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[AmesBond]

^^ Hey, people up there. Evolution exists. In mere couple of sentences, you try to dispel all of Charles Darwin's findings? I suggest you guys study up on the Galapagos Islands before you say anything more of evolution.

[waccoon]

and if evolution was real and there was a "big bang" things wouldnt be in order. planets would be tilted. an example is if you threw pieces of a pusszle with letters on them on the ground. they wouldnt automatically fit together. most of them wouldnt make words. some would be upside down. thats why there is a hand that puts the peices of the puzzle together, just as the world was made.

space has no direction, i hope you know that. it can be viewed from any angle, as it's space, theres no one base direction.

[onenonly101]

I believe Geometry was made up. All the theorems and postulutes and degrees measure. Someone who was bored with the way things were and how they were being taught made it up

[onenonly101]

^^ Hey, people up there. Evolution exists. In mere couple of sentences, you try to dispel all of Charles Darwin's findings? I suggest you guys study up on the Galapagos Islands before you say anything more of evolution.

That doesn't prove evolution. You believe evolution because of what someone else believed someone who came to believe in God and not even belive in what he "found"

[AmesBond]

I believe Geometry was made up. All the theorems and postulutes and degrees measure. Someone who was bored with the way things were and how they were being taught made it up

Wow. You must not be liking Geometry in school for someone who would take such a logical thing as math and say that it's "made up." Pure mockery...

[waccoon]

I believe Geometry was made up. All the theorems and postulutes and degrees measure. Someone who was bored with the way things were and how they were being taught made it up

they didnt make it up, they gave names for it. if there werent any angles, degrees or measures, there wouldn't be a world, everything has an angle.

[waccoon]

That doesn't prove evolution. You believe evolution because of what someone else believed someone who came to believe in God and not even belive in what he "found"

then why do you believe god because of what's in a book, and what someone else said, and was never proves? charles darwin is the most respectable figure ever, and he never recanted his views on evolution.

[Spirited Away]

I believe Geometry was made up. All the theorems and postulutes and degrees measure. Someone who was bored with the way things were and how they were being taught made it up

WOW. You're saying something like the Pythagorean Theorem was made up? It's a proof, a fact.

Well then according to you, shapes and sizes that we see in everyday life is made up? Geometry has to do with these things... I don't see how it can be.

I could conclude then, that all math was made up, too, since 'someone had to be bored with the ways things were' or someone was just curious on how to things work and made it up.

[AmesBond]

That doesn't prove evolution. You believe evolution because of what someone else believed someone who came to believe in God and not even belive in what he "found"

I never said "God" didn't exist. I just think that evolution is more logical than a gigantic hand coming from the sky and placing everything in order. I believe in evolution and I'm not just going to pretend it doesn't exist when there is evidence out there supporting this. The "God" you believe in is so abstract, but do I tell you he doesn't exist? You need to accept other people's point of views and opinions and stop being so close-minded and one-sided.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

Ever since i took biology in 9th grade, I've believed in evolution. I still believe that there's a god, because that's how I was brought up you know? But I don't believe in all the catholic stories and stuff, because some of these seem really, um rediculous?

Ok, back with Galileo, everyone thought earth was the center of the universe, and all the planets and the sun revolved around it... why? Because that's what the church wanted them believe. But then Galileo discovered that the sun was the center of the earth... The church freaked out, and held on tight to their own little story or whatever... They were naiive, they didn't know any better, how could they? Science wasn't really out there like it is today ya know?

So, now that we have all this scientific knowledge, or theories about things, I believe that evolution is just how we kinda got here as humans. However, I do believe that everything had to have started with something. If we all came here from one little gas, or one little cell or whatever, then how did the cell get there?? That is where I say that I believe that there is something that must have created that one thing that we all evolved from, and that's were my belief in some sort of god comes in....

[waccoon]

I never said "God" didn't exist. I just think that evolution is more logical than a gigantic hand coming from the sky and placing everything in order. I believe in evolution and I'm not just going to pretend it doesn't exist when there is evidence out there supporting this. The "God" you believe in is so abstract, but do I tell you he doesn't exist? You need to accept other people's point of views and opinions and stop being so close-minded and one-sided.

please ames, watch the member bashing

[*AngelicEyz00*]

That doesn't prove evolution. You believe evolution because of what someone else believed someone who came to believe in God and not even belive in what he "found"

but you believe in god because someone told you to, so what's the difference??

[tkproduce]

This topic is going way off track. We are not meant to believe everything that is in the Bible - we are meant to read and understand parts of it. Different people will be affected by different parts of the Bible. A lot of the old testamnet is fantasy. God made the world in 6 days? Every religion has some sort of myth behind the creation of Earth. Now that science has developed, we know more things, many of which contradicts the bible in many ways. But like I've said before, HUMANS WROTE THE BIBLE! GOD DIDN'T!!!!! There are bound to be mistakes.

But just because science has developed, that doesn't mean we can explain everything - and I believe that somethings will never be explained. That's God. Evolution? Maybe that was God's way of "creating" us humans. I mean, compared to the life of the Universe, or even Earth, humans existence is insignificant.

[AmesBond]

please ames, watch the member bashing

Was I bashing? Sorry, got a little heated there...

[*AngelicEyz00*]

This topic is going way off track. We are not meant to believe everything that is in the Bible - we are meant to read and understand parts of it. Different people will be affected by different parts of the Bible. A lot of the old testamnet is fantasy. God made the world in 6 days? Every religion has some sort of myth behind the creation of Earth. Now that science has developed, we know more things, many of which contradicts the bible in many ways. But like I've said before, HUMANS WROTE THE BIBLE! GOD DIDN'T!!!!! There are bound to be mistakes.

But just because science has developed, that doesn't mean we can explain everything - and I believe that somethings will never be explained. That's God. Evolution? Maybe that was God's way of "creating" us humans. I mean, compared to the life of the Universe, or even Earth, humans existence is insignificant.

I find your argument to be very reasonable

[tkproduce]

I find your argument to be very reasonable

Thank you.

Why do I thank you? To show my appreciation. Why do I feel appreciated? Because I felt good about your comment. Why did I feel "good"? Can you scientifically and rationally explain my feelings? Probably not. That's where God comes in

[Spirited Away]

Why do I thank you? To show my appreciation. Why do I feel appreciated? Because I felt good about your comment. Why did I feel "good"? Can you scientifically and rationally explain my feelings? Probably not. That's where God comes in

No, you are definately harder to crack then she is.. Ignorance (her) I can deal with, but logic is logic.

I question that, too. How do we explain feelings.

[waccoon]

a chemical is released in the brain, and a chemical reaction occurs.

[tkproduce]

a chemical is released in the brain, and a chemical reaction occurs.

why is this "chemical" released? Surely if the main aim for living things on Earth is to reproduce and pass on their genes for the survival of their own species, then there is no point in this "chemical" being released? Surely it is energetically unfavorable and it is just wasting time which could be spent reproducing for the survival of human species?

[dukesoccer07]

If evolution is true then things would not rot, they would evolve....

[waccoon]

why is this "chemical" released? Surely if the main aim for living things on Earth is to reproduce and pass on their genes for the survival of their own species, then there is no point in this "chemical" being released? Surely it is energetically unfavorable and it is just wasting time which could be spent reproducing for the survival of human species?

is sending a signal to let you know that you're hungry, or you have the sensation to go to the bathroom - is that an unfavorable ability?

[AmesBond]

why is this "chemical" released?  Surely if the main aim for living things on Earth is to reproduce and pass on their genes for the survival of their own species, then there is no point in this "chemical" being released?  Surely it is energetically unfavorable and it is just wasting time which could be spent reproducing for the survival of human species?

Sympathetic nervous system releases the stress hormones epinephrine and norepinephrine from the nerve endings in the inner part of the adrenal glands...these stress hormones enter the bloodstream...increases heart rate and respiration, diverts blood from digestion to the skeletal muscles, dulls pains, and releases sugar and fat from the body's stores--all to prepare the body for...stress response.

-- Psychology, 7th ed., David G. Myers

There's the chemical you're looking for.

[*CrackedRearView*]

You want a good reason to believe in the being God?

Take a look at Jesus.

How do we know Jesus existed?

Read the Bible.

Why's that important?

Because the New Testament consists of hundreds of different testimonies from hundreds of different, credible sources who lived hundreds of miles from each other.

It's not like they all sat down at a table and started making up a story. It was an individual thing.

You think it's just some weird coincidence that hundreds of people decided on the same idea?

Also,

we were genetically mutated from monkeys over many years, so the process was gradual. it didnt go BAM theres your human, no more monkey.

Maybe you should read up on Charles Darwin a bit.

First, that moron claimed that humans were descendants of the Neanderthals, even though new scientific skull findings show that neanderthals and modern day homo sapien sapiens could not even possibly be genetically related. Furthermore, DNA samples of the skulls showed Neanderthal/Homo Sapien interbreeding. So, if two mass, I repeat, mass species (because this was a study of thousands of skulls) lived at the same time, how can you claim such a gradual change?

Second, didn't you know that the founder of these preposterous ideas began to doubt them on the eve of his death? Darwin knew he was an idiot.

[Spirited Away]

How do we know Jesus existed?

Read the Bible.

The Bible was written by man in the age where science wasn't very acceptable.

Because the New Testament consists of hundreds of different testimonies from hundreds of different, credible sources who lived hundreds of miles from each other.

And these hundreds of people ALREADY believed in the same thing, so ofcourse, they'll testify to things that's in accord with their beliefs.

You think it's just some weird coincidence that hundreds of people decided on the same idea?

It wasn't a coincidence. But how did these people know about God? They heard it from someone, who heard it from someone else. How reliable is that?

Maybe you should read up on Charles Darwin a bit.

Maybe you should, too. Why don't you try to discredit Darwin about the Gagalapagos islands.

I don't see how he's a moron if he's able to write up something that would cause this much of a controversy. We wouldn't be learning from him in classrooms if he was an idiot.

[likeachild]

okay, im gonna start something new. if i go murder some child, why should i have to go to hell for it? after all, god is perfect. god knew that i was going to kill that little kid. if he knew it was going to do it, then i couldn't have possibly changed my mind. if i changed my mind and let the child live, god would have been wrong. and god is perfect. so why should i go to hell for my 'mistakes'? i shouldn't. whoever thought up god should have thought a little harder.

He gives you free will
so you can do whatever you please

but whatever you do
is part of a way bigger plan that no human can comprehend

perhaps the death of that little child would cause something else...

How do we know Jesus existed?

Read the Bible.

The Bible was written by man in the age where science wasn't very acceptable.

the Bible was written by hundreds of men over thousands of years...and yet it still proves itself true it ... fits together perfectly

explain that.