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Charging Minors with Child Porn
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post Mar 14 2009, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 20 2009, 08:34 AM) *
it's stupid to me. 15 year olds are not sex offenders becuase they send nude pictures to their boyfriend/girlfriend. they are horny little teenagers taking advantage of technology. it's just stupid, who is really that hurt by it? is a kid gonna be scarred for life cause his gf took a naked picture for him? wtf, no. it's really not that huge of a deal.
that would suck. surely there is more important things going on in the world we should know about than weather a 15 year sent a naked picture to their boyfriend. i wouldn't watch any news station who considered this little teenage practice to be "breaking news" or interrupted actual important news to tell me about some 15 year olds relationship somewhere else in the nation. what a dumbass idea.

Amen.

I mean as much as little kids shouldnt be taking boobie pics. I dont see how you can put a charge as severe as child porn on it.
 
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post Mar 14 2009, 07:44 PM
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^ agreed. i'd just take the cell phone away. no more super cool phones with the texting & camera features. they'd get the most basic cell phone & plan i could find.
 
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post Mar 14 2009, 07:48 PM
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Yeah, its really dumb. I know its going to ruin the rest of my teenage life.
 
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post Mar 14 2009, 07:49 PM
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why would it ruin your life? your parents giving you crap about it?
 
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post Mar 14 2009, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(smash @ Mar 14 2009, 08:49 PM) *
why would it ruin your life? your parents giving you crap about it?

lol No but now i cant get nudez yo! haha whistling.gif
 
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post Mar 14 2009, 08:11 PM
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lol. you don't need nudes.
 
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QUOTE(smash @ Mar 14 2009, 09:11 PM) *
lol. you don't need nudes.

But i would be nice.
 
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post Mar 14 2009, 08:54 PM
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nudes are nice sometimes. but not on the phone your parents are paying for.
 
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post Mar 15 2009, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE(smash @ Mar 14 2009, 07:54 PM) *
not on the phone your parents are paying for.

 
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post Mar 15 2009, 03:25 AM
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QUOTE(smash @ Mar 14 2009, 08:54 PM) *
nudes are nice sometimes. but not on the phone your parents are paying for.

Yeah go get a prepaid phone like the drug dealers do or use a library computer to get your nudes on =]
 
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post Mar 15 2009, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(hypnotique @ Mar 14 2009, 08:39 PM) *
Amen.

I mean as much as little kids shouldnt be taking boobie pics. I dont see how you can put a charge as severe as child porn on it.



i'll second that one cause I really don't see what the imporatnce of that is to my life if i'm trying to watch the news and find out things that are going to impact my life.
things like that have no effect on my life jus makes me wanna tell the parents that if they have a problem with it handle it don't have the news put it on blast and interrupt people from their news
 
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post Mar 17 2009, 01:56 PM
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Child porn should be taken extremely seriously. Doesn't matter who is viewing the material. By consciously taking pleasure in child pornography they are encouraging it's production. That ten years is insignificant to the ruined lives of the children being viewed in those movies or photos.

That said, there are cases where stupid 15 year old boys show those photos that their girlfriends sent them to the wrong people, get prosecuted, and end up in a shit storm. I say, this is why we have a justice system. Let the jury decide.

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please don't be forceful about your opinions then, especially when the majority doesn't agree with you.


Doughnut, don't be an idiot. It's called freedom, not agreedom...
 
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post Mar 17 2009, 03:14 PM
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I'm not a sex offender. I'm not a child... I trust my boyfried.
If I got arrested for this, I would flip a shit and fight for my rights.

This is a prime example of the government getting WAY too involved in our personal lives. I certainly don't support child porn - however, I think they need to draw a line, here.
 
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post Mar 17 2009, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(CrotchetTheLeper @ Mar 17 2009, 04:14 PM) *
I'm not a sex offender. I'm not a child... I trust my boyfried.
If I got arrested for this, I would flip a shit and fight for my rights.

This is a prime example of the government getting WAY too involved in our personal lives. I certainly don't support child porn - however, I think they need to draw a line, here.


You wouldn't be fighting for your rights. Most likely your parents would be trying to put your boyfriend in jail.
 
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post Mar 18 2009, 04:15 PM
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This forum is quite chaotic, I must say.

I don't think that pressing charges against a minor, who most likely doesn't even know exactly what childpornography is, will solve any problems. That is why there is a juvenile system because minors are not and should not be expected to govern themselves as adults nor be treated like them. WHy? Because they are children. Now I agree that the kids should be informed on why it is wrong and possibly have some priveledges revoked or something like that, but pressing charges is way too extreme. If they are charged then I guess we would have to arrest all the gerber/pampers babies who show their asses in commercials on t.v. right?

Also, the law is not at all concrete. That is why the Supreme Court exists so that they can declare laws unconstitutional and make them void. The judiciary system has the job of interpreting the law so that the letter of the law is not confused with the intent.

For example, a sign may say no vehicles are allowed in a park or you will risk being severely punished. If a mother decides to take a walk with her beautiful baby girl and put her in a stroller, she would be violating the law because a stroller is a vehicle. According to letter of laaw she should be punished, but the court will interpret the actual intent of the law and determine that it was not designed to keep mothers with strollers out of a park.

Get it?
 
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post Mar 18 2009, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Mar 18 2009, 04:15 PM) *
For example, a sign may say no vehicles are allowed in a park or you will risk being severely punished. If a mother decides to take a walk with her beautiful baby girl and put her in a stroller, she would be violating the law because a stroller is a vehicle. According to letter of laaw she should be punished, but the court will interpret the actual intent of the law and determine that it was not designed to keep mothers with strollers out of a park.

Get it?



who would honestly consider a baby stroller to be a vehicle? lol
 
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post Mar 18 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Mar 18 2009, 05:15 PM) *
This forum is quite chaotic, I must say.

I don't think that pressing charges against a minor, who most likely doesn't even know exactly what childpornography is, will solve any problems. That is why there is a juvenile system because minors are not and should not be expected to govern themselves as adults nor be treated like them. WHy? Because they are children. Now I agree that the kids should be informed on why it is wrong and possibly have some priveledges revoked or something like that, but pressing charges is way too extreme. If they are charged then I guess we would have to arrest all the gerber/pampers babies who show their asses in commercials on t.v. right?

Also, the law is not at all concrete. That is why the Supreme Court exists so that they can declare laws unconstitutional and make them void. The judiciary system has the job of interpreting the law so that the letter of the law is not confused with the intent.

For example, a sign may say no vehicles are allowed in a park or you will risk being severely punished. If a mother decides to take a walk with her beautiful baby girl and put her in a stroller, she would be violating the law because a stroller is a vehicle. According to letter of laaw she should be punished, but the court will interpret the actual intent of the law and determine that it was not designed to keep mothers with strollers out of a park.

Get it?


Again, it's for a jury to decide. They should still be prosecuted.
 
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post Mar 18 2009, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 18 2009, 05:16 PM) *
who would honestly consider a baby stroller to be a vehicle? lol


lol I was wondering the same thing but the deifinition of vehicle is: a means of carrying or transporting something - Merriam-Webster Dictionary

So technically, the woman would be breaking the law. But who would find her guilty? No logical thinking person would.

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Again, it's for a jury to decide. They should still be prosecuted.


blink.gif ummm... you're joking right? mellow.gif
 
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post Mar 19 2009, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(CrotchetTheLeper @ Mar 17 2009, 04:14 PM) *
I'm not a sex offender. I'm not a child... I trust my boyfried.
If I got arrested for this, I would flip a shit and fight for my rights.

This is a prime example of the government getting WAY too involved in our personal lives. I certainly don't support child porn - however, I think they need to draw a line, here.


Are you or your boy friend under the age of 18? If so, please stfu. You have no rights pertaining to this law.

Just sayin.
 
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post Mar 19 2009, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Mar 18 2009, 10:45 PM) *
So technically, the woman would be breaking the law. But who would find her guilty? No logical thinking person would.
blink.gif ummm... you're joking right? mellow.gif


If no-one cares then they won't be prosecuted. If someone obnoxious cares then the jury will decide their fate. If no logically thinking person would find them guilty then the jury sure as hell wouldn't find her guilty unless by some chance they found themselves face to face with the jury from hell. Again, it's for a jury to decide, and law breakers should be prosecuted. This is why our justice system exists. You and your rhetorical questions... *sigh* You could really answer these for yourself.
 
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post Mar 22 2009, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 19 2009, 04:52 PM) *
If no-one cares then they won't be prosecuted. If someone obnoxious cares then the jury will decide their fate. If no logically thinking person would find them guilty then the jury sure as hell wouldn't find her guilty unless by some chance they found themselves face to face with the jury from hell. Again, it's for a jury to decide, and law breakers should be prosecuted. This is why our justice system exists. You and your rhetorical questions... *sigh* You could really answer these for yourself.


ummm... it seems as though you're agreeing with me, but at the same time you're insulting me. Maybe it's just that you don't speak english well?

My whole point about the stroller is that the law is not in concrete. The judicial branch is there to interpret the law to figure out its intent. That's basically what you were saying, so I have no idea why your ideas seem to clash with mine.
 
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post Mar 23 2009, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Mar 22 2009, 11:55 PM) *
ummm... it seems as though you're agreeing with me, but at the same time you're insulting me. Maybe it's just that you don't speak english well?

My whole point about the stroller is that the law is not in concrete. The judicial branch is there to interpret the law to figure out its intent. That's basically what you were saying, so I have no idea why your ideas seem to clash with mine.


I didn't understand what point you were trying to make when you referred to the mom and her stroller. Now that I do, we are in complete agreement.
 
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 20 2009, 09:55 PM) *
Oh trust me... I actually have to lower my maturity at times with people in this forum. -.-


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WTF? You're so mature it's not even funny.
 
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post Mar 23 2009, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 18 2009, 04:16 PM) *
who would honestly consider a baby stroller to be a vehicle? lol

LOL WUT.

No but in all seriousness in latino neighborhoods the stroller is honestly a great mode of transportation until you are about 13.

 
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post Mar 25 2009, 12:16 AM
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Wow. Bad me for not keeping up with the debate.

Apparently, this is a hot topic. I agree with a lot of people that modesty and some sort of self control has to be taught to teenagers. However, I honestly think following the law to the letter is more damaging to society as a whole.

If the 15-year-old is successfully charged and register as a sex offender... wouldn't he/she not be allowed to attend school? Aren't schools filled with minors? I just realized that.

I would like to think our justice system would have enough sense to apply the child pornography law within reason.
 

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