is chess really a sport? Rating Options

[Stuckie]

Personally, I think sports should have some kind of physical activity. Not physically moving the pieces on the board. But what is, is. Chess is a sport.

Maybe if the timer was 40 yards away, then it can be a physical sport and not just a mind sport.

[*BOSS*]

wait, you insult my intelligence and your the one who thinks Chess is a sport? Let me ask you this genius, if you are right, there is a possibility that the best ATHLETE in sports could be 300 pounds overweight, correct?

[brooklyneast05]

wait, you insult my intelligence and your the one who thinks Chess is a sport? Let me ask you this genius, if you are right, there is a possibility that the best ATHLETE in sports could be 300 pounds overweight, correct?

seriously, this is just so ridiculous to me that people think it's a sport.

[creole]

kevin, im 300 pounds overweight <3

[*BOSS*]

Liar, I just checked.

Lol well, theres a good reason why im IP banned on wikipedia

[Stuckie]

wait, you insult my intelligence and your the one who thinks Chess is a sport? Let me ask you this genius, if you are right, there is a possibility that the best ATHLETE in sports could be 300 pounds overweight, correct?

No. Its impossible for a 300 pound overweight guy to be the best athlete in sports. He can be the best chess player. Since chess is a sport, that makes him an athlete.

Since your going off opinion, you dont see that the facts are that Chess is a sport. I personally dont think chess should be considered a sport, but it is a sport. Debates aren't won by opinions. They're won by stating facts. Which is why I kept my feelings and my opinions to myself, and stated only facts.

[*BOSS*]

are you listening to yourself right now, you just said chess players are athletes. My opinion how can i state an opinion when i asked you a quesion. lol, what facts? shit from wikipedia? damn thats real credible. lmao@ debates won by facts, what happens when the topic of debate is morality?

[Stuckie]

^Click here for a non-wikipedia, credible site

the IOC is silly if you ask me. chess can be a sport but rugby can't? i don't know, just saying what the IOC picks doesn't personally make sense to me. there's lots of things that are sports and even considered sports that don't get to be in the olymipics. i think they are taking/took out softball.

You should look at the link too.

Rugby, as well as chess and softball, aren't olympic sports, but they're recognized by the IOC as sports because their statutes, practice and activities conform with the Olympic Charter.

This link has a list of a few games that were Olympic Games in the past. Rugby is among them.

[brooklyneast05]

ok but this is a debate about whether chess is REALLY a sport according to the title. it's not a debate about whether or not the IOC recognizes it as one, because there's nothing to debate there, it does. not everyone shares your view that the IOC is god and the determining factor of what is and what isn't a sport with some kind of supreme final say in it though.

"is chess really a sport?"
"does chess really exercise your brain to the extent?"

those are the questions asks, so how are you going to jump on people for giving an opinion when those are the questions? it cracks me up how you're acting like you're such a good debater because you kept your opinion to yourself and your entire defense of whether it's really a sport is because the IOC said so.

chess still doesn't even meet the definition of a sport according to a lot of definitions though, so i'm not convinced. i don't care if they got listed by the IOC. it's not like there wasn't major incentive for the IOC to list something with so many participants. it's not like it wasn't in their favor to do so. but there's not much for us to debate with you about as long as you think the IOC is the be all and end all in the world of sports.


lol @ them listing live saving as a sport? wth

[fire]

wait, you insult my intelligence and your the one who thinks Chess is a sport? Let me ask you this genius, if you are right, there is a possibility that the best ATHLETE in sports could be 300 pounds overweight, correct?

BITCH SLAP!

[sixfive]

No. Its impossible for a 300 pound overweight guy to be the best athlete in sports. He can be the best chess player. Since chess is a sport, that makes him an athlete.

Since your going off opinion, you dont see that the facts are that Chess is a sport. I personally dont think chess should be considered a sport, but it is a sport. Debates aren't won by opinions. They're won by stating facts. Which is why I kept my feelings and my opinions to myself, and stated only facts.

Sup broseph.

Sport: an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Okay there's a fact. Is it considered athletic activity to move a few pieces around? By that logic, eating is a sport. Is the hotdog eating contest a sporting event? Oh wait, you move around when you sleep, is that a sport? Is breathing a sport? See where I'm going with this?

Also, you say it's impossible for a "300 pound overweight guy to be the best athlete in sports," then you go and say that since chess is a sport, that makes him an athlete. Hmm?

By the way:
"you dont see that the facts are that Chess is a sport" Lol? You imply that there are multiple facts. Aside from your statement that "Chess is a sport," what else is there? Should it be "you don't see the fact that chess is a sport."?
Its is possessive; It's is a contraction.
your = possessive; you're = contraction.

[Uronacid]

I don't think that sports have to be athletic at all. There are many definitions surrounding the word "sport". While one definition doesn't fit another does. We all realize chess is hardly athletic, however it is recreational, a diversion from life around you, and for some a pleasant pastime activity.

sport
1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.

By definition, chess can be considered a sport. Yes, even 300lb champion chess players.

[Uronacid]

I don't think that sports have to be athletic at all. There are many definitions surrounding the word "sport". While one definition doesn't fit another does. We all realize chess is hardly athletic, however it is recreational, a diversion from life around you, and for some a pleasant pastime activity.

sport
1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.

By definition, chess can be considered a sport. Yes, even 300lb champion chess players, but would that 300lb chess player be considered an athlete. No.

athlete
1. a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.

Given the word sport has multiple definitions. It can be taken out of context. Even though sport is in the definition of the word athlete, the rest of the definition implies some form of strenuous physical activity. It's pretty clear, the word sport within the definition of athlete is being used in the context of being "an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature".

Chess players are participating in a sport when they play, however I wouldn't consider them athletes.

[Stuckie]

ok but this is a debate about whether chess is REALLY a sport according to the title. it's not a debate about whether or not the IOC recognizes it as one, because there's nothing to debate there, it does. not everyone shares your view that the IOC is god and the determining factor of what is and what isn't a sport with some kind of supreme final say in it though.

"is chess really a sport?"
"does chess really exercise your brain to the extent?"

those are the questions asks, so how are you going to jump on people for giving an opinion when those are the questions? it cracks me up how you're acting like you're such a good debater because you kept your opinion to yourself and your entire defense of whether it's really a sport is because the IOC said so.

chess still doesn't even meet the definition of a sport according to a lot of definitions though, so i'm not convinced. i don't care if they got listed by the IOC. it's not like there wasn't major incentive for the IOC to list something with so many participants. it's not like it wasn't in their favor to do so. but there's not much for us to debate with you about as long as you think the IOC is the be all and end all in the world of sports.
lol @ them listing live saving as a sport? wth

I gave several sources in reference to chess. I used wikipedia, which you said was not a credible reference. I used the IOC website, which recognized chess as a sport. But you dont care for what the IOC see as a sport. If you read more about the site the International Sports Federation (IFs) administered chess to IOC as a sport. So I used three sources: Wikipedia, the IOC, and IFs. Which all said the same thing.

But you, who doesn't approve of the refernces, hasn't shown me anything thats says different. What cracks me up is how you expect me to understand your point of view with no kind of credible source... scratch that, any source. So I guess I am a good debater. I've shown sites that confirm what I said. You, on the other hand, have not. Before you criticize my sources, show your own.

[Joanne]

Since your going off opinion, you dont see that the facts are that Chess is a sport. I personally dont think chess should be considered a sport, but it is a sport. Debates aren't won by opinions. They're won by stating facts. Which is why I kept my feelings and my opinions to myself, and stated only facts.

Oh look, I can copy and past definitions too!

Debate:
talk or argue about something: to talk about something at length and in detail, especially as part of a formal exchange of opinion

(source: Encarta Dictionary)


Anyway, JC and a lot of the people here have already acknowledged the fact that the IOC states that chess is a sport. What they are debating is that it shouldn't be considered one (you would know if you read the rest of this thread). Yes, it's their opinion and they haven't copied and pasted straight up facts from official manuals or whatever, but they've given the facts that chess does not involve real physical activity and that chess players cannot be considered athletes.

If debates can only be done by throwing out official facts, what's the point? Like I copied and pasted above, debates are the exchange of opinions and defending those beliefs. Facts can be used to support your opinions, but seriously... what good is it to have a debate full of "BUT SO-AND-SO SAID SO!"

[Stuckie]

Anyway, JC and a lot of the people here have already acknowledged the fact that the IOC states that chess is a sport. What they are debating is that it shouldn't be considered one (you would know if you read the rest of this thread). Yes, it's their opinion and they haven't copied and pasted straight up facts from official manuals or whatever, but they've given the facts that chess does not involve real physical activity and that chess players cannot be considered athletes.

If debates can only be done by throwing out official facts, what's the point? Like I copied and pasted above, debates are the exchange of opinions and defending those beliefs. Facts can be used to support your opinions, but seriously... what good is it to have a debate full of "BUT SO-AND-SO SAID SO!"

Everybody knows Chess isn't physicaly demanding, so no one needs to give facts to support that.

You are right. Debates are about exchanging opinions and defending your beliefs, but no one did that. All I heard was, "Wikipedia is not credible" or "The IOC isn't law of sports". They exchanged opinions, but didnt defend them. My opinion is Chess is a sport. And I found facts that support them. But everyone criticized them, which is another opinion, and didnt defend them. So by the definition you found, Im the only one debating.

[brooklyneast05]

I gave several sources in reference to chess. I used wikipedia, which you said was not a credible reference.

i never said it wasn't a credible source, i never said anything about wikipedia.

I used the IOC website, which recognized chess as a sport. But you dont care for what the IOC see as a sport. If you read more about the site the International Sports Federation (IFs) administered chess to IOC as a sport. So I used three sources: Wikipedia, the IOC, and IFs. Which all said the same thing.

who cares how many sources you used? i never said you weren't using real sources or that you didn't use any. you're bitching at the wrong person. i said that i don't personally give a shit what the IOC says because i don't think they are the god of sports and it doesn't mean anything to me. because like i've said the question of the debate isn't "does the IOC consider chess a sport" it's "is chess really a sport." like joanne said, the point of the debate (at least as i understand it) is whether chess should or shouldn't be considered a sport. for some reason though, you can't understand that whether the IOC says it's a sport isn't all that relevant to those of us disagreeing. we're disagreeing with whether it should be, not whether it is considered one.

But you, who doesn't approve of the refernces, hasn't shown me anything thats says different.

what do you want me to provide? i've provided a definition which fit what I base my opinion off of.

this reasoning is the same as mine and probably most people who actually play sports
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_chess_a_game_or_sport

What cracks me up is how you expect me to understand your point of view with no kind of credible source... scratch that, any source. m a good debater. I've shown sites that confirm what I said. You, on the other hand, have not. Before you criticize my sources, show your own.

why would that crack you up that i expect you to understand my point of view when you already said multiple times that you agree with my point of view lol? you don't understand it but you've been saying how you agree that you don't personally see it as a sport? my bad, i didn't realize that you flat out agreeing with me meant you didn't understand my point of view.

Personally, I think sports should have some kind of physical activity. Not physically moving the pieces on the board.

I personally dont think chess should be considered a sport, but it is a sport.

i would THINK you understand me if you're the exact same thing.

how would you like me to provide a source of my opinion other than a definition? i don't think it's a sport because i think sports require physical activity. (refer to definitions) i think it's a game. my opinion is so completely obvious and clear that i don't get what you expect me to provide more than a definition.

Everybody knows Chess isn't physicaly demanding, so no one needs to give facts to support that.

then what the f*ck are you complaining about me not citing sources for? i'm saying sports should be physically demanding, and chess isn't, that's as simple as it is to me.

[Uronacid]

i never said it wasn't a credible source...

So, essentially, just stating your opinion? It really doesn't matter what anyone says. You'll forever believe that chess is not a sport because it doesn't contain rigorous physical activity. In that case, I disagree.

*shrugs*

Well this is pointless...

*leaves*

[brooklyneast05]

yeah, as i've already said.

but it's whatever cause i'll never ever be convinced that this is a sport regardless of who claims it is.

that could just as easily be a "game"

it's all dependent on where you get your definition though. some definitions of sport require physical activity and some don't. so it's a sport by one definition and it's not one by another.

[Uronacid]

yeah, as i've already said.

Well, I'm glad this debate is over. *sigh*

[sixfive]

E SPORTS GOGOGOGOOGOGOG

[shoryuken]

EY stevii.. u gott yahoo chess..

[*BOSS*]

ima give Kobe a run for his money....by playing monopoly

[sixfive]

I'ma take Kobe's MVP titles via Nintendo WIi.

[Tsukuyomi-No-Mok...]

Chess isn't a sport it's a board game
unless this is a way to show that people who have nothing better to do with their life other than sit around a table and move little plastic pieces around a checkered board excel in something
it's not a sport
sports are supposed to be physical work and it's used for exercise
i've never seen chess strengthen any part of your body.
yea it's a logical game and all that but being able to stratgize well is not gonna keep your body in shape and keep you healthy.