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[princess2113]

Ah, I see.

But I'm not a science wiz, I'm just an amateur philosopher, so I have no idea how the human body is formed.

Anyway, I don't think the human body is so 'neatly planned out' as you've said, because remember our talk about the babies being deformed?

We look different because of our genes ... (pfft, as if that wasn't obvious already... but don't harass me cuz I suck in science. )

ok but those babies r still pretty in ways...they can still have soooo much inner beauty....n i think its neatly planned out as in like carefully planned out like how sume1 had to think abt our bones moving
i mean its really amazing when u think abt it.....we can walk n talk n hear..bla bla bla i mean how does that happen frum an explosion...n we all like interpret things differantly so we r differant on the inside...so if the same thing happened to all of us.......how come we r differant

was that real confusing?

[*CEP*]

ok but those babies r still pretty in ways...they can still have soooo much inner beauty....

True, but what about the really mean ones that hit you with their wheelchair? Were they just mistakes?

n i think its neatly planned out as in like carefully planned out like how sume1 had to think abt our bones moving

Actually, your bones grow. They don't move. A single cell divides into trillions, which clump up to form specific tissues for specific things. If they moved, then the organs would be deformed because of the smole enclosure in the fetus.

i mean its really amazing when u think abt it.....we can walk n talk n hear..bla bla bla i mean how does that happen frum an explosion...n we all like interpret things differantly so we r differant on the inside...so if the same thing happened to all of us.......how come we r differant

The Big Bang didn't do that to us. Our differences are caused by well, ourselves. We are different because of the different experiences we have throughout life. And our brain, being as complex as it is, would ofcourse be different. So, sure, we were all formed the same, but it's what comes after next that makes us...us.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[oOyunieOo]

ok but those babies r still pretty in ways...they can still have soooo much inner beauty....n i think its neatly planned out as in like carefully planned out like how sume1 had to think abt our bones moving
i mean its really amazing when u think abt it.....we can walk n talk n hear..bla bla bla i mean how does that happen frum an explosion...n we all like interpret things differantly so we r differant on the inside...so if the same thing happened to all of us.......how come we r differant

was that real confusing?

Not one bit! I totally agree-- to see all of the little microscopic things. The cell's organelles and energy transfer, the chemical reactions happen perfectly for us to live... it is not random chance. Random chance does not produce life.

[princess2113]

True, but what about the really mean ones that hit you with their wheelchair? Were they just mistakes?


Actually, your bones grow. They don't move. A single cell divides into trillions, which clump up to form specific tissues for specific things. If they moved, then the organs would be deformed because of the smole enclosure in the fetus.


The Big Bang didn't do that to us. Our differences are caused by well, ourselves. We are different because of the different experiences we have throughout life. And our brain, being as complex as it is, would ofcourse be different. So, sure, we were all formed the same, but it's what comes after next that makes us...us.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

no every1 has sume kinda beauty

i mean like when u move....walk, jump...bla bla bla

yes but if all our brains were formed the same exact way b/c our ancestors were formed frum the big bang y do we have differances?

[Spirited Away]

no every1 has sume kinda beauty

i mean like when u move....walk, jump...bla bla bla

yes but if all our brains were formed the same exact way b/c our ancestors were formed frum the big bang y do we have differances?

He just explained that we gained our differences through experiencing life in different ways. Which is true.

What kind of differences do you mean? Like our skin color and physical attributes?

[oOyunieOo]

The Big Bang didn't do that to us. Our differences are caused by well, ourselves. We are different because of the different experiences we have throughout life. And our brain, being as complex as it is, would ofcourse be different. So, sure, we were all formed the same, but it's what comes after next that makes us...us.

Ok, we cause our differences?? Isn't that a little bit circular? And what are you talking about when "what comes after us makes us...us."? According to you we cause our own differences....... Something had to cause us, and What caused us had to make us different.

[*CEP*]

yes but if all our brains were formed the same exact way b/c our ancestors were formed frum the big bang y do we have differances?

No, they weren't. They were like us. All diverse and different.
They also weren't formed from the Big Bang, mind you. The Big Bang is just a theory of how the Universe formed. It didn't make humans. It didn't make animals. All it did was form matter.

And MAYBE our brains were formed in the exact same way, but that doesn't mean that they would function the same. Nothing's alike.
Hell, maybe the cloned sheep, but they're different.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[Spirited Away]

Ok, we cause our differences?? Isn't that a little bit circular? And what are you talking about when "what comes after us makes us...us."? According to you we cause our own differences....... Something had to cause us, and What caused us had to make us different.

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We are different because we live different lives. I see things one way and you see things another way. Our interpretations of certain things are different. My parents taught me one thing and yours taught you another...

We form our characters as we live.

Unless you mean differences in skin color... etc.

[*CEP*]

Ok, we cause our differences?? Isn't that a little bit circular? And what are you talking about when "what comes after us makes us...us."? According to you we cause our own differences....... Something had to cause us, and What caused us had to make us different.

Okay, a person asks you to pick red or blue.
You pick blue.
Now, wasn't it you that got YOU to pick that color?

That's how we make ourselves different. We make unique choices.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[oOyunieOo]

No, they weren't. They were like us. All diverse and different.
They also weren't formed from the Big Bang, mind you. The Big Bang is just a theory of how the Universe formed. It didn't make humans. It didn't make animals. All it did was form matter.

And MAYBE our brains were formed in the exact same way, but that doesn't mean that they would function the same. Nothing's alike.
Hell, maybe the cloned sheep, but they're different.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

I think the point is is that we are so detailed, down to everyone's individual expressions, responses....
"The circumstances of life, the events of life, and the people around me in life, do not make me the way I am , but reveal the way I am."
---Dr. Sam L. Peeples, Jr.

[oOyunieOo]

Okay, a person asks you to pick red or blue.
You pick blue.
Now, wasn't it you that got YOU to pick that color?

That's how we make ourselves different. We make unique choices.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

But something had to make us think that way. It gets down to the beginning... Something must have made my unique thought process.

[Spirited Away]

I think the point is is that we are so detailed, down to everyone's individual expressions, responses....
"The circumstances of life, the events of life, and the people around me in life, do not make me the way I am , but reveal the way I am."
---Dr. Sam L. Peeples, Jr.

I can easily say that the events of life, and the people around me in life helped to shape my character.

[oOyunieOo]

I can easily say that the events of life, and the people around me in life helped to shape my character.

Yeah, but they show you what you are... how you respond... they don't make your character, your character is revealed.

[*krnxswat*]

I can easily say that the events of life, and the people around me in life helped to shape my character.

Which brings us down into the nature vs nurture theory.

[Spirited Away]

Yeah, but they show you what you are... how you respond... they don't make your character, your character is revealed.

So you're saying that character is innate? Nature over nurture?

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Which brings us down into the nature vs nurture theory.  

Dang, you beat me to it.

[oOyunieOo]

So you're saying that character is innate? Nature over nurture?

Ok. I'm not saying that events in life don't affect the way you live. I believe we were created with a prupose, and with unique natural abilities to fulfill that. I'm saying that nature doesn't shape those abilities we were born with.

[*CEP*]

I think the point is is that we are so detailed, down to everyone's individual expressions, responses....

Yeah, okay, all of those are still influenced by all of your experiences in life. For example: A bratty child would be bratty because he/she would be spoiled, while his/her sibling would be really shy and modest because of how their parents treat them.

^ Yeah, pretty vauge, but what can you do?

But something had to make us think that way. It gets down to the beginning... Something must have made my unique thought process.

Okay, that something was you.
Seriously now, do you actually think there are little angels on your shoulder telling you to chose blue? If that's the case, then you weren't really chosing, now where you? Someone else was chosing for you.
And if you say yes, then will you please tell me how it is being a puppet?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[Spirited Away]

Ok. I'm not saying that events in life don't affect the way you live. I believe we were created with a prupose, and with unique natural abilities to fulfill that. I'm saying that nature doesn't shape those abilities we were born with.

Abilities? Examples?

Like... someone being more musically inclinded than others?

[princess2113]

I think the reason we are all so differant is b/c an awesome God above created each of us special ((sound like a kindgergarden teacher... woahhh)) i mean the rest of it doesnt make sense to me....but God does....i mean He has power to do anything and everything so it makes sense that He could create us as indivduals....but i mean an explosion...the same thing must have happened rite to everyone that was "created" by it....so y is everyone not identical? yes i mean partly like genetics....so u say genes...i take u back further now...how did our ancestors get differant genese in the first place? if the explosion happened shuldnt they all b the same?

[oOyunieOo]

Okay, that something was you.
Seriously now, do you actually think there are little angels on your shoulder telling you to chose blue? If that's the case, then you weren't really chosing, now where you? Someone else was chosing for you.
And if you say yes, then will you please tell me how it is being a puppet?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

Please, I"m not THAT stupid.... I"m syaing that GOd formed me the way I am and He intended me to be that way from the beginning.

[Spirited Away]

i take u back further now...how did our ancestors get differant genese in the first place? if the explosion happened shuldnt they all b the same?

An explosion denotes chaos, perhaps our genes were in chaos and chose to form differently? (that's the quickest I can think of right now )

<-- illerate in science remember?

Anyway, no one has answered me... what do you mean by 'the same' and 'differences'? As in character or genetics?

[*CEP*]

Please, I"m not THAT stupid.... I"m syaing that GOd formed me the way I am and He intended me to be that way from the beginning.

So if he had that power, then why don't I believe in him?
Why does he persecute those who doesn't believe in him?
Didn't he have the power to control the way we were from the begining?
And I meant no offense from what I said earlier. Just trying to make a point. Thousand apologies if it offended you in any way, shape, or form.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[oOyunieOo]

Abilities? Examples?

Like... someone being more musically inclinded than others?

yep... leadership, communication, intellect.................

[princess2113]

An explosion denotes chaos, perhaps our genes were in chaos and chose to form differently? (that's the quickest I can think of right now  )

<-- illerate in science remember?

Anyway, no one has answered me... what do you mean by 'the same' and 'differences'? As in character or genetics?

i answered u lol i said both...like if u wanna say genes then how come all genese rnt the same?? n if its individuality tell me its b/c u make ur own choices but how come all our brains dunt make the same ones if they r created differantly...n if its b/c we r taught differantly by parents or whom ever....how come all the teachers have differant ways off teaching?

[QUOTE]So if he had that power, then why don't I believe in him?
Why does he persecute those who doesn't believe in him?
Didn't he have the power to control the way we were from the begining?
And I meant no offense from what I said earlier. Just trying to make a point. Thousand apologies if it offended you in any way, shape, or form.

*b/c He gives you freewill
*The reason u go to hell is b/c God cant be near evil...on the cross Jesus said "my *Father why have You forsaken me" it was b/c God culdnt bear to see all that eveil cast upon His Son...
*yes, and He gave us freewill frum then...even in the garden...n He banned Adam n Eve b/c they went against His will...He punished them yet loved them

[Spirited Away]

Why does he persecute those who doesn't believe in him?

A very good point.

yep... leadership, communication, intellect.................

Then how would we even know we have those abilities if we never got a chance to discover them. As in, if I have the innate ability to swim real well, but I live in a desert all my life and had no access to a large body of water and learn this ability... what's the point?