God Options

[sammi rules you]

You'd have to believe in the Big Bang Theory because you say we came from apes, well where did the apes come from? Then people who believe that come from apes essentially have to believe in the big bang theory because that's where apes come from.

it starts with the big bang. planets and rocks are made from that. mold grows on the rocks. bacteria forms. bacteria evolves into animals. animals evolve into mammals. mammals evolve into apes.

Another word for chance and coincedence is God. Mircales are not just bam it happened out of nowhere with no help from someone else. Miracles are everyday things, such as a doctor saving someone or the medicine saving someone. God gave that person the knowledge to be able to help them, God gave the ability to heal them through the gifts that He gave us.

if he gave us the knowledge to heal people, why does technology grow over the years? uh, maybe because people learn things. and if what you said is so, why would God give some people a theory of him not existing?

About prayers being answered...I have many examples of that.
**I was at home one day and a stepped on a huge nail and it pierced my foot. It was bleeding for hours. I had to go somewhere so i put on my socks and shoes went there and when i took off my shoe my sock was soaked in blood and hurt very badly. MY parents were going to take me to the hospital but i was like it is alright let me pray,sleep, and in the morning if it is still bleeding then go to the hospital. The next morning i woke up i had forgotten all about my foot and got out of bed then i remembered looked down at my foot and it was gone, it didn't hurt or anything. I KNOW it was there because of the pain i was in and after I prayed the next morning I was healed. If that is not answering prayers I don't know what is.

really now..maybe cause people stop bleeding eventually. pain does go away, whether you pray or not.

[ritualcoma]

Credit? without God it wouldn't be. Bringing it back to the beginning. If God didn't make the human body, they would have nothing to research. God deserves the "credit" because He is the one who made us. If it weren't for Him there would be us, so why give ourselves the glory. Then it comes to pride and pride is a dangerous landmine in lives

what happened to the theory of evolution? big bang? does this mean anything to you?

[princess2113]

^ not alwayz...as u said earlier

[ritualcoma]

what did i say earlier??!?!

[princess2113]

what did i say earlier??!?!

ok it mite have been u...sume1 said not eveything has a divine meaing behind it...sometimes it happens...sometimes it doesnt...that much i think we all agree on? Christians believe its b/c God answers all prayers the right way and in God timing...which is alwayz the right time for us

[onenonly101]

what happened to the theory of evolution? big bang? does this mean anything to you?

I believe in God. Therefore I do not believe in the big bang theory

if he gave us the knowledge to heal people, why does technology grow over the years?

Because God gives us more knowledge more abilities to better our society.

uh, maybe because people learn things. and if what you said is so, why would God give some people a theory of him not existing?

God gives us freedom, free choice to make what we want to make and believe what we want to believe even if it isn't right. I don't know why we have freedom we just do.

really now..maybe cause people stop bleeding eventually. pain does go away, whether you pray or not.

Prayer determines many of factors. Things happen because people pray, whether someone else believes it or not and doesn't make prayer for a believer not happen

[ritualcoma]

this is a debate about whether or not god exists. please try to focus on that. not just saying "god did this god did that." give us HARD evidence that he did, and that he is indeed real.

[onenonly101]

Giving examples is evidence, knowing knowledge of what happen is evidence., but if your heart is hardened against hearing the Truth nothing will change that fact.

I have to get my hair braided, please ask more questions because it helps me.

[sammi rules you]

this is a debate about whether or not god exists. please try to focus on that. not just saying "god did this god did that." give us HARD evidence that he did, and that he is indeed real.

thats what weve all been asking for! but all people seem to say is "i believe in Him, therefore He is real." no ones been able to show SOLID PROOF that God is real without relating it to their belief in Him. the side who does not believe in Him has stated our reasons for non-belief, so where are the reasons for belief from the other side? just because YOU PERSONALLY believe in Him does not make Him real.

[ritualcoma]

your "encounters" with god have been scientifically explained to you and you choose to ignore it. you have no hard evidence. like seeing him. or some supernatural thing happening before your eyes (meaning something that cant be scientifically proven wrong)

[princess2113]

your "encounters" with god have been scientifically explained to you and you choose to ignore it. you have no hard evidence. like seeing him. or some supernatural thing happening before your eyes (meaning something that cant be scientifically proven wrong)

u cant prove us wrong either....and many ppl have seen God....there was a lil gurl((i dunno her its an e-mail)) who lost her parents...she was 4 years old....she was adopted by a single woman....this lil gurl was never a Christian n had never been to a church....the first time in Sunday school a lady held up a pic of what we THINK Jesus looks like and asked "does anyone know who this is?" and the lil gurl who have never been to church replied "i do! its the Man who held me the night my parents died."
many have seen Jesus....perhaps not since u have been alive...but we see His works everyday....and i dont have to prove anything or give u any proof.....i know im going to Heaven n i know one day if u dunt believe u'll b sorry.

[ComradeRed]

u cant prove us wrong either....and many ppl have seen God....there was a lil gurl((i dunno her its an e-mail)) who lost her parents...she was 4 years old....she was adopted by a single woman....this lil gurl was never a Christian n had never been to a church....the first time in Sunday school a lady held up a pic of what we THINK Jesus looks like and asked "does anyone know who this is?" and the lil gurl who have never been to church replied "i do! its the Man who held me the night my parents died."
many have seen Jesus....perhaps not since u have been alive...but we see His works everyday....and i dont have to prove anything or give u any proof.....i know im going to Heaven n i know one day if u dunt believe u'll b sorry.

u cant prove us wrong either....and many ppl have seen Allah....there was a lil gurl((i dunno her its an e-mail)) who lost her parents...she was 4 years old....she was adopted by a single woman....this lil gurl was never a Moslem n had never been to Mecca....the first time in Sunday school a lady held up a pic of what we THINK Mohammed looks like and asked "does anyone know who this is?" and the lil gurl who have never been to church replied "i do! its the Man who held me the night my parents died."
many have seen Allah....perhaps not since u have been alive...but we see His works everyday....and i dont have to prove anything or give u any proof.....i know im going to Heaven n i know one day if u dunt believe u'll b sorry.

[*[2]Nekked*]

u cant prove us wrong either....and many ppl have seen God....there was a lil gurl((i dunno her its an e-mail)) who lost her parents...she was 4 years old....she was adopted by a single woman....this lil gurl was never a Christian n had never been to a church....the first time in Sunday school a lady held up a pic of what we THINK Jesus looks like and asked "does anyone know who this is?" and the lil gurl who have never been to church replied "i do! its the Man who held me the night my parents died."
many have seen Jesus....perhaps not since u have been alive...but we see His works everyday....and i dont have to prove anything or give u any proof.....i know im going to Heaven n i know one day if u dunt believe u'll b sorry.

this is a debate. meaning you are trying to proove he does exist. so yes. you do need to prove it if u are going to post anything in this thread.

[princess2113]

u cant prove us wrong either....and many ppl have seen Allah....there was a lil gurl((i dunno her its an e-mail)) who lost her parents...she was 4 years old....she was adopted by a single woman....this lil gurl was never a Moslem n had never been to Mecca....the first time in Sunday school a lady held up a pic of what we THINK Mohammed looks like and asked "does anyone know who this is?" and the lil gurl who have never been to church replied "i do! its the Man who held me the night my parents died."
many have seen Allah....perhaps not since u have been alive...but we see His works everyday....and i dont have to prove anything or give u any proof.....i know im going to Heaven n i know one day if u dunt believe u'll b sorry.

haha u need to get sume facts....muslims go to worship on fridays n classes on saturdays...they dunt have sunday school


[QUOTE]this is a debate. meaning you are trying to proove he does exist. so yes. you do need to prove it if u are going to post anything in this thread.
well u dunt ever write ANYTHING pretaining to this thread thx u very much.....pick on urself for once

[*[2]Nekked*]

if u mean when im yelling at u to stop double posting, well thats my JOB and im entitled to do it.

[princess2113]

Nekked,Jun 4 2004, 2:36 PM] if u mean when im yelling at u to stop double posting, well thats my JOB and im entitled to do it.

ur yelling at me???????? and i mean u never post abt the topic...y dunt u write what u feel abt this stuff we discuss ((and plz dunt have ur sister write me again))

[*[2]Nekked*]

ur yelling at me???????? and i mean u never post abt the topic...y dunt u write what u feel abt this stuff we discuss ((and plz dunt have ur sister write me again))

first of all i did not HAVE my sister write to you. she did that of her own free will. second, you need to wake the frick up. i've already told you why i dont debate in this thread. because i dont feel the need to put down anyone elses faith. third. if you think the forum rules dont apply to you and you're going to just get away with anything you like, you are DEAD WRONG. i have given you amp warning of what will happen if you continue to disregard the guidelines, and what the mods have enforced, so the NEXT time you choose to disrespect me or ANYONE ELSE, i WILL suspend your account, and you can take it up with an admin if you have a problem with this.

[*Kathleen*]

Yes, please princess. I've been reading the last few posts, and I don't want you to put down anyone else's faith, as [2]Nekked told you. I'm with her on this as well.

[princess2113]

Nekked,Jun 4 2004, 2:42 PM] first of all i did not HAVE my sister write to you. she did that of her own free will. second, you need to wake the frick up. i've already told you why i dont debate in this thread. because i dont feel the need to put down anyone elses faith. third. if you think the forum rules dont apply to you and you're going to just get away with anything you like, you are DEAD WRONG. i have given you amp warning of what will happen if you continue to disregard the guidelines, and what the mods have enforced, so the NEXT time you choose to disrespect me or ANYONE ELSE, i WILL suspend your account, and you can take it up with an admin if you have a problem with this.

1st of all ive apologized enough....im not disrespecting u im actually asking what u believe n u can say in a nice way that u dunt choose to write abt ur faith...i didnt know that n once AGAIN i apologize...o and btw i DID take it up with an administrator and i realize the rules apply to every1...n every1 is double posting yet im the only one being threatened n i think thats b/c of the position i defend here

now....on topic again.....if the big bang happened then we formed frum apes? and the first ape was made frum bacteria? which grew on rocks.....but how did it grow there....sumething has to be there for it to grow...bacteria grows in dark WET places...who put the water there


and btw if im putting down pplz faith then r u saying all those ppl who r trying to make fun of Muslims arent? i realize u guys r friends so just stop off pleaseeeee

[*krnxswat*]

maybe if someones prayer was answered. give me an example of that, and it will lead me on my way to believing.

Please, there's thousands and thousands of stories out on the net, or even books. Try Chicken soup for the Christian souls.

geez, were bad people, arent we? cause we dont believe in God..were so horrible..

Oh, please. Where in my post did I ever use the word "bad" or "horrible"?

se0n h0 st0p d0uble p0sting, y0!!

Haha. Sorry, I didn't realize it cause I was so into it.

[ComradeRed]

If we all just killed everyone who didn't believe in Allah, we wouldn't have any of these problems.

[princess2113]

If we all just killed everyone who didn't believe in Allah, we wouldn't have any of these problems.

notice who is being rude plz! this is sacreligious yet b/c he doesnt defend the Christian God he is permitted to b that way

if u killed every1 who didnt believe in Allah that is Sooni Muslamic belief ((i think i spelled it right)) and thats what they think u shuld do to have higher rank in heaven.....more ppl u kill while killing urself the higher in heaven u place

[ComradeRed]

No, it's the Wahabi Belief. Wahabism is a subsect of Sunni Islam. Either way, you are all the Great Satan and must die by your own sword.

"The Infidels will sell us the very wood that we will burn them with."
--The Great Saladin

[*CEP*]

notice who is being rude plz! this is sacreligious yet b/c he doesnt defend the Christian God he is permitted to b that way

if u killed every1 who didnt believe in Allah that is Sooni Muslamic belief ((i think i spelled it right)) and thats what they think u shuld do to have higher rank in heaven.....more ppl u kill while killing urself the higher in heaven u place

Meh. He's funny and he's smart.
And I don't know, maybe he's just expressing hiw views?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[*[2]Nekked*]

1st of all ive apologized enough....im not disrespecting u im actually asking what u believe n u can say in a nice way that u dunt choose to write abt ur faith...i didnt know that n once AGAIN i apologize...o and btw i DID take it up with an administrator and i realize the rules apply to every1...n every1 is double posting yet im the only one being threatened n i think thats b/c of the position i defend here

now....on topic again.....if the big bang happened then we formed frum apes? and the first ape was made frum bacteria? which grew on rocks.....but how did it grow there....sumething has to be there for it to grow...bacteria grows in dark WET places...who put the water there


and btw if im putting down pplz faith then r u saying all those ppl who r trying to make fun of Muslims arent? i realize u guys r friends so just stop off pleaseeeee

the hell do u mean u didnt know that i didnt want to debate?? I told you in a pm!!!
and no. at first i was telling EVERYONE not to double post since it was brought up, i was reminding people. YOU were the one that chose to take it personally.

end of discussion.