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princess2113
post Jun 5 2004, 09:08 PM
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im not your sweetie and i explained the Holy Spirit that was merly the first line
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 09:56 PM
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You sound like Mandy Moore in the movie Saved... laugh.gif Sorry. I just had to say that. You sound like you know your Holy Bible fairly well. *cough cough* So.. I have some questions and comments.

1. Do you think that people, who did not know the existence of Christianity, went, or will go, to Hell?

2. Why is that you're spending time lecturing other people that Christ exists online, instead of reaching out to your friends, etcetera?

3. You have no right whatsoever to contradict and criticize other people's religion disrespectfully... You talk as if Christianity is the only religion that exists...

4. I feel that instead of lecturing other people that Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved from this infernal burning abyss, or in other word, Hell, you should do something actually good, instead of just staying in your room, typing biased arguments. Like for example, go to the nursing home and warm people's heart. In my opinion, you should just shut your computer off and re-read your bible... Heck, I'm not even sure if you read it!

I think that humans depend on religion to feel better. I think that one of many fears of Human is afterlife--what's going to happen. Just because majority of people think it's true, doesn't mean it's right. And this world itself is an example of God's creations?

Says who? You?
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(bibliomania @ Jun 5 2004, 9:56 PM)
You sound like Mandy Moore in the movie Saved... laugh.gif  Sorry. I just had to say that. You sound like you know your Holy Bible fairly well. *cough cough* So.. I have some questions and comments.

1. Do you think that people, who did not know the existence of Christianity, went, or will go, to Hell?

2. Why is that you're spending time lecturing other people that Christ exists online, instead of reaching out to your friends, etcetera?

3. You have no right whatsoever to contradict and criticize other people's religion disrespectfully... You talk as if Christianity is the only religion that exists...

4. I feel that instead of lecturing other people that Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved from this infernal burning abyss, or in other word, Hell, you should do something actually good, instead of just staying in your room, typing biased arguments. Like for example, go to the nursing home and warm people's heart. In my opinion, you should just shut your computer off and re-read your bible... Heck, I'm not even sure if you read it!

I think that humans depend on religion to feel better. I think that one of many fears of Human is afterlife--what's going to happen. Just because majority of people think it's true, doesn't mean it's right. And this world itself is an example of God's creations?

Says who? You?

Hum if that was supposed to be mean 2 bad b/c honestly I LOVE knowing abt the Bible.....
1.) No. God is a fair God. such as little children that die b4 they can know God i dunt believe they go to hell....ppl in communist countries or that have never hear of or had the oppurtunity to know God then no i dunt believe they go to hell...HOWEVER, i also believe most ppl have the chance to come to know God b4 they die....MOST....and if u meant "went" as in b4 Jesus then here we go...He came for the PAST the present and the furture...its between that person ant God....dunt try not believing n think on Judgement Day u'll use that excuse...He knows biggrin.gif
2.)hum not lecturing and i talk abt Him with my friends ALLLLLL the time....most of the r Hindus n we talk abt the differances in our religions
3.) I have the right to contradict...its a debate wink.gif im not disprespecting or critizing im merly stating a point because some ppl earlier, and still, think its funny to say "praise Allah" when it is quite obvious they know nothing of the Islamic faith...im sticking up for the Muslims there....u need to read the other pages....i think a lot of what they say is wrong but some of it is exactly what i believe.
4.)ohh i read it but im guessing you dont? b/c u dunt get to Heaven by good deads...o and you are doing the same thing you are lecturing me about reading my Bible and doing good instead of being on the computer but hey! ur writing on here too!!! so i tell u this..."go warm pplz heart in a nursing home" and read the Bible....aslo u made a few comments that make is sound as if it bad to read the Bible n it sounds like bashing so plz cut out the sarcasm we have debated for almost 50 pages and we don't need you to say anything about it....b/c i dont think its gonna stop wink.gif

hum i like knowing that im gonna be fine when i die....but i dunt go "hey im gonna believe so i feel safe" i believe b/c i know its right. and yes, look around! wake up!! the world IS an example of God's creations!
says me and the person who wrote it....yup...and says God.
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 10:26 PM
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Cmon guys lay off God and start on another God like like Alaa or some other starter person like Buddah.
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 10:43 PM
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haha this topic is making me laugh...you guys have not made progress yet
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(wantingtobehis @ Jun 5 2004, 11:43 PM)
haha this topic is making me laugh...you guys have not made progress yet

Well, you're not helping.
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(krnxswat @ Jun 5 2004, 10:45 PM)
Well, you're not helping.

Sorry. but, i don't know if there is anything to change anyone. lolly stubborn people..
i'll try
how come you guys are against the idea of God?
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(wantingtobehis @ Jun 5 2004, 8:43 PM)
haha this topic is making me laugh...you guys have not made progress yet

Well, when two sides who believe strongly about what they are representing, do you really think there will be any progress?
Plus, it's fun. So I don't wanna stop.

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how come you guys are against the idea of God?

Because I don't like the idea that I was put here on this earth just so that I can go somewhere else if I believe something that's completely ludicrous.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ Jun 5 2004, 10:52 PM)
Well, when two sides who believe strongly about what they are representing, do you really think there will be any progress?
Plus, it's fun. So I don't wanna stop.


Because I don't like the idea that I was put here on this earth just so that I can go somewhere else if I believe something that's completely ludicrous.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't true and thats not why we were here. you are here to praise, worship, and share in God's word...
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(wantingtobehis @ Jun 5 2004, 8:54 PM)
just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't true and thats not why we were here. you are here to praise, worship, and share in God's word...

Well, you asked me why I'm against the idea of a God, and I told you.
And what exactly does praise, worship, and sharing his word require for us to do?
Is it not believe in Him?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ Jun 5 2004, 10:56 PM)
Well, you asked me why I'm against the idea of a God, and I told you.
And what exactly does praise, worship, and sharing his word require for us to do?
Is it not believe in Him?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

i'll explain for her

to go to Heaven believe in Him....put on this earth to praise Him, love Him, worship Him, believe in Him, tell ppl abt Him, etc....
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 5 2004, 11:03 PM)
i'll explain for her

to go to Heaven believe in Him....put on this earth to praise Him, love Him, worship Him, believe in Him, tell ppl abt Him, etc....

woa woa woa...
I am not going to worship someone that I dont even know, or even exists. Not going to fold my hands in prayer and go on my knees for ANYONE.
 
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post Jun 5 2004, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(Blueiyzboy @ Jun 5 2004, 11:28 PM)
woa woa woa...
I am not going to worship someone that I dont even know, or even exists. Not going to fold my hands in prayer and go on my knees for ANYONE.

1st of all...you get to know Him wink.gif ....and He exist...even if u dunt like it...He does.....oo and u dunt have to fold you hands or go to ur knees....i pray a LOT and i dunt think ive folded my hands in a longgggggggg time....and i only go to the knees at church when every1 is doing it...you can have your own style of prayer....we do certain things to stay concentrated n it sume ppls way of showing respect......
 
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post Jun 6 2004, 12:06 AM
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Because I don't like the idea that I was put here on this earth just so that I can go somewhere else if I believe something that's completely ludicrous.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi


i mean.. wuts so ludicruous about beliving in God..?
the Being that made me and everyting around me?
 
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post Jun 6 2004, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 6 2004, 12:32 AM)
1st of all...you get to know Him wink.gif ....and He exist...even if u dunt like it...He does.....oo and u dunt have to fold you hands or go to ur knees....i pray a LOT and i dunt think ive folded my hands in a longgggggggg time....and i only go to the knees at church when every1 is doing it...you can have your own style of prayer....we do certain things to stay concentrated n it sume ppls way of showing respect......

you really get to kno god......whoa.....Whats his favorite color...oh and his b-day. ill send him a card....can i get his address and last name too plz???
 
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post Jun 6 2004, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(stryker76 @ Jun 6 2004, 12:54 AM)
you really get to kno god......whoa.....Whats his favorite color...oh and his b-day. ill send him a card....can i get his address and last name too plz???

Exactlly!!!

Have you seen him? Do you know he exists? No... then dont say it!
 
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post Jun 6 2004, 06:45 AM
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QUOTE(stryker76 @ Jun 6 2004, 12:54 AM)
you really get to kno god......whoa.....Whats his favorite color...oh and his b-day. ill send him a card....can i get his address and last name too plz???

well lets c He created the colors so all of them prolly....o He doesnt have a "b-day" He has alwayz been and alwayz will be.....His adress it Heaven Divine
Pearly Gates
God Almighty.
 
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 5 2004, 11:03 PM)
i'll explain for her

to go to Heaven believe in Him....put on this earth to praise Him, love Him, worship Him, believe in Him, tell ppl abt Him, etc....

As I said before, it is not enough to obey him... you must love him.

Forced love is rape, and by threatening people with eternal torture it's equivalent to forcing them. Are you saying that God is some divine rapist?
 
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you really get to kno god......whoa.....Whats his favorite color...oh and his b-day. ill send him a card....can i get his address and last name too plz???

hmm.... so how do u knoe u have a brain, a heart, and all those internal thingamagiger organs in ure body?? have u SEEN it? have u TOUCHED it????
_smile.gif
dont say u can get a brain scan and all that... i mean. wut if thats not REALLY your brain? it COULD by something else....
and ure "heartbeat".. could be something else beating for all i knoe...

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Exactlly!!!

Have you seen him? Do you know he exists? No... then dont say it!

do u knoe ure BRAIN exists? ure HEART? all ure ORGANS? have u cut into ure body and LOOKED?
 
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QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jun 6 2004, 12:15 PM)
hmm.... so how do u knoe u have a brain, a heart, and all those internal thingamagiger organs in ure body?? have u SEEN it? have u TOUCHED it????
_smile.gif
dont say u can get a brain scan and all that... i mean. wut if thats not REALLY your brain? it COULD by something else....
and ure "heartbeat".. could be something else beating for all i knoe...


do u knoe ure BRAIN exists? ure HEART? all ure ORGANS? have u cut into ure body and LOOKED?

other people have done autopsys, dissections. we know for a fact that our liver is functioning, or our urinary glands. have you seen god? have you smelt him, tasted him? no, you haven't. we know for a fact that our heart beats, we have studied it.

do you know for a fact, that god exists?
 
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hmm.... so how do u knoe u have a brain, a heart, and all those internal thingamagiger organs in ure body?? have u SEEN it? have u TOUCHED it????
_smile.gif
dont say u can get a brain scan and all that... i mean. wut if thats not REALLY your brain? it COULD by something else....
and ure "heartbeat".. could be something else beating for all i knoe...


do u knoe ure BRAIN exists? ure HEART? all ure ORGANS? have u cut into ure body and LOOKED?

Okay, we know they're there, because when people get surgery or when people get an autopsy or whatnot, they're there. You get to see them. Hell, if you get in a really bad accident, you might be able to see an organ or two. ( if you catch my drift )
So if you're trying to use that stupid comeback that christian kid did to that proffesor ( who obviously didn't deserve his position cuz he got pwned so easily ) you're pretty dumb. Because that article was obviously biased that's why the proffesor had no come back.

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i mean.. wuts so ludicruous about beliving in God..?
the Being that made me and everyting around me?

Okay, what proof do you have that you're even right about him making you and everything around you? The bible? Your faith? The fact that you THINK everything's just so perfectly placed that there was no way it was a cosmic fluke?
Hell, believe it or not, the world's not even perfect. Did you know it wobbles on its axis?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
 
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post Jun 6 2004, 12:51 PM
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[QUOTE]Okay, we know they're there, because when people get surgery or when people get an autopsy or whatnot, they're there. You get to see them. Hell, if you get in a really bad accident, you might be able to see an organ or two. ( if you catch my drift )
So if you're trying to use that stupid comeback that christian kid did to that proffesor ( who obviously didn't deserve his position cuz he got pwned so easily ) you're pretty dumb. Because that article was obviously biased that's why the proffesor had no come back.[/QUOTE]

and we know is God is there b/c when we need Him we can tell and b/c ppl have seen Him. We get to see God. u can c the outcome of surgery....we see the out come of God (creations) o if u get in a really bad accident...heck, u mite see an angel or two.



[QUOTE]Okay, what proof do you have that you're even right about him making you and everything around you? The bible? Your faith? The fact that you THINK everything's just so perfectly placed that there was no way it was a cosmic fluke?
Hell, believe it or not, the world's not even perfect. Did you know it wobbles on its axis?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi [/QUOTE]

Bible. Faith. Love. I know.


[/QUOTE]other people have done autopsys, dissections. we know for a fact that our liver is functioning, or our urinary glands. have you seen god? have you smelt him, tasted him? no, you haven't. we know for a fact that our heart beats, we have studied it.

do you know for a fact, that god exists? [QUOTE]

other ppl have seen God. others have seen His works. i know for a fact i function b/c of Him.....I have seen Him at work through others and His creation. ive semlt the flowers He created. Ive tasted the food He provides and drunk the water He sent. we know for a fact that God is read. We've studied it. We believe it _smile.gif



edit:: and yes u DO get to know God....i answered ur questions that were asked from sarcasm but do u really know ur friends favorite color.... huh.gif yeah well since God created all of them i guess He likes all of them... biggrin.gif
 
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and we know is God is there b/c when we need Him we can tell and b/c ppl have seen Him.  We get to see God. u can c the outcome of surgery....we see the out come of God (creations) o if u get in a really bad accident...heck, u mite see an angel or two.

Right. Have you seen God in person? Have you touched him with your own hands? How are you so sure that these people are actually legit, and that they aren't just talking to themselves?

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Bible. Faith. Love. I know.

Yeah, that kinda proves my point. That's all you have. Nothing more.


- Chinkieeyedpnoi
 
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post Jun 6 2004, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ Jun 6 2004, 1:01 PM)
Right. Have you seen God in person? Have you touched him with your own hands? How are you so sure that these people are actually legit, and that they aren't just talking to themselves?


Yeah, that kinda proves my point. That's all you have. Nothing more.


- Chinkieeyedpnoi

Ive seen His works. ive seen how His loved changed me. faith is believing w/o having to touch or see a face. o wow we must have a lotta ppl who need mental hospitals....let me tell u a story..again...
this lady i know frum my old church put her daughter on a plane, it was her daughters first time n she was going to see sume relative person. so when the plane took off her mom took a picture n when she got it developed she said there was an angel in the back. i never saw the picture but i dunt think she made it up n lots of ppl saw it.
 
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