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sadolakced acid
post Jul 31 2004, 06:19 PM
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i said most, if you notice.

because most people don't want the trouble.
 
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post Aug 1 2004, 08:34 PM
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post Aug 2 2004, 07:39 AM
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What if you have lung cancer and breathing is really hard?

The point is life isn't always preferable to death for all people...
 
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post Aug 2 2004, 11:29 AM
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life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate.

i don't see why people like it that much.
 
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post Aug 2 2004, 11:31 AM
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Good point...
 
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post Aug 6 2004, 03:56 PM
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the fetus cannot live for itself. with all the medical technology in the world, the fetus will not survive if the mother dies.

do you call this life?
 
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post Aug 6 2004, 05:58 PM
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im both in favor and against it. when you have sex and get pregnant its your fault take care of it. but what if YOU were the one that got pregnant and you want to get rid of it just to save your oh so pure ego then you'd be a hyprocrite
 
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post Aug 8 2004, 03:37 PM
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i think that abortion is wrong unless ur a (example) 13 yr. old with a kid or sumthin....but i think tht abortion is killing and it is wrong. _unsure.gif
 
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post Aug 8 2004, 06:12 PM
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alright, now support your opinion.


life isn't all it's cut out to be.
 
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post Aug 8 2004, 07:17 PM
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against.. prolly not for rape tho... but i mean the child can always be traced bak to his father thru dna
 
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post Aug 8 2004, 07:27 PM
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I support abortion.

the goverment should have NO place to ban them or decide for women what they are allowed to do w. their body.

if a woman is raped, they should be allowed to give up the baby.
if it threatens her life
if the baby wont have a good chance of surviving
if the woman doesnt feel like she can support the child
and many other situation=a woman should have the choice of abortion.

and about adoption-do you know how HARD it would be to decide to have an abortion let alone have someone tell you to go thru with having the baby and then give it away?? there are many emotions that half of those people out there who are against it have no clue about.
 
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post Aug 8 2004, 07:37 PM
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most people don't like abortion, but want nothing to do with the baby that comes as the alternative.
 
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post Aug 19 2004, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 12 2004, 6:49 PM)
Young woman, who were raped or desperate enough to kill the fetus, will find ways to have an abortion. They could die in an ally trying to do it themselves.

i agree. if abortions are banned everywhere, women are still goin to find a way to have one, from shoving a hanger up there to puncture the sac, to drinkin toxins... i'd rather see them get one in a controlled enviornment where there are far less risks than doing it in an alley...

i think that having an abortion should be entireley up to the mother, WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT ABORTION ISNT RIGHT, dont say because of your religion, because everyone is different.

what about all of these religious people outside the abortion clinics picketing with signs that say "murderer" and "abortion is killing" AS IF HAVING THE ACTUAL ABORTION ISNT ENOUGH TRAUMA you have these women screaming at you calling you a murderer and crap like that...
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 07:38 AM
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if a woman is raped, they should be allowed to give up the baby.
if the woman doesnt feel like she can support the child

As I said before (I believe in another thread), they can give it up for adoption. I mean, yes, it's not the mother's fault, but it's not the baby's fault either. Half of that baby is still the mother's.
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if it threatens her life
if the baby wont have a good chance of surviving

If my best friend's mom would've gotten an abortion because of that, she'd be dead. There are medical mistakes made all the time. My best friend was going to come out with a horrible physical handicap, and was even told she might die. Thankfully, her mom cared enough for her to go through with the pregnancy and have her child. She came out perfectly healthy. As for the mother not being healthy, we have come far from the middle ages and have new medicines and machines that would help the baby's mother. It's rare that a mother would die from her child nowadays.
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and about adoption-do you know how HARD it would be to decide to have an abortion let alone have someone tell you to go thru with having the baby and then give it away?? there are many emotions that half of those people out there who are against it have no clue about.

Yes, but if they couldn't support it, then they'd love it enough to give it up to an adoption agency, where they'd have a roof over there head and food on their table.
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i agree. if abortions are banned everywhere, women are still goin to find a way to have one, from shoving a hanger up there to puncture the sac, to drinkin toxins... i'd rather see them get one in a controlled enviornment where there are far less risks than doing it in an alley...

Um...people take quite harmful illegal drugs everyday in dark alleys. There's nothing we can do to stop it. Yet, legal things are done in other places as well. Take plastic surgery for example. People are going to Mexico to get breast implants out of our country and getting horrible results. Plastic surgery is legal, of course, and yet, there are still people going to other places to get it done. Sometimes, there's nothing you can do about it.
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i think that having an abortion should be entireley up to the mother, WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT ABORTION ISNT RIGHT, dont say because of your religion, because everyone is different.

what about all of these religious people outside the abortion clinics picketing with signs that say "murderer" and "abortion is killing" AS IF HAVING THE ACTUAL ABORTION ISNT ENOUGH TRAUMA you have these women screaming at you calling you a murderer and crap like that...

That is such a stereotype right there. Get this - I'm an atheist. I never grew up in a Christian, conservative family. I'm against abortion. wink.gif
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 10:07 AM
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Um...people take quite harmful illegal drugs everyday in dark alleys.


im talking about drinking chemicals and crap like that great one

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i think that having an abortion should be entireley up to the mother, WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT ABORTION ISNT RIGHT, dont say because of your religion, because everyone is different.

notice how i said because of your religion


point is; they'll still find ways to get er done, it would be healtheir for everyone to make them legal
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 10:48 AM
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Okay, forget my whole drug argument thing. I didn't quite finish it. pinch.gif But, I pointed out a scenario (which happens everyday) that proves just because something is legal doesn't mean it's going to stop people from doing it the illegal way. Hence, people will try to get an abortion illegally no matter if it's legal or not.
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 01:14 PM
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If the "child" is killed before it even exists, it never lived, it never will live, therefore it makes no difference to the child. Killing an ant, in terms of pain (not in terms of significance), would be worse than killing an unborn and not even technically alive child.
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 06:06 PM
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If the "child" is killed before it even exists, it never lived, it never will live, therefore it makes no difference to the child. Killing an ant, in terms of pain (not in terms of significance), would be worse than killing an unborn and not even technically alive child.

I'm talking about more than pain. I'm talking about a future for the child. That child could make a difference in the world that would alter it forever. And, we can't really argue about if it's "life" yet in the womb because everyone's view is quite different that way. I see it as...something was created inside the body; it'll eventually grow up and become human.
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Aug 20 2004, 10:48 AM)
Okay, forget my whole drug argument thing. I didn't quite finish it. pinch.gif But, I pointed out a scenario (which happens everyday) that proves just because something is legal doesn't mean it's going to stop people from doing it the illegal way. Hence, people will try to get an abortion illegally no matter if it's legal or not.

This is going to be kind of tough to rebuttle, but here goes... This argument mostly apply to sick and/or diseased women.

Yes, people will do it regardless of the law, but there will be fewer women who'd consider harming themselves by doing it in alley or going to somewhere less safe, when there is a sanitized, certified, legal alternative.

The thing that bothers me most is how impossible it would be to filter out desperation from irresponsibility. I believe in the saying "you've made your bed, you lie in it" and "you reap what you sow"... but some women sincerely deserve help, while others just deserve a good lashing because they take life too lightly.

But the the anti-abortion law doesn't take the human condition into consideration. That we are mortal and prone to mistakes would not even be looked at because once we break the law, we're in the wrong. But being "wrong" can sometimes just mean valuing your own life over the life of your unborn child. This may be viewed as selfish, but it can also be said to be a HUMAN's wish for survival.



I just realize this doesn't make much sense if you're not me........ oh well happy.gif.

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I'm talking about more than pain. I'm talking about a future for the child. That child could make a difference in the world that would alter it forever. And, we can't really argue about if it's "life" yet in the womb because everyone's view is quite different that way. I see it as...something was created inside the body; it'll eventually grow up and become human.

Remember that if we're saying an abortion can prevent a certain future, the same can be said about contraceptions... (some one pwned me using this in an extensive debate in Ethics class pinch.gif)... I guess you can say that contraception isn't the same as abortion because it doesn't require killing a life... but then we'd have to consider the question: when does life begin? pinch.gif I think I'm just trying to confuse myself....
 
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post Aug 21 2004, 01:23 AM
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this is a really hard topic..because sometimes it deals with rape...or cases or incest u noe...but i dont really believe in abortion. i dont like the thought...to me is like killing someone....u've created something inside of you..growing n now u wanna get rid of it because its unwanted...i hear alot girls/women who go thru the abortion n they go in a deep depression because they've lost something. but if i was in that position..im not sure wat i'd do..for the time being...i wouldnt abort
 
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post Aug 22 2004, 07:21 PM
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TOTALLY aginast... argh...d ont' feel like typing much kuz the backyard neighbors are having' a party.. new neighbors... odn't lyke..
 
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post Aug 22 2004, 07:26 PM
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Burn their house down.
 
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post Aug 29 2004, 01:09 PM
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i'm for abortion cuz it's the person's decision whether they wanna keep the baby or not
 
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post Sep 2 2004, 03:55 PM
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well what if its a health reason, girls can die from becomin pregnant but i say it was your choice live with it, but then again us females need to stand up for our right its our body so it should be our choice but the way things are going it looks like we wont have that choice for very long
 
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ABORTION?? itz so0 cruel!! if ur havin a babii, either u wunt it or not, but if u dont wunt it, abortion shouldn't evn come to mynd! I mean at least put the babii up for adoption, cauz ya kno, they r human beinz readi to grow up n experience thyngz n to step out in2 the wurld, they should have a chance to experience thyngz that we have!! ABORTION iz prob. the cruelest thyng evr.. if ur 11 n pregnant or 15 n pregnant, dont thyng uv abortion, cauz thatz juss basicalli on the lynez uv murder, but if u put it up for adoption, u wont have to deal wit it if u dont wunna n it can styll live a good lyf .. my god!!!!

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