What MP3 Player do you use? Options

[Lithium718]

I would most def use a p2p service instead like LimeWire cuz its FREE! Although there is a risk of getting viruses.

[sadolakced acid]

Napster is really not a good idea, in my opinion. It sounds like a good idea, but you know how much music you have once you cancel your subscription? None. At least with a pay-per-song store, you retain your music.

You can buy songs with Napster, but at $0.80 a song, and the monthly subscription cost, it doesn't seem to be that much cheaper than another service.

do you know how many songs you'll have when you uninstall Itunes? or your comptuer gets stolen?

NONE.

with napster, you still have those.

so both have thier faults.

[*mipadi*]

do you know how many songs you'll have when you uninstall Itunes?  or your comptuer gets stolen?

NONE. 

with napster, you still have those.

so both have thier faults.

That's not even remotely the same. It's free to keep iTunes, so if you need it to play some songs, you can keep it; furthermore, you can always burn them to a CD. If your computer gets stolen...well, there's nothing that can prevent a loss of music in that case, although it was a nice non sequitur. Neither of those are really solid arguments against the fact that Napster is a bad idea because you really don't buy music, so if you cancel your subscription, you are left with no music, and there are no practical steps you can take to prevent that.

[sadolakced acid]

wait...

is cable television a bad idea because you don't keep the programming?

is blockbuster a bad idea because you don't keep the DVDs?

[underworld457]

not really cause if you like the movie you can buy it, and cable allows to see stuff you can't buy in store.

[*mipadi*]

wait...

is cable television a bad idea because you don't keep the programming?

is blockbuster a bad idea because you don't keep the DVDs?

You can keep the programming with cable television--it's called a VCR.

Hey, if you'd like to pay $10 a month to have no music after several years, instead of paying $1 per song and keep your music, be my guest.

[sadolakced acid]

you can keep your napster music- it's called your sound card.

10 bucks a month, 120 bucks a year. let's say you have it for 50 years, that's 6,000 bucks, for access to way over 10,000 songs.

now let's see... with itunes, you can get... 6,000 songs with that money. of course, you could keep it forever, but would you live forever?


even if you could live to 100 and listened to napster every month, it'd only be 12,000 bucks for access to thier entire library...


so, i guess if you want to simply buy the rights to a song (you're not really buying the song, the RIAA likes to emphasis that) then you can get 12,000 songs with itunes.

of course, if you only used an ipod for a status symbol and only had the top ten songs on there, then i guess itunes works.

seems like they're catering to a different clientel.

[*mipadi*]

Sure, you can use your sound card, but if you're going to go to the trouble of recording every song--and breaking your license agreement with Napster--wouldn't you just download the music from a P2P network anyway? Download services like iTunes and Napster exist to legitimize music--if you're going to circumvent protection laws anyway, why not just download from a P2P source and get it for free?

[sadolakced acid]

^ if you're going through the trouble of recording television shows, why don't you just download them anyways?

the sound card answer was in response to the VCR answer.

i would still like to point out that 12000 bucks will buy you only 12000 songs in itunes, which you keep forever provided you only use three comptuers, ipods, and CDs.

[*mipadi*]

^  if you're going through the trouble of recording television shows, why don't you just download them anyways?

the sound card answer was in response to the VCR answer.

i would still like to point out that 12000 bucks will buy you only 12000 songs in itunes, which you keep forever provided you only use three comptuers, ipods, and CDs.

It's a lot easier to record a television show than to download one (specific TV shows are a bit harder to find than music, and take much longer to download); furthermore, my computer isn't hooked up to cable, so if I see something on TV that I want to record, it's easier to just pop in a videotape.

Secondly, as far as iTMS goes, you get five devices, and you can burn up to ten CD's. Five devices should cover the needs of most people, although I fully agree that the digital rights management on music is not the correct way of making use of technology. I think that people should be able to use music they bought however they please, and I do agree that the DRM is much too limiting, which is why I don't buy much music that is protected with DRM. However, I much prefer having an actual copy of a song that I can keep for as long as I want, as opposed to "renting" my music and then having none once I cancel my subscription.

[sadolakced acid]

well, with itunes you're renting them for a lifetime.

just ask the RIAA.

you're not buying the song. you're buying the permission to used the song how they tell you you can.

[*mipadi*]

well, with itunes you're renting them for a lifetime.

just ask the RIAA.

you're not buying the song.  you're buying the permission to used the song how they tell you you can.

And that is, sadly, a better deal than Napster tells you how to use your music, which is: listen to your Napster music on up to three computers, pay $5 extra a month to put that music on your MP3 player, pay extra to copy it to a CD, oh, and give it back when you're done with our service.

[sadolakced acid]

^ but then compare pricing.

i have about 2000 songs right now that i got from CDs, adding about 50 a month.

if i were to have gotten them from napster and put them on my MP3 player i would have payed 180 a year.

times 80 years= 14600 bucks.

let's see... this is a series, isn't it?

2000 + 50(80)(40)

2000 + 16000

18000 songs, 14600 bucks.

cheaper than itunes, right?

[*mipadi*]

Right, and then you cancel your service with Napster, and poof, all that music is gone. So:

w/ Napster: $14,600, 0 songs
w/ iTunes : $14,600, 14,600 songs.

[sadolakced acid]

but that's for 80 years.

after 80 years i expect to be dead.

i'm not really sure how usefull itunes songs are in the afterlife...

[*mipadi*]

Assuming you plan on keeping your subscription service with Napster until you die. What if you find something better? Or what if Napster collapses?

At least if Apple ceases to exist, you still have music. And if you decide to stop buying from iTMS, it's quite easy to jump ship and go to another service and still keep all your music, which is not true of Napster at all.

[sadolakced acid]

yes, but if you switch to real or yahoo, you can get the music.

[shesnothxc]

I have a Creative Nomad 40 GB
its pretty nice

[EddieV]

Jesus Christ gone from vacation and I see a Napster vs. iTunes Battle. Thank God I won't be back till X-Mas.

[*Libertie*]

I almost bought the nano, but then I found this and fell in love. It's so attractive and very cool. It's something no one else at campus will have, which is also a plus. But yeah. I love it.

One thing about ipod is that you can get it engraved for free, which I definitely want so it will be more difficult for someone to steal.. But I work at Things Remembered as an engraver, so I just engraved my own. :)

[bonluvdan]

Oregon 256Mb

but i will get a new one, pretty soon.
iPod 20 GB(the new version that can play video and pictures)

[annalucky]

I almost bought the nano, but then I found this and fell in love. It's so attractive and very cool. It's something no one else at campus will have, which is also a plus. But yeah. I love it.

One thing about ipod is that you can get it engraved for free, which I definitely want so it will be more difficult for someone to steal.. But I work at Things Remembered as an engraver, so I just engraved my own. :)

What is it?

[EddieV]

^ It's called an Olympus MRobe

[Lyrical Lies]

20 gig iPod, i really didnt care wut kinda mp3 player it was, as long as it plays music and holds a lot of songs

[*danielle_x3*]

i used the iPod photo. holla hollaaa.