AM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 10 2007, 2:26 AM) How... Mar 10 2007, 08:08 AM Heath21 QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Mar 10 2007, 5:0... Mar 10 2007, 10:24 AM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 10 2007, 9:24 AM) Tha... Mar 10 2007, 04:29 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Mar 10 2007, 2:2... Mar 12 2007, 02:31 PM I Viddy Horrorshow QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 10 2007, 3:24 PM) Tha... Mar 10 2007, 06:00 PM Stuckie Do the people that say free will contradicts God... Mar 4 2007, 03:49 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Stuckie @ Mar 4 2007, 2:49 PM) Do t... Mar 5 2007, 02:43 AM JakeKKing QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Mar 5 2007, 2:43... Mar 5 2007, 04:00 AM Stuckie QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Mar 5 2007, 1:43... Mar 5 2007, 06:19 AM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Stuckie @ Mar 5 2007, 12:19 PM) The... Mar 5 2007, 08:11 AM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Stuckie @ Mar 5 2007, 5:19 AM) How ... Mar 5 2007, 04:13 PM I Viddy Horrorshow ^ the difference is, God cannot be wrong. Therefor... Mar 12 2007, 04:35 PM Heath21 QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 12 2007, 2... Mar 12 2007, 05:13 PM Acid Bath Slayer Heath21, to have free will do we not need options? Mar 12 2007, 05:23 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Mar 12 2007, 3:2... Mar 12 2007, 10:03 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 12 2007, 9:03 PM) Yes... Mar 13 2007, 08:20 PM silly ol' man I still don't get how foreknowledge precludes ... Mar 12 2007, 11:24 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(silly ol' man @ Mar 13 2007, 5... Mar 13 2007, 03:30 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Mar 13 2007, 1:30 PM) If... Mar 13 2007, 03:38 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 13 2007, 9:38 PM) His... Mar 13 2007, 04:25 PM I Viddy Horrorshow Heath, 1st of all, stop double posting, this isn... Mar 13 2007, 12:19 PM Heath21 QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 13 2007, 10... Mar 13 2007, 03:00 PM JakeKKing So, explain it to me. I'm dumb and need everyt... Mar 13 2007, 01:17 PM I Viddy Horrorshow Or, indulge yourself, and READ.
There is supposed... Mar 13 2007, 01:49 PM I Viddy Horrorshow ^ Yes. HE KNOWS YOUR DECISION.
HE CANNOT BE WRONG... Mar 13 2007, 04:10 PM Heath21 QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 13 2007, 2... Mar 13 2007, 07:45 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 1:45 AM) Tha... Mar 13 2007, 08:27 PM Arjuna Capulong Heath21, let's say John went to a psychic and ... Mar 13 2007, 08:01 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 13 2007, 6:01... Mar 13 2007, 10:46 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 4:46 AM) I g... Mar 14 2007, 02:10 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Mar 14 2007, 12:10 PM) H... Mar 14 2007, 02:33 PM Kurd Jam QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 8:33 PM) It ... Mar 14 2007, 04:05 PM Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 13 2007, 11:46 PM) Ok... Mar 14 2007, 03:30 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 14 2007, 1:30... Mar 14 2007, 03:35 PM Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 4:35 PM) I s... Mar 14 2007, 03:56 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 14 2007, 1:56... Mar 14 2007, 04:10 PM I Viddy Horrorshow QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 8:35 PM) I s... Mar 14 2007, 05:31 PM Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 14 2007, 6... Mar 14 2007, 07:02 PM ermfermoo Free will is simply an illusion. It is in our gene... Mar 13 2007, 09:37 PM Arjuna Capulong Oh, I very well understand your concept of God and... Mar 14 2007, 04:25 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 14 2007, 2:25... Mar 14 2007, 06:52 PM Kurd Jam QUOTESo therefore your story is false because God ... Mar 14 2007, 07:15 PM  |
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