Abortion Options

[sammi rules you]

I]m totally against abortion unless it is fatal to the mothers health...PRO-LIFE all the way...but u better face the fact...1 out of every 4 babies are aborted...and only 1% of abortion was because of rape o incest...and i think about 2% is because of the mothers health... the other 97% is because the mother didn't want the baby..this baby culd have been the president, a scientist who discover a cure for cancer....so i'm totally pro life

i could be a president too. your point?..anyone can..

it depends on how the child is brought up. their intelligence is only as strong as the intelligence they get fed. if the mother is unable to feed the child adequately or send them to school or get them the sufficient amount of clothing, they wouldn't become president or a scientist or anything. they'd just be a miserable child.

[butterscotcho123]

i am pro-choice. I think the girl/woman should have the right to choose what to do with the baby, (more like a bunch of cells). Even if she has an abortion it doesn't mean she's not taking responsibilty with what happened, if she really doesn't want the child then in a way she is helping it. I wouldn't want to grow up knowing that i was going to be killed but was saved because of the government. Actually, its not a question of killing and saving. Its a question of choice. Its completely up to the girl to choose and abortion should be available and allowed for everyone, especially rape victims.

[sadolakced acid]

goody for you! you know what you think!

do you know what i thinK? i think this is a debate forum and i'd like to see some debating.

so, here are a few points for pro choice:


1. if abortion were only legal in cases of rape or incess, abortion clinics would close and you couldn't get one even in cases of rape of incess.

2. current legislations that Bush wants passed do not allow for the mother's health

3. A fetus is a parasite living off the mother, and thus is under her control.

4. If you go to an abortion clinic they try to show you the ultrasound and stuff to get you to keep the baby.

5. there's always canada and mexico if it's illegal stateside

6. this is a major life changing event, a baby is. how can the government regulate that? it's kind of like you need a birth licence to have a kid, except on the other side.


now, please argue.

[Teesa]

goody for you! you know what you think!

do you know what i thinK? i think this is a debate forum and i'd like to see some debating.

so, here are a few points for pro choice:


1. if abortion were only legal in cases of rape or incess, abortion clinics would close and you couldn't get one even in cases of rape of incess.

2. current legislations that Bush wants passed do not allow for the mother's health

3. A fetus is a parasite living off the mother, and thus is under her control.

4. If you go to an abortion clinic they try to show you the ultrasound and stuff to get you to keep the baby.

5. there's always canada and mexico if it's illegal stateside

6. this is a major life changing event, a baby is. how can the government regulate that? it's kind of like you need a birth licence to have a kid, except on the other side.


now, please argue.

yes i completely agree with all your points..it's "incest", not incess.

[sadolakced acid]

you're talking to a guy who misspells his own name.

[OriskybusinessO]

I would say i'm pro choice, but someone at the top of this post said pro choice does not equal pro abortion. I think everyone should have the right to kill THEIR un born child. I think thats great, i see no problem with killing something that you dont even know what sex it is, and its like negative 9 months old. People always complain about killing something that could be the next Einstien or something. Well, ya know what you can do anything you set your mind to if YOU try.

Bring it on fellow debaters

[ryfitaDF]

i haev an idea. instead of getting rid of abortions, get rid if a reason for them.

don't f**k unless you want a kid. simple as that.

[starfaerie06]

I'm pro-choice. I think that it's the woman's right to choose whether she wants to be a mother and go through all that crap... I wouldn't get an abortion though. Not unless I was raped or I would endanger myself by keeping the baby (like if the fetus started growing in my felopian (spelling??) tube...)

[sadolakced acid]

i'm pretty sure that all that what happens then is the fallopian tube ruptures...

hmm. i just noticed your avatar. the lyrics are my imortal.

[demolished]

i dont see what is really wrong w/ it. even the baby wasnt meant to be born, i dont think someone should take away a baby's life. thats why theres adoptions are for .. " unwanted child " but people can adopt them ..

[sadolakced acid]

adoption is one of those things that we thing works but would rather not have anything to do with. for example, people say adoption is the alternative to abortion, but they don't adopt, nor do they become a foster home.

btw, your post makes absolutly no sense.

[ghjgfkgfk]

I]m totally against abortion unless it is fatal to the mothers health...PRO-LIFE all the way...but u better face the fact...1 out of every 4 babies are aborted...and only 1% of abortion was because of rape o incest...and i think about 2% is because of the mothers health... the other 97% is because the mother didn't want the baby..this baby culd have been the president, a scientist who discover a cure for cancer....so i'm totally pro life

you're stupid.
what about the mother? what if she could of been president or a scientist? but maybe she couldn't because her time went to caring for a baby?
anyone can be a scientist or president.

edit//
about adoption. not everybody gets adopted can get a good life. there are enough unwanted KIDS (note, i said KIDS not babies) there who don't get adopted because people don't want to adopt kids. they want cute babies. they've been in an adoption center for too long. no one wants a kid. it's like when a little kid says they want a dog. no. they don't want a dog, they want a puppy.

[Comptine]

I'm for the pro-choice. The mother is the one who has to carry the baby for 9 months. Not you. Not Bush. Not anyone else but the mother. How about taking that into consideration?

Those who are saying that if the mother doesn't want a baby, shouldn't have sex unless they have the money or are ready to procreate. What about a husband and wife who do use condoms but end up having a baby? You can't limit the readiness of a pregnancy in two reasons. There are surprises.

And not to offend anyone, but it pisses me off that you think the baby would have a good life. Every year, kids in adopted and foster families get abused. And even if the mother keeps the baby, how do you think the kid would react when he/she finds out his/her father was a rapist?


I'm for pro-choice because the option should remain open to women. Even if it was because of the women's carelessness, the option should still remain open. We don't have the authority to tell women what's right or wrong when it comes to their pregnancy. If abortion was banned, you're basicaly forcing women to carry the baby. And THAT is a serious voliation of their freedom.

[starfaerie06]

i'm pretty sure that all that what happens then is the fallopian tube ruptures...

hmm.  i just noticed your avatar.  the lyrics are my imortal.

a lot of the time when the falopian tube ruptures you either die or have a complete historecomy [spelling??] and can't have any more kids and have to be put on drugs.

Emergency surgery is needed if a fallopian tube ruptures with heavy bleeding. Bleeding is stopped and the ruptured fallopian tube and remnant of the early pregnancy are removed. This means only one fallopian tube remains. However, the operation is often life saving

[sadolakced acid]

yes; but if the fallopian tube ruptures an abortion wouldn't be needed, would it?

[miss barnes]

I'm PRO-LIFE. I believe that everyone deserves a chance to live. Whether the mother wants them or not, they deserve a chance. Adoption agencies can take care of the unwanted. Like plenty of people have said, I believe that from the time of conception, that is a person.

I understand that in the case of rape or incest a girl may not want the baby but that doenst mean that she should abort it. She can give it up for adoption.

I would say a lot more but, i'm not in the typing mood

[cAnIhAvsUmrIcEpl...]

Abortion is something I'm really against!!! Actually I learned something about abortion today... in India out of 8,000 Abortions on;y one was a boy... that would also get me talking about the qualities of life in such areas including culture and traditional values but I mean the fact that so many UNBORN babies are killed because they don't turn out the way you want them to??? What is up with that... If you don't want a baby don't have sex. It's as easy as that. If your raped then what happens happens let the child live and if you can't take care of it then leave it in a adoption agency. And for all of you people who are Christian , well you don't even have to be you just have to have faith, God doesn't give you anything he doesn't think you can handle.

~FRANCiS

[starfaerie06]

Adoption isn't nessisarily a good thing. Children are adopted into bad homes everyday. And a lot of children don't get adopted and they go from foster house to foster house their whole lives... That's no way to live.

[Azn Kid from NY]

i am pro-choice...and for all u teenage girls who are against...y dont u put urself in the shoes of a raped 16 year old girl..wouldnt u want to give her another chance to live on her life as it was and still have a future ahead of her?......or are u gonna COMPLETELY RUIN HER WHOLE LIFE AND FORCE HER TO GO THROUGH THE PAINFUL PROCESS OF GIVING BIRTH TO A CHILD AND THEN RAISING IT?....

just think about, and put urself in her shoes

[ghetosmurph]

But what about in a situation of rape or insest?

Abortion is never right. I know people that were the result of a rape and they are great people, just the same as you and me, now they lobby against the aborton of babies from rape victims b/c they are ones. There are other options anyway! You can put the Baby up for adoption for example. Abortion is not an option. You cannot kill an innocent life for your benifit, no matter what. Anyway, studies show that women who have abortions generally have higher rates of breast cancer and are traumatized for life. That isn't to te woman's benefit at all. I personally don't even condone contraception. You make your choice to either have sex or not. If you dont want a kid dont have sex! It is that simple! Those few little cells are alive! Kill it then but it's fine but kill it 9 months later, and it's murder? That dosen't make sense at all! Abortion is wrong at any stage, no if ands or buts about it.

Note to all Catholics: It goes against Dogma's of the Church to support Abortion and be a Catholic. It is an Excommunicatable offense for those of you that did't know that

[sadolakced acid]

But, if the government can regulate that you must have the baby if pregnate: could they regulate your sex life?

is not this a private matter?

does the government regulate whether or not..... nevermind. i was going to say marry. but then i remebered gay marragies and the incess thing.

anyways.

i think you will agree that a baby is a big thing. not trivial. and it is also private.

and should not it stay private?

[starfaerie06]

Anyway, studies show that women who have abortions generally have higher rates of breast cancer and are traumatized for life.

They're traumatized because of people harassing them for the "sins" they've commited. 95% of people's reasons for being against abortion are religious.

[racoons > you]

The crux of the debate on abortion seems to revolve around the idea of whether or not and unborn foetus can be considered a living human being, and therefore deserves protection or not.

I personally believe that an abortion for lifestyle's sake is disgusting, but in a case of rape or severe handicap, it can be acceptable.

what does everyone think?

[*tweeak*]

i think that theres abortion topics already. tsk tsk james. but ill merge this since you gave your stand

[racoons > you]

shut up nicki.

I'm PRO-LIFE. I believe that everyone deserves a chance to live. Whether the mother wants them or not, they deserve a chance. Adoption agencies can take care of the unwanted.

Yes, but if every unborn foetus which would have been aborted was born and put up for adoption, the system would go into overload, it wouldn't cope.

And adoption ainn't so great

just this week there was a case of a couple who killed there newly adopted 4 year old son b/c he wasn't adjusting quick enough for them by force feeding him salt