Death Penalty, is it right or wrong? |
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 Jul 21 2004, 01:29 AM
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Brie  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 10,172 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,548  |
NO!!!!!
I'm AGAINST it. My reasons:: If j00 kill someone for t3h crime t3hy did, j00 are just becoming t3h bully back. It's like as if a bully steals j00r lunch money, and t3hn j00 punch t3hm or something like that. I don't believe in taking another life.. no matter how many murders t3hy commited. (sp?) Uhh.. and I'm too tired to remember t3h rest. |
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Jul 21 2004, 04:46 AM
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watch out for jellyfish. Group: Member Posts: 174 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 31,672 |
NO there definately shouldnt be
nobody deserves to die. be given a serious punishment yes, but nobody deserves to die, even if that man has killed others. 
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Jul 21 2004, 07:20 AM
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Brie Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 10,172 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,548 |
QUOTE(lilconfusedbabiix3 @ Jul 21 2004, 4:46 AM) NO there definately shouldnt be nobody deserves to die. be given a serious punishment yes, but nobody deserves to die, even if that man has killed others. Exactly. |
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Jul 21 2004, 12:46 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
^^ So even if this killer has a background of murdering your family, raping a pregnant woman and killed her husband, raping a 10 year old child, you guys still think he deserves to live?
 You guys are saints.
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Jul 21 2004, 02:51 PM
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Stacy Group: Member Posts: 220 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,199 |
I used to think that death penalty is right... but then what about those innocent people who get sentenced? I mean, a lot of people are sentenced for a crime they didn't commit. It's not fair, right?
So I don't really know... I'm still thinking over it. Although... I gotta admit that some people DO deserve to die. |
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Jul 21 2004, 08:52 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
saints? i would think not. saints do not let murderers live to kill (possibley) another day.
QUOTE My reasons:: If j00 kill someone for t3h crime t3hy did, j00 are just becoming t3h bully back. It's like as if a bully steals j00r lunch money, and t3hn j00 punch t3hm or something like that. I don't believe in taking another life.. no matter how many murders t3hy commited. (sp?) Uhh.. and I'm too tired to remember t3h rest. spell correctly, please. if 'j00' can spell correctly, 'th3n' 'joo' should spell correctly. |
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Jul 22 2004, 08:53 AM
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 i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
for it as i stated before.
just punishment less tax dollars being spent on inmates cable,food,clothes, and all the expenses for keeping them there. it is their own fault that they are being put to death, they shouldn't have killed anyone. The decision was up to them and they obviously went the wrong way |
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Jul 22 2004, 09:14 AM
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 BiGdRaGoN31 Group: Member Posts: 463 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 2,585 |
i think its right,if u kill someone, u deserve to be killed
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Jul 23 2004, 01:07 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
QUOTE i think its right,if u kill someone, u deserve to be killed Even accidentally? QUOTE saints? i would think not. saints do not let murderers live to kill (possibley) another day Realli? I thought Saints were merciful.. *shrug* I'm not religious as you can tell. QUOTE I used to think that death penalty is right... but then what about those innocent people who get sentenced? I mean, a lot of people are sentenced for a crime they didn't commit. It's not fair, right? So I don't really know... I'm still thinking over it. Although... I gotta admit that some people DO deserve to die. Yeah.. too bad there's no foolproof way of determining things.. |
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Jul 25 2004, 03:32 PM
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 barcode# 2 672000 143483 Group: Member Posts: 8 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 32,927 |
QUOTE(shawty_redd @ May 13 2004, 8:08 AM) i dont really know..i live in Canada and there is no death penalty..but i had to write an essay about it and i said it's wrong cause isn't one of the commandments u shall not kill?? Ever heard of the Old Testament? |
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Jul 25 2004, 07:14 PM
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Against it.
If we kill those who are killers then arn't those that do the injecting killers themsleves??? |
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Jul 25 2004, 11:28 PM
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 usually sleep deprived..zzZZzz Group: Member Posts: 55 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,378 |
no...two wrongs don't make a right..one life is killed..and another one is killed as punishment...yes the murderer deserved to be murdered..but if you guys google this news story up (i don't remember my teacher told me) a man was held in jail for about 20 years of his life on account of murder...and it was proven a year or so ago (can't really remember) taht forensic science has shown that he was INNOCENT! if we had been so hasty to kill as soon as we convict someone...we are bound to make mistakes and kill innocent lives...we are bound to have errors that are not even worth making
but that's just my opinion..i don't believe we should have death penalties...it's not right |
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Jul 27 2004, 01:25 PM
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i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
[quote]i dont really know..i live in Canada and there is no death penalty..but i had to write an essay about it and i said it's wrong cause isn't one of the commandments u shall not kill?? [.quote]
Thous Shalt not murder.Murder is the UNlawful killing of somone one. Killing is not unlawful |
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Jul 27 2004, 03:38 PM
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 Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
Well we often refer to the Holocaust as the Murder of 6 million Jews, even though it was 100% legal, am I not mistaken?
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Jul 27 2004, 05:44 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(sunni_banana @ Jul 25 2004, 11:28 PM) no...two wrongs don't make a right..one life is killed..and another one is killed as punishment...yes the murderer deserved to be murdered..but if you guys google this news story up (i don't remember my teacher told me) a man was held in jail for about 20 years of his life on account of murder...and it was proven a year or so ago (can't really remember) taht forensic science has shown that he was INNOCENT! if we had been so hasty to kill as soon as we convict someone...we are bound to make mistakes and kill innocent lives...we are bound to have errors that are not even worth making That's why the death penalty is costly, because it takes years and a lot of money to prove a man innocent and/or get him out of jail. The death penalty IS NOT quick! It can takes years/decades as that man witness for himself. Had he been sentenced to life in prison instead of the death penalty, he would still have wasted 20 years of his life. I would totally be against the death penalty if the system is so quick to put any man/woman 6ft under without further proof. Two wrongs do not make a right, but have you consider that one killer can kill more than one person? Would you consider giving serial killers, who killed and raped many people, to be living and watching cable TV? Sure, they do get put to work and they do get treated like dogs, but is that enough to give back to the lives that were brutally lost, and to the people whose lives were traumatized by these killers' selfish and evil intentions? |
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Jul 31 2004, 12:26 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
oh, and i suppose all you people against the death penalty have a greate alternative that will also serve as a detterant.
most people fear for their life. death is a great threat to get them to be good. |
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Jul 31 2004, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE most people fear for their life. death is a great threat to get them to be good. That's a point I brought up in one of my posts way back when. Heh. 
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Aug 1 2004, 10:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
QUOTE That's a point I brought up in one of my posts way back when. Heh. I remember that.. I think I was arguing for the other side way back then...  But then.. what of those psychotics who don't fear death.. those are the truly dangerous ones yet cannot necessarily help it and may get off on an insanity plea.. Blah.. I dunno what I'm talking about
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Aug 1 2004, 10:47 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Aug 1 2004, 10:43 PM) I remember that.. I think I was arguing for the other side way back then... But then.. what of those psychotics who don't fear death.. those are the truly dangerous ones yet cannot necessarily help it and may get off on an insanity plea.. Blah.. I dunno what I'm talking about No, no, that's a valid point... There are cases in the past where serial killers plead insanity. But I thought that they don't just "get off" because if psychologists say that they're okay then they'd have to get back to prison/death penalty? I haven't looked into this much either. |
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Aug 1 2004, 10:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
QUOTE No, no, that's a valid point... There are cases in the past where serial killers plead insanity. But I thought that they don't just "get off" because if psychologists say that they're okay then they'd have to get back to prison/death penalty? I haven't looked into this much either. They don't "get off"; they just don't get the death penalty.. I think they're either admitted to a mental institution or they get life in prison.. which is pretty much the alternative choice in this debate |
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Aug 1 2004, 10:57 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Aug 1 2004, 10:52 PM) They don't "get off"; they just don't get the death penalty.. I think they're either admitted to a mental institution or they get life in prison.. which is pretty much the alternative choice in this debate If they do get off death roll due to insanity plea and a professional in the field says that they aren't insane after a time later, do they still get life in prison? |
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Aug 1 2004, 11:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
QUOTE If they do get off death roll due to insanity plea and a professional in the field says that they aren't insane after a time later, do they still get life in prison? Err... no clue I'd have to research I seriously doubt that many of those cases happen though.. |
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Aug 2 2004, 11:32 AM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
no, it's insanity at the time of the crime.
once a professional says they aren't insane anymore, they're considered free to go, i belive. they may still be held in the mental institute for a while or something, i'm not sure. but i do know that pleading temporary insanity at a trial, if accepted, gets you off. |
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Aug 2 2004, 03:45 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 2 2004, 11:32 AM) no, it's insanity at the time of the crime. once a professional says they aren't insane anymore, they're considered free to go, i belive. they may still be held in the mental institute for a while or something, i'm not sure. but i do know that pleading temporary insanity at a trial, if accepted, gets you off.  That's horrible! They should, at the very least, be detained or stay in prison.
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Aug 2 2004, 03:55 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
i'm really not sure how it works, or if i'm even correct, but pretty sure i am.
a plea of temporary insanity doesn't pass with a jury well tho... but it will get you off with maybe parole, counsling, visits to a state shrink. |
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