Does Evolution Require Atheism? |
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Does Evolution Require Atheism? |
Mar 10 2008, 04:07 PM
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٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 |
Well does it? Most religious people and hardcore scientists today are often incline to believe that atheism and evolution are rigorously intertwined. According to the majority (us), we are thought to believe that if one is to accept evolution as the explanation for life on Earth, it usually leads that person to become an atheist.
The problem I have with this assumption is that I don’t agree with it. Contrary to popular belief, evolution actually doesn’t explain anything about the origins of the universe, the world, or life in general. You can say Evolution is more of an explanation on the development of life. I personally believe a person can accept evolution as an explanation for the advancement of life, and the diversity, while still being able to believe that the Earth and life were first caused by God. Therefore, there’s no reason why a person can’t be a theist and at the same time accept the theory of evolution. Thoughts? |
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Mar 10 2008, 04:10 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
no. it doesn't require atheism.
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Mar 10 2008, 04:16 PM
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yan lin♥ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,129 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,627 |
No. I believe in evolution, but I'm not atheist, just agnostic.
Of course, the ones who say that evolution and atheism are rigorously entwined are religious hardliners. |
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*Steven* |
Mar 10 2008, 04:17 PM
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Do you believe in magiccccccccc it's here at MOODY GARDENS!
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Mar 10 2008, 04:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Banned Posts: 1,039 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,810 |
no.
-edit tung, im ranting here. why is it that you're coming off as a 'hey, i go to college so i know more about you. i can insult God all i want now because i am a biology major and that makes me smarter than all of you. ' ? honestly, tung. it's called arrogance. you have it. quit being a dick. and for those of you who say evolution and atheism are not entwined are ignorant. evolution is now the marching banner on which atheism marches to. ALSO, when evolution tells me that everything i do is subconcious, and even doing things such things as skipping in line is some sort of subconcious way for me to try to get ahead of the gene-battle? that says a lot. that tells me something about how evolution speaks about life. tung, if you are starting bio 1, don't come across as some dick with some bits of knowledge. i've read your topics in here, they don't come off as intelligent. in fact, all you do is have a ' f**k you ' demeanor while successfully avoiding the actual debate/question. |
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Mar 10 2008, 05:46 PM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
evolution does not require atheism. as a christian you could argue that god is the reason evolution exists. i dont know why you wouldn't believe that, as a christian.
podo, try to stay on topic. |
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Mar 10 2008, 05:48 PM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
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Mar 10 2008, 06:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
Evolution is evolution... whether a religious or non-religious person believes it or not.
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Mar 10 2008, 06:24 PM
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Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
I believe the question is whether or not one can believe in both evolution AND God (religion). At least that would be my interpretation.
Of course evolution is evolution. |
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Mar 10 2008, 06:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
I believe the question is whether or not one can believe in both evolution AND God (religion). At least that would be my interpretation. Of course evolution is evolution. Ya I'd find it quite laughable if someone religious or not religious believed there was no such thing as evolution. |
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Mar 10 2008, 07:06 PM
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Sarcastic Mr. Know-It-All Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,089 Joined: Dec 2003 Member No: 29 |
I believe in evolution.
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Mar 10 2008, 07:32 PM
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cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
If one believes in evolution, one can't believe in Adam and Eve?
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Mar 10 2008, 07:54 PM
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٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 |
Wow whoa there okay podo. I'm a dick, and so are you for apparently blasting me out of no apparent reason. Yeah I'm arrogant, refer to sig. What exactly does my personality have to do with this debate (yes using the personality game like how it was used in mod perf). Honestly, I never claimed to be some kind of elitist just because I'm a Bio major. In fact, in the other religious topics, I was merely stating my opinions about what I thought about religion. /endofftopic
Anyways, Eddie can you go more in depth at what you are trying to convey? |
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*yrrnotelekktric* |
Mar 10 2008, 08:00 PM
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no, evolution doesnt require atheism.
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*Steven* |
Mar 10 2008, 08:17 PM
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Mar 10 2008, 08:38 PM
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cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
Anyways, Eddie can you go more in depth at what you are trying to convey? Well Atheism doesn't necessarily mean Christianity, however, for a Christian to believe in Evolution, it contradicts the theory that God made man in the way that it was described in the bible. Also it was stated in science that Dinosaurs lived before man. Yet God created Earth in 7 days. Though dinosaur's and man's years are way farther apart by millions of years. There's a lot of things I can sorta bring up. |
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Mar 10 2008, 08:40 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
i think it would just depend on how literal you choose to take genesis. 7 days could be 7 billion years if someone wanted to try to interpret it that way you know. but yeah i get what you're saying.
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Mar 10 2008, 08:42 PM
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cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
i think it would just depend on how literal you choose to take genesis. 7 days could be 7 billion years if someone wanted to try to interpret it that way you know. but yeah i get what you're saying. I don't take the Gospel, Quran, or Torah "totally" literal, however I go by what I've read in a sense that it could be literal. |
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Mar 11 2008, 06:50 PM
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٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 |
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Mar 11 2008, 06:52 PM
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Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
I've seen a couple of Roman Catholics out there who accept evolution, actually.
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Mar 11 2008, 06:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
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Mar 11 2008, 08:23 PM
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yan lin♥ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,129 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,627 |
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Mar 11 2008, 08:27 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
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Mar 12 2008, 12:52 AM
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cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
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Mar 12 2008, 03:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
If that were the case religiously, then the Big Bang was done by God. Shhhhh... you can't say things like that, their heads will explode in tryin to associate God with the creation of the Universes. yeah, that's what i just said. Actually no... you were assuming that maybe it could be billions of years at a time. I'm sayin by religious text/sources that 1 day to God is 1000 years to planet earth, ya dig? Good. |
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