Does bush suck? Options

[onenonly101]

He did not solely decide to go to war. Congress has to vote on it. If they didn't approve we wouldn't be there right now. And if you are a resident in another country you shouldn't be doing anything illegal because you will be sent back to your country. And Bush didn't make that up

[WildGriffin]

He did not solely decide to go to war. Congress has to vote on it.

He did have the power to get the whole nation behind it and lie about WMDs and confuse/distort to make people associate Saddam with 9/11. Congress represents the nation. Therefore, Bush did solely decide to goto war.

[onenonly101]

No, also do you actually think it was Bush's idea?? They have been planning to tear down Saddam and his regime.

"U.S. Congress passes the Iraq Liberation Act, calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime [and urging] 'the United Nations to establish an international criminal tribunal for the purpose of indicting, prosecuting, and imprisoning Saddam Hussein and other Iraqi officials who are responsible for crimes against humanity, genocide, and other criminal violations of international law."

He didn't associate him with 9/11. He said he wanted to take out all terrorist groups, not only the ones that committed acts against the US when 9/11 occurred

[*kryogenix*]

Saddam was being an asshat and not allowing access to UN inspectors, it was a different scenario this time around. They had unrestricted access to everywhere, even Saddam's palaces for like 2 months before the war was declared by Bush.

From Article:
"In a televised address, Clinton accused Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein of failing to live up to his commitment to allow unrestricted access to U.N. weapons inspectors."

so, do you not take into consideration that he disposed of his WMD's in that time period?

personally dont like Bush cuz my mom told me soemthing like if ur an resident, and ur caught driving drunk, ur gonna get sent back to ur other country...i think thats not fair...

and he shouldve never decided to go to war...

and this is why kids shouldn't be allowed to vote. they can't spell and they easily adopt their parents ideas, even though they may be confused.

[onenonly101]

He did have the power to get the whole nation behind it and lie about WMDs

Iraq did have WMD they might not have found them now because they disposed of it or hid it prior to U.S. arriving there. see http://www.usiraqprocon.org/bin/procon/pro...4000933#chemwmd

and

http://www.usiraqprocon.org/bin/procon/pro...4000933#whoused

[xscore]

so, do you not take into consideration that he disposed of his WMD's in that time period?




and this is why kids shouldn't be allowed to vote. they can't spell and they easily adopt their parents ideas, even though they may be confused.

are u saying my moms wrong? if u are, then sorry, but u got things a little mixed up...my parents are ALWAYS RIGHT...

[WildGriffin]

so, do you not take into consideration that he disposed of his WMD's in that time period?

Then we had nothing to worry about

Iraq did have WMD they might not have found them now because they disposed of it or hid it prior to U.S. arriving there. see http://www.usiraqprocon.org/bin/procon/pro...4000933#chemwmd

and

http://www.usiraqprocon.org/bin/procon/pro...4000933#whoused

If you're gonna post links, tell me what im looking for. That site has a fair amount of USA bashing from the skim through i did. Take the time to copy/paste your facts, don't send me on random site scavenger hunts in search of facts that may support your position. That's just lazy.

He didn't associate him with 9/11. He said he wanted to take out all terrorist groups, not only the ones that committed acts against the US when 9/11 occurred

By calling Saddam and company a WMD weilding terrorist regieme, he did associate 9/11 with Saddam. Post-9/11 was perfect timing for a president that wanted to push his country into war on shifty terms.

No, also do you actually think it was Bush's idea?? They have been planning to tear down Saddam and his regime.

They had been planning to when Saddam was denying access. After he did allowed access, we never did enact that "Iraq Liberation Act", nor would we have unless the president lied about WMDs and associated Saddam with terrorists.

[*kryogenix*]

are u saying my moms wrong? if u are, then sorry, but u got things a little mixed up...my parents are ALWAYS RIGHT...

no, i'm saying i can't comprehend what you're saying because you're proabably misinterpreting what your mom said. and you make spelling errors to cap it off.

Then we had nothing to worry about

my bad. i was hurrying so i could play gunbound i meant hiding the weapons and converting weapons plants into normal factories.

[WildGriffin]

my bad. i was hurrying so i could play gunbound  i meant hiding the weapons and converting weapons plants into normal factories.

I just got into that and I can sympathize with the woes of scurrying off to gunbound before making complete arguments i'd like to go a couple rounds with people from createblog in gunbound...anyone game?

[strice]

ok we're losing focus! we're talking about spelling errors and crappy korean games.

[WildGriffin]

ok we're losing focus! we're talking about spelling errors and crappy korean games.

It's hard to keep debating when you've already dumped all your argueing points and lost intrest a couple days ago.

[juliar]

i personally dont like Bush cuz my mom told me soemthing like if ur an resident, and ur caught driving drunk, ur gonna get sent back to ur other country...i think thats not fair...

and he shouldve never decided to go to war...

He shouldnt have gone to war? So you're saying that Saddam should be left alone in Iraq, with unsearched area which could have WMDs and biological weapons, don't take a necessary precaution?

[casssy]

http://photomatt.net/archives/2004/04/07/mosaic/

[*kryogenix*]

http://photomatt.net/archives/2004/04/07/mosaic/

ok, let's give up the war effort because some guy made a mosaic using the images of dead soldiers to create the likeness of george w bush! <-Sarcasm

[WildGriffin]

it's titled as a "moving image". it doesn't move me one bit. but nice link liquidbluac1d, way to keep your eyes open for cool nik-nacks

[*krnxswat*]

are u saying my moms wrong? if u are, then sorry, but u got things a little mixed up...my parents are ALWAYS RIGHT...

Haha, my apologies but that made me laugh.

[casssy]

ok, let's give up the war effort because some guy made a mosaic using the images of dead soldiers to create the likeness of george w bush! <-Sarcasm

lol.. I was just showing it.. jeez

[m@dcow]

the needs of many people are falling on deaf ears... or shall i say small elfy ones... anyway... tax cuts?... bush's famous for it... it's basically not helping anyone but the rich... gay marriges?... at a time when you're at war?... i think not... and for god sakes DEBT? and sending space crafts to mars, and trying to rebuild a country that we have destroyed... okay... now lets move on to the possives...

anyone?

[strice]

ok, let's give up the war effort because some guy made a mosaic using the images of dead soldiers to create the likeness of george w bush! <-Sarcasm

jesus, kryo is one hell of a dick.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

jesus, kryo is one hell of a dick.

Watche your language, no member bashing

[strice]

i think it was warranted.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

i think it was warranted.

would you like to debate on that? lol

[*Kathleen*]

now lets move on to the possives...

anyone?

Did you forget about a little event called September eleventh?

[*kryogenix*]

lol.. I was just showing it.. jeez

heh, i was kidding cassie. don't take any offense.

we can still be friends :flower:

[m@dcow]

Did you forget about a little event called September eleventh?

that must have sliped my mind when i was thinking about that bald spot...