your top 5 dead or alive rappers Options

[illumineering]

In no particular order...

Run-D.M.C.

Grandmaster Flash

LL Cool J

Beastie Boys

Cypress Hill

No whining because I'm choosing some groups.

[yo pusha]

I've been thinking about this statement since it was first posted.  I do agree with you, Big and Pac are overrated.  This does not, however, negate the greatness of these two.  I was watching this thing on MTVJams that was some hip-hop summit/discussion/forum thing sponsored by XXL and David Banner was talking about how when Big and Pac were killed, how the whole culture was just...grieving.  He said that they were the voices of a generation, something that I agree with wholeheartedly.  Overrated, yes, but certainly among the top that have ever held a mic.

of course they were great, but the main reason that people think they are great is because they were conscious and spoke out about social issues... so did martin luther king! does that mean martin luther king was one of the greatest rappers? not at all. their music was definately above average, but they aren't even in my top 20 lyrically. maybe its their charisma or personality, but musically they arent at all that great.

[Nadroj Inc.]

wth i thought u didnt like pac jason, and i thought u loved kanye west
lol

heres my list

1. 2Pac
2. Jin
3. Nas
4. The Game
5. Eminem/Dr. Dre/Jay-Z

[i_liek_sushi]

1. Tupac
2. Nas
3. Eminem
4. Dre
5. Biggie

Rakim is good too.

And whoever said Tupac and Biggie Smalls are overrated... I hate you.

50 cent is overrated damn it.

[akjsd]

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[yo pusha]

And whoever said Tupac and Biggie Smalls are overrated... I hate you.

oh my... that just completely ruined my day.. a part of me just died inside... can you tell me how they are not overrated? or are you just a casual rap fan, not knowing anything, waiting for the next bandwagon to hop on? you sir are a "window rap fan", listening to artists without understanding everything.. you mad at me and i think i know why.. scream @ me

[xmkaex]

1.TuPac
2.Jin
3.Ludacris
4.twista
5.eminem

[i_liek_sushi]

oh my... that just completely ruined my day.. a part of me just died inside... can you tell me how they are not overrated? or are you just a casual rap fan, not knowing anything, waiting for the next bandwagon to hop on? you sir are a "window rap fan", listening to artists without understanding everything.. you mad at me and i think i know why.. scream @ me

Uh, cuz I have different opinions than you? I think they have better songs than most of today's half assed rap artists. (besides a few like dre, nas, rakim)

But why don't you tell me why they're overrated since you claim it as a fact? Let me guess... because they're popular? NO WAY (i wonder why...). And you're one of those people who think they're hardcore by like hating mainstream stuff?

Btw- never said i was mad at ya, fool, that was just an expression (i was kiddin).

[AcrylicuZ]

1.Big L
2.Big Pun
3.Biggie
4.Nas
5.Jeezy :P

[yo pusha]

my son

Uh, cuz I have different opinions than you? I think they have better songs than most of today's half assed rap artists. (besides a few like dre, nas, rakim)

i almost took you seriously until you said that they had better songs than most of "todays" rap artists, and then you list artists such as Dr. Dre, Nas, and Rakim, neither of which has had a hit song in quite a while.

But why don't you tell me why they're overrated since you claim it as a fact? Let me guess... because they're popular? NO WAY (i wonder why...).

it is a FACT. Pac and Biggie are without a doubt, the most well known rappers ever. Kids growing up might not have a clue who Rakim and Big L are, but of course they know Pac and Biggie.

yo pusha (me lol) made a good point when he said,

of course they were great, but the main reason that people think they are great is because they were conscious and spoke out about social issues... so did martin luther king! does that mean martin luther king was one of the greatest rappers? not at all. their music was definately above average, but they aren't even in my top 20 lyrically. maybe its their charisma or personality, but musically they arent at all that great.

and realize that i didnt even mention the fact that they beefed and that they were both shot dead.

is it their fault they are overated? of course not. but they are unquestionably the most unbalanced rappers in terms of fanbase vs. substance. prove me wrong.

And you're one of those people who think they're hardcore by like hating mainstream stuff?

not at all. i firmly believe that good music is good music. i preach this more than anybody else, and i dislike artists being catagorized. i dont like people being restrained to what they listen to because they assume that all "backpack rappers" have weak voices, cannot make a catchy hook, and are not "real". conversely, other people might think that every artist who sells more than 500k albums only raps about guns, hos, and money. so no, i guess i am not "one of those people who think they are hardcore by like hating mainstream stuff?"

now allow me to question you. do you even know anything about rap? did you just turn on vh1 and decided to try and test your rap knowledge by getting sonned online? why do you look like a bootleg hezron?

peace

[fameONE]

PUSHA GOT 'EM!

I'll stay out of this argument. I don't want to get my Bapes dirty