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post Jul 17 2009, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Jul 16 2009, 11:58 PM) *
That desktop is an extra 16 dollars, it has .1 ghz processor power left, and the mouse and keyboard are uglier. And I cant return it in 3 years to get the latest technology for no cost to me! What wrong with prebuilts?! I just need help choosing between the prebuilts! And why would I buy from newegg instead of sams club when I can get the exact same thing at sames for the exact same price.

How about this...just tell me which is better. Amd or intel? I prefer intel just because they are more popular, but... idk.

The Athlon II I put in that build is a retooled Phenom II (aka one of the best processors on the market), the only difference is the smaller cache.
But it's not just the processor. I gave you faster RAM (and more of it), better case, better PSU, better GPU, better motherboard, and a faster hard drive. With this you have a computer that preforms ten times better, and will last at least twice as long.



And no bloatware.


Also, Intel has the fastest mainstream processor, but unless you're buying an i7 Extreme for $999, AMD offers the same performance for a cheaper price.






also fyi: GHz is not the only thing that makes a processor fast. You can get a Celeron to 5.5 GHz on air, but it's still not going to perform as well as a 2.8 GHz Phenom II


And you can't get the same thing from Sam's Club for the same price. All prebuilt brands skimp out on important parts of the computer. Like they'll give you DDR2 667 instead of DDR2 800, or they'll give you a cheap $15 PSU that goes jihad on you and takes out the entire system with it. Or they give you a 5200 RPM hard drive. Or they give you a DVD-ROM drive instead of a DVD burner. Or they give you a cheap motherboard with that they built themselves so you can't upgrade when you need to.


An advantage of buying prebuilt is that, as long as the medium doesn't go out of fashion, the computer is completely upgradable. And AM2+, PCIe, and DDR2 aren't going to go out of fashion anytime soon. 100% of prebuilt manufacturers use proprietary parts, meaning you if you ever want to upgrade, either it's not going to happen, or you have to pay out the ass for more ddr2 667, 5200 rpm drives, and jihad PSUs.




Tl;dr: Prebuilt is for the computer illiterate.
 
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post Jul 17 2009, 11:46 PM
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Well that completely makes sense...but i didnt know some ram was faster then others. And actually those desktops did have 5200 rpm hard drives. Heres another question that you will hate...what about prebuilt computers made by apple? Do they skip out on the same stuff? I really dont plan on upgrading but is the ram and whatnot they come with good quality? Because I knew that eventually I would move to mac so I thought I would dish out the cash and get it now. Im gonna get the 24-inch : 2.66GHz. I know it is overpriced, but of all their computers I think it is the best deal. Im just tired of windows. Even when I get my netbook im gonna put linux on it.

What do you think is the best time to get an imac? Their business plan is to keep coming out with new stuff so you keep buying so I want to buy as soon as a new one comes out. Does the latest os(snow leopord) now ship on all their computers? *waits for mipadi*
 
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Apple does not skip out on anything, but that little picture of the apple on the computer jacks up the price so high it's almost not worth buying official hardware.
 
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post Jul 18 2009, 12:03 AM
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I cantz wait... O and I heard that snow leopard has much faster boot and shut down times.
 
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post Jul 18 2009, 12:10 AM
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I haven't heard that, but I only check out Apple forums when I'm looking for something new to do with my iPod, so I don't hear much regarding Mac.
 
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post Jul 18 2009, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jul 18 2009, 12:10 AM) *
I haven't heard that, but I only check out Apple forums when I'm looking for something new to do with my iPod, so I don't hear much regarding Mac.


I wanna try this. A dual boot ipod sounds wicked...
 
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post Jul 18 2009, 02:03 AM
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I was considering holding out on getting my mac for like 2-3 month because i heard around ocotober there will be a fai chance of the imac get visual updates and some spec bumps. I guess I could handle using a piece of crap for months...and it will give me a chance to settle into our new house.
 
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pricse go down bu thne antywy
 
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post Jul 18 2009, 02:08 AM
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post Jul 18 2009, 02:43 AM
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niga i say prices go dwn bi thne
 
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Macs get a performance upgrade in fall, and new looks in spring. prices go down when they get upgrades.
 
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post Jul 18 2009, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Jul 18 2009, 12:46 AM) *
What do you think is the best time to get an imac? Their business plan is to keep coming out with new stuff so you keep buying so I want to buy as soon as a new one comes out. Does the latest os(snow leopord) now ship on all their computers? *waits for mipadi*

The iMac will be due for an upgrade this fall, I think; no guarantees a new model will be released, but it may happen. Snow Leopard hasn't shipped at all yet. It's "scheduled" for September, and from what I've heard from very reliable sources wink.gif wink.gif it will almost definitely be released by September. But if you buy a Mac now, I think you can upgrade to Snow Leopard for $20 or something like that.

Anyway, a pre-built Mac from Apple is fine; I'd just recommend upgrading the RAM yourself, instead of springing for the Apple upgrade.
 
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So do you think I should wait till the end of September? Ill have to use a 5 year old desktop but I will be able to do my work. Do you think imac updates will come out closer to the beginning of the fall or the end? I dont think I could wait for 4 months. I was also wondering if the upgrades would be to my advantage...because if they change the prices around they may force me to pay an extra 200$ to get the same thing but with the upgrades...
 
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QUOTE(jcp @ Jul 18 2009, 01:37 PM) *
So do you think I should wait till the end of September? Ill have to use a 5 year old desktop but I will be able to do my work. Do you think imac updates will come out closer to the beginning of the fall or the end? I dont think I could wait for 4 months. I was also wondering if the upgrades would be to my advantage...because if they change the prices around they may force me to pay an extra 200$ to get the same thing but with the upgrades...

Probably around the same time Snow Leopard is released. Upgrades are almost always to your advantage, but sometimes they're big and other times they're not very significant.
 

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