God Options

[princess2113]

how overrated it takes one thing

its not really differant or contradicting, it just depends how u look at it. in ways it is harder b/c we deal with it in Christian ways, perhaps not as easy as punching someone. but easier b/c we know to turn to God

[ComradeRed]

It's always easier to diplomacize than to punch. And better results too, because then you get a thug on your side who you can use to punch people who don't diplomacize.

[Spirited Away]

how overrated it takes one thing

its not really differant or contradicting, it just depends how u look at it. in ways it is harder b/c we deal with it in Christian ways, perhaps not as easy as punching someone. but easier b/c we know to turn to God

You said "it just depends on how you look at it". Well then, how I look at it is that it is contradicting and different.

I can easily say that it is harder because we (non-believers) deal with it in scientific ways.

Science, as you know, must go through numerous expiriments, testings, and patience to achieve certain results or perchance a discovery that's life-altering, while all Christians have to do is look in the Bible, and all the answers are there.

[princess2113]

You said "it just depends on how you look at it". Well then, how I look at it is that it is contradicting and different.

I can easily say that it is harder because we (non-believers) deal with it in scientific ways.

Science, as you know, must go through numerous expiriments, testings, and patience to achieve certain results or perchance a discovery that's life-altering, while all Christians have to do is look in the Bible, and all the answers are there.

we dont have ALL of the answers....some we must wait until we get to Heaven for...and those we dunt even worry abt....God told us what we need to know....

[Spirited Away]

we dont have ALL of the answers....some we must wait until we get to Heaven for...and those we dunt even worry abt....God told us what we need to know....

Right, but that's what I've been trying to say.

God tells you the answer or the Bible will, and even the Church will. But with science you must try to find the answer on your own, you must discover it instead of walking to someone and ask them.

[princess2113]

Right, but that's what I've been trying to say.

God tells you the answer or the Bible will, and even the Church will. But with science you must try to find the answer on your own, you must discover it instead of walking to someone and ask them.

well in ways we do 2....we read the Bible and interpert it....thats y there r sooo many differant donominations...the Bible doesnt alwayz say this is this...u have to kinda read between the lines and decide what u believe

oh, and the church gets answers frum the Bible...chuch=congregation of Christian

[Spirited Away]

well in ways we do 2....we read the Bible and interpert it....thats y there r sooo many differant donominations...the Bible doesnt alwayz say this is this...u have to kinda read between the lines and decide what u believe

oh, and the church gets answers frum the Bible...chuch=congregation of Christian

Okay, yes. BUT you get your answers from something that already 'exist' or the answers are given to you, while science is built from scratch.

[princess2113]

Okay, yes. BUT you get your answers from something that already 'exist' or the answers are given to you, while science is built from scratch.

well God exist so yeah we get answers from Him. but sometimes its not juts plainly written...we have to look for it too........in other ppl or in other things....and the science...most of it exist...we just havnt found it yet=)

[Spirited Away]

well God exist so yeah we get answers from Him. but sometimes its not juts plainly written...we have to look for it too........in other ppl or in other things....and the science...most of it exist...we just havnt found it yet=)

You mean science has to be discovered. While you can find answers from the Bible or a revelation from God.

[IIO__oII]

You said "it just depends on how you look at it". Well then, how I look at it is that it is contradicting and different.

I can easily say that it is harder because we (non-believers) deal with it in scientific ways.

Science, as you know, must go through numerous expiriments, testings, and patience to achieve certain results or perchance a discovery that's life-altering, while all Christians have to do is look in the Bible, and all the answers are there.

wellll... its not always like we look for an answer, and we open a bible and say O! look! ive found the answer! we do research and many experiements also... we dont knoe everyting. =/

[Spirited Away]

wellll... its not always like we look for an answer, and we open a bible and say O! look! ive found the answer! we do research and many experiements also... we dont knoe everyting. =/

YOu guys need to make your mind!!!

One of you said something along the lines of "go read the Bible, it has all the answers" somewhere in the previous posts. (It's too long to go back and search for it). But one of you say one thing and another one contradict it, very confusing here people.

I realize that you don't know everything, actually no one does. But why don't you ask God? Isn't He suppose to let you know the answer since you can feel Him and know that He's there?

[easilyxamusedx]

I believe in God.

What's the harm in believing?

[Spirited Away]

what's the harm in not believing?

[princess2113]

what's the harm in not believing?

lol we havn't answered enough? HELL!!!!


nooo the Bible doesnt have ALL the answers....it has all the ones we need to know....but some things u can interpurt(sp??) differantly....like Communion

[easilyxamusedx]

that you could possibly, not go to heaven.
Gah, I promised myself I wouldn't get into this debate.

[Spirited Away]

lol we havn't answered enough? HELL!!!!


nooo the Bible doesnt have ALL the answers....it has all the ones we need to know....but some things u can interpurt(sp??) differantly....like Communion

But I don't believe in Hell, so there's no harm in not believing at least for me.

First someone, possibly you, said the Bible has all the answers and now you say that it doesn't... I don't know what to think anymore, so I'll keep quiet.

that you could possibly, not go to heaven.

I don't believe in that either, sorry. But I like your answer better because it has the word "possibly". The other people are so sure to say that not believing in God will make you go to Hell. I don't think that God is that evil.

[princess2113]

But I don't believe in Hell, so there's no harm in not believing at least for me.

First someone, possibly you, said the Bible has all the answers and now you say that it doesn't... I don't know what to think anymore, so I'll keep quiet.



I don't believe in that either, sorry. But I like your answer better because it has the word "possibly". The other people are so sure to say that not believing in God will make you go to Hell. I don't think that God is that evil.

hum who cares if u believe in it or not..that doesnt mean it doesnt exist for u just b/c u dunt believe....God...evil? yeah He isnt evil AT ALL! but Heaven is a treasure and a gift to He gives to ppl who love Him...i dunt think i said the Bible has all the answers but if i did ive made it clear that some things we dunno till we get to Heaven....it has all the answers we need

[easilyxamusedx]

yes, this is a 'what if' question.
what if, there is a heaven or hell?
if you believed, and say there wasn't, well. i guess you just spent your time being..a christian. (or whichever religion you happen to be/choose)
if you haden't, well, now you're out of luck.

this isn't the reason i believe in god, however.

[Spirited Away]

hum who cares if u believe in it or not..that doesnt mean it doesnt exist for u just b/c u dunt believe....God...evil? yeah He isnt evil AT ALL! but Heaven is a treasure and a gift to He gives to ppl who love Him...i dunt think i said the Bible has all the answers but if i did ive made it clear that some things we dunno till we get to Heaven....it has all the answers we need

It's kind of rude to say who cares if I believe, because it's good enough for me if I believe. Just like I can say that if you believe that God exists doens't mean that He actually does, so who cares if you believe.

So He pick favorites and give His gift only to those who loves Him. That's picking favorites. It's like grandma giving Christmas presents to one child but not the others. Meaning, God's not fair.

I wish you'd said that sooner about the Bible having all the answers, because that really make things easier. If the Bible doesn't give you all the answers then most of your 'answers' are hunches or 'revelations' from God, it's nothing valid, because it's just something 'you believe in'.

Remember that you said it yourself, 'who cares if you believe in it or not', it 'doesn't mean it doesnt [does] exists'.

if you haden't, well, now you're out of luck. 

I don't see it being 'out of luck', I just see it as having 'free will'. Isn't that what God intended? For his creation to have 'free will'?

[Yemmerz]

hum who cares if u believe in it or not..

its a debate. it does matter if they believe or not. thats why we're having a debate.

don't believe in that either, sorry. But I like your answer better because it has the word "possibly". The other people are so sure to say that not believing in God will make you go to Hell. I don't think that God is that evil.

God is not being evil. You are being punished for your sins. He's not being evil, He's being real and is basically living up to the "You do the crime[in this case sin] you pay the time[which is being placed in hell]" saying

[Spirited Away]

God is not being evil. You are being punished for your sins. He's not being evil, He's being real and is basically doing the "You do the crime[in this case sin] you pay the time[which is being placed in hell]"

What crime would be labeled as evil enough to go to Hell?

I know there are different levels of Hell, but what would be bad enough as punishment?

Some people do repent for their sins, not because of God or fear of going to Hell, they do it for their own peace of mind.

[Yemmerz]

EDIT BY YEMMERZ
1) What crime would be labeled as evil enough to go to Hell?

2) I know there are different levels of Hell, but what would be bad enough as punishment?

3) Some people do repent for their sins, not because of God or fear of going to Hell, they do it for their own peace of mind.

1) If you break the 10 Commandments too many times.

2) i dont know what you mean...[im kinda out of it today]

3) yes and if you get saved [which is the christian repent sort of..] then you are forgived for your sins.

[Spirited Away]

1) If you break the 10 Commandments too many times.

2) i dont know what you mean...[im kinda out of it today]

3) yes and if you get saved [which is the christian repent sort of..] then you are forgived for your sins.

Christians and non-Christians break the 10 commandments everyday. Christians and non-Christians repent too, but only Christians are forgiven because they believe in God. It doesn't matter if non-Christians repent because they'll go to Hell anyway for not believing (according to the other Christians debatin on here).

Oh, I meant, what kind of crime is bad enough to be sent to Hell?

So you can only be saved if you convert and believe in God? I thought He gave us free will to believe Him? It shouldn't be so carelessly given if He meant to punish those who chose to take free will seriously.

[*kryogenix*]

Man, i'm telling you right now, i didn't read any posts except for the first post in this thread. i guarantee there are going to be so many religious zealots and equally zealous christian bashers.

The fact is, I was taught to believe in God, I found satisfaction in my religion so I continued to believe. And I still believe today. Even if you don't believe in God, I'll respect you, so you should respect me and my beliefs.

[onenonly101]

Christians and non-Christians break the 10 commandments everyday. Christians and non-Christians repent too, but only Christians are forgiven because they believe in God. It doesn't matter if non-Christians repent because they'll go to Hell anyway for not believing (according to the other Christians debatin on here).

Oh, I meant, what kind of crime is bad enough to be sent to Hell?

So you can only be saved if you convert and believe in God? I thought He gave us free will to believe Him? It shouldn't be so carelessly given if He meant to punish those who chose to take free will seriously.

Nothing can take you salvation away. Once you(not just believe there is a God) become saved(saved is accpeting Christ into your life and realizing he died on the cross for our sins so that we may be forgiven) NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING can take your salvation away