Death Penalty, is it right or wrong? Options

[Mr. Psychotic]

"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."
--Machiavelli

nice....i heard that quote b4 but yea im 100% against the death penalty

[illyria]

totally against the death penalty. two wrongs don't make a right. our society is nothing but blood thirsty savages. *laughs* i say put them in prison. do you seriously think that the death penalty scares them? which would you be scared of? prison for the REST OF YOUR LIFE, or death???... no thank you i'll take death. quick and easy. i say throw all the criminals in prison and let them kill each other. prison is much worth then death. you get beaten, raped, and sometimes killed. and to deal with that daily. knowing that you'll never be free of that torture. THAT is true punishment. not death. why blacken my karma over a murderer?? don't think so. why should you be damned for killing someone? since i'm not christian i don't understand. so could someone please explain it to me. the people who carry out the "executions" are they immune to the commandment "thou shalt not kill."? cuz they're just "doing their job" i wonder. i'm not trying to be patronizing i just thought about that and i really don't understand that...

[NYsmiLez]

i think it should. but it shouldnt be that common. only fi liek u can totally prove the crime. like peopel saw, the evidence is there..and all that. cuz its stupdi to just house criminals. soo many americans' tax dollars are being wasted takign care of these losers.

[*Kathleen*]

totally against the death penalty. two wrongs don't make a right. our society is nothing but blood thirsty savages. *laughs*

Where has a sustained country not been blood thirsty savages? They need to survive, no?

i say put them in prison. do you seriously think that the death penalty scares them? which would you be scared of? prison for the REST OF YOUR LIFE, or death???... no thank you i'll take death. quick and easy.

That's what you think...you no longer live; no longer in existence. No chance of you to get out from some stupid appeal. It's not always easy when they mess up... Also, those future murderers that actually are sane enough to have a conscience, they know it's wrong, and they know they'll get killed for it.

i say throw all the criminals in prison and let them kill each other. prison is much worth then death. you get beaten, raped, and sometimes killed. and to deal with that daily. knowing that you'll never be free of that torture. THAT is true punishment. not death.

Um...those that are put in life over a murder are in high containment. They are isolated from everyone else. Murderers aren't put with the other criminals... Hah you see those types of things on "Oz" and whatnot, but that doesn't happen in real life. For those reasons, they keep them away from everyone else.

why blacken my karma over a murderer?? don't think so. why should you be damned for killing someone? since i'm not christian i don't understand.

Not everyone believes in karma.

the people who carry out the "executions" are they immune to the commandment "thou shalt not kill."? cuz they're just "doing their job" i wonder. i'm not trying to be patronizing i just thought about that and i really don't understand that...

They're not truly killing because they're just carrying out an order. Killing would be slaughtering a person because of a motive or because of your state of mind.

[juliar]

They're not truly killing because they're just carrying out an order. Killing would be slaughtering a person because of a motive or because of your state of mind.

Main Entry: 1kill
Pronunciation: 'kil
Function: verb
1 a : to deprive of life
Regardless of why you are taking their life, you are still taking their life. Yoi're still depriving them of their life. MURDERING is slaughtering a person because of a motive. Killing and murdering are two seperate things.

[ComradeRed]

Where has a sustained country not been blood thirsty savages? They need to survive, no?

Bloodthirsty savages are sweet.

That's what you think...you no longer live; no longer in existence. No chance of you to get out from some stupid appeal. It's not always easy when they mess up... Also, those future murderers that actually are sane enough to have a conscience, they know it's wrong, and they know they'll get killed for it.

That's fine, but it's only fair to have tyhe deaht penalty for government agents (FBI, ATF, DEA, CIA, District Attornies) that kill people later proved to be innocent.

Um...those that are put in life over a murder are in high containment. They are isolated from everyone else. Murderers aren't put with the other criminals... Hah you see those types of things on "Oz" and whatnot, but that doesn't happen in real life. For those reasons, they keep them away from everyone else.

NO they are not isolated from everyone else. Supreme Court ruled that Solitary Confinement UNLESS you do something bad while in prison is unconstitutional.

Not everyone believes in karma.

Karma is pretty sweet too

They're not truly killing because they're just carrying out an order. Killing would be slaughtering a person because of a motive or because of your state of mind.

No... that's still killing, it's just not voluntary manslaughter.

[*Kathleen*]

Thanks for clearing that up for me, Julia.

NO they are not isolated from everyone else. Supreme Court ruled that Solitary Confinement UNLESS you do something bad while in prison is unconstitutional.

When did that happen?

[*liquidize*]

there should be al death penalty like bcuz who wnts a krajee physco killer roming the world after 80 yr.s of prison

[NvieDi3ai3yGrL]

i'm partial to the idea of it being right or wrong. the people who have killed others will get what they deserve in the end. it's not safe to have them running the streets after something like that. they could spend a life in prison but there is only so much room for the many who have killed others. also those families who lost loved ones find closure in the death of someone who has caused them such pain. however, there are times where innocent people are wrongly accused and then die for no reason. it's hard to have justice when there are liars and things like bias exist. no one is every fairly judged 100% but the legal system is as close to fair as we can get. some innocent wil die unfortunately and some will be rightly accused of their crimes and pay. i don't like the fact that any person would have the ability to kill another regardless of what they've done. i firmly believe that those who've hurt others will get what they deserve in the end. everything comes full circle. no one should ever choose the life or death of another human being.

[onenonly101]

the people who carry out the "executions" are they immune to the commandment "thou shalt not kill."? cuz they're just "doing their job" i wonder. i'm not trying to be patronizing i just thought about that and i really don't understand that...

It is really thou shall not murder. Murder is the unlawful killing of someone.


I said this i think in another topic that you might say now that you are absolutely against the death penalty, but you don't know how you would feel in that situtation. What if someone killed your uncle,your,mother or father. You would want the just penalty right? Because there are people parolled and what if they came back for someone else. Or in the case that you testified against them and they get out and come kill you. I would rather not have any chance of that

[ComradeRed]

What if someone killed Comrade Lenin?

[*Kathleen*]

i firmly believe that those who've hurt others will get what they deserve in the end. everything comes full circle. no one should ever choose the life or death of another human being.

That's not guaranteed, though. It's simply a belief.

[NvieDi3ai3yGrL]

That's not guaranteed, though. It's simply a belief.

if you note carefully i did say in my statement that is is "my firm belief" about people getting what they deserve in the end .. it doesn't have to be everyone else's view ..

[*Kathleen*]

it doesn't have to be everyone else's view ..

Yes, which is why we can't base our decision on having the death penalty for one belief.

[YOWTF]

Yes I'm for death penalty. Why give those who have commited an outrageous criminal act(s) a chance to do them all over again, or be well fed, or have a place to sleep, etc. Let's just kill them to prevent any repeating or innocent lives being taken again.

[DisneyPrincessKa...]

The death penalty is hypocritical. Since when is hypocrisy ok?

[*Kathleen*]

The death penalty is hypocritical. Since when is hypocrisy ok?

How exactly is it hypocritical?

[DisneyPrincessKa...]

How exactly is it hypocritical?

They use the death penalty when someone has killed people. So, they're killing someone for killing someone else. That's possibly one of the dumbest things ever.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind -Ghandi

[easilyxamusedx]

I did a persuasive speech on this.
I'm against it.

[easilyxamusedx]

and i go by the whole "two wrongs don't make a right.." quote.

[*Kathleen*]

They use the death penalty when someone has killed people. So, they're killing someone for killing someone else. That's possibly one of the dumbest things ever.

The thing is, they're killing a murderer. Murdering and killing are two different things...there's definitions on the page previous to this. About the "eye for an eye" quote, there's a pretty good refute made by uninspiredfae that I quoted a couple pages ago. No one has refuted it yet.

[Spirited Away]

and i go by the whole "two wrongs don't make a right.." quote.

Agreed that it is, indeed two wrongs, HOWEVER, one of the wrongs is justified.

If you kill inorder to prevent more murders or suffering for people, the act of that killing is justified.

They do not make a right, but one of the two saves lives and prevent more troubles for society.

So as Kathleen says (I think), they're two different kind of 'wrongs'.

Edit:: I've thought up of severals way to refute myself, because I've left too many openings in my arguement, but no one has done it yet...

[*NatiMarie*]

Eh, I don't agree w/ the death penalty. I guess I also go w/ two wrongs don't make it right. There are many murder cases...and some can be justified...well, *cough* dang I really suck at this. *turns off music* I can't multi-task.
When a person commits a murder, they can be given the death penalty by choice I think. Well that would be better, but then again, if they choose the death penalty, they know that when they committed the murder, if they stay in jail, they're suffer greatly.

I don't know, maybe the death penalty should be given as a choice.

*just reading my argument and seeing how bad it is*

[JlIaTMK]

i really dont think there should be a death penalty

but otherwise i think their should be a law where it allows the person thats being charged to choose whether or not they want to live or die

if u think about it ur doing the same thing the prisoner did to other ppl or things

[xislandxstylex]

no. the most it shouljd be life in jail. even someone really bad shouldn't have to end their life. or at least they shouldn't have to be given the death penalty but choose it.