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res8zenith
post Jul 13 2009, 11:37 PM
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was wondering lately i've seen designs that look very similiar to other designs so i was wondering, what is the best thing to do when you catch someone stealing your material/ideas/codes/designs or structures for their own uses or sites?

what if they are using your stuff but credit you?
what if they are using your stuff and alter the credits?
what if they are using your stuff and remove the credits?


**normally i email them or comment on the site and tell them to take it off or i'll talk to their hosting services xD that's the best i got, and if their ashamed of what they did, they put the credits up or completely change everything before next sunrise. some are rude enough to slander & object the claim when clearly the material is stolen.
 
 
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Mikeplyts
post Jul 15 2009, 04:14 PM
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oh, LOL. sorry Josh.



Who did "invent" the codes?
 
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post Jul 16 2009, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(tcunningham @ Jul 16 2009, 04:03 AM) *
The author doesn't have to even put copyright on their work. As of April 1, 1989, it just is.


Yeah, but this is small time stuff. Do you really mean to tell me that you've never copied and pasted potions of someone's code into your own designs. Give me a break. It's part of the learning process.

QUOTE(Mikeplyts @ Jul 15 2009, 05:14 PM) *
oh, LOL. sorry Josh.
Who did "invent" the codes?


Yes, I am talking about people in general.
 
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post Jul 17 2009, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 16 2009, 09:47 AM) *
Yeah, but this is small time stuff. Do you really mean to tell me that you've never copied and pasted potions of someone's code into your own designs. Give me a break. It's part of the learning process.

There's nothing wrong with using snippets of code. For example, if you see some JavaScript effect on a site and you don't know how to do it, use it from their site. If they don't specifically say that you need to do something in return, it doesn't entirely matter, because that code could have come from anywhere. Granted, there are limitations.

As for what exactly constitutes as "stealing" a website, it depends. I like Tim Van Damme's example, with his Wall of Fame vs. his Wall of Shame. Wall of Famers used his ideas as inspiration, and in most cases offered him a link back to his site as a source of inspiration. Wall of Shamers blatantly copied his work, pixel for pixel.

Personally, I believe if you see a site that you think looks good, and want to base your own site on that, go for it. Just make it entirely different and if you do use some ideas from your inspiration, give a link back. It's only courteous.

QUOTE(tcunningham @ Jul 16 2009, 04:03 AM) *
The author doesn't have to even put copyright on their work. As of April 1, 1989, it just is.

I think it's actually March 1st, 1989, when the US joined the Berne Convention. True, it's not required, but you stand nearly no chance in a court of law if you don't include a copyright notice.

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(d) Evidentiary Weight of Notice. — If a notice of copyright in the form and position specified by this section appears on the published copy or copies to which a defendant in a copyright infringement suit had access, then no weight shall be given to such a defendant's interposition of a defense based on innocent infringement in mitigation of actual or statutory damages, except as provided in the last sentence of section 504©(2).

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap4.html#401

QUOTE( @ Jul 16 2009, 01:36 AM) *
bo-ya!! you're awesome fixatik! i read that somewhere but i don't remember if it was 70 years or 40 years..xD oh well 70 sounds better. so all my designs i copyrighted are mine so i can go around kicking some ballz yay!

Unless you actually registered with the copyright office, there's not much you can do except ask your work to be taken down, or use some kind of "wall of shame" or similar action. Works not registered won't hold up in court.
 

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AutumnSunsets   Designer Thieves   Jul 13 2009, 11:37 PM
jcp   If they are stealing you exact design, or your cod...   Jul 13 2009, 11:40 PM
IWontRapeYou   I spam them with gay porn   Jul 13 2009, 11:40 PM
Mikeplyts   QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Jul 14 2009, 12:40 A...   Jul 14 2009, 06:36 AM
AutumnSunsets   QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Jul 14 2009, 12:40 A...   Jul 14 2009, 10:24 AM
Uronacid   I just don't care.   Jul 14 2009, 10:45 AM
AutumnSunsets   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 14 2009, 11:45 AM) I...   Jul 14 2009, 11:21 AM
mipadi   Yeah, I'm going to move this elsewhere.   Jul 14 2009, 02:48 PM
schizo   QUOTE(A1Bassline @ Jul 13 2009, 11:39 PM)...   Jul 14 2009, 03:04 PM
AutumnSunsets   my fame and reputation xD   Jul 14 2009, 09:46 PM
karmakiller   ^ As strange as your post is, I can understand. Th...   Jul 15 2009, 12:28 AM
Beenly   If an art piece from a museum can be stolen, a dig...   Jul 15 2009, 06:36 AM
AutumnSunsets   QUOTE(Beenly @ Jul 15 2009, 07:36 AM) If ...   Jul 15 2009, 12:15 PM
doughnut   well, i once saw one of my vectors used in some ce...   Jul 15 2009, 07:00 AM
Uronacid   If you post your work on a site where it's fre...   Jul 15 2009, 08:24 AM
serotonin   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 15 2009, 08:24 AM) I...   Jul 15 2009, 12:17 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(serotonin @ Jul 15 2009, 01:17 PM) ...   Jul 15 2009, 12:52 PM
jcp   haha, watermarks... Im sorry, but do you know how ...   Jul 15 2009, 01:23 PM
IWontRapeYou   QUOTE(jcp @ Jul 15 2009, 01:23 PM) haha, ...   Jul 15 2009, 02:13 PM
fixtatik   QUOTE(jcp @ Jul 15 2009, 02:23 PM) haha, ...   Jul 15 2009, 11:19 PM
tcunningham   QUOTE(fixtatik @ Jul 16 2009, 12:19 AM) W...   Jul 16 2009, 03:03 AM
Mikeplyts   Plus, if they're smart enough, they can just c...   Jul 15 2009, 01:56 PM
serotonin   Or you can do a better job with the watermark or s...   Jul 15 2009, 01:58 PM
Mikeplyts   DISS seriously though. I always leave credits o...   Jul 15 2009, 02:14 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Mikeplyts @ Jul 15 2009, 02:56 PM) ...   Jul 15 2009, 03:25 PM
Mikeplyts   I never said I was frustrated and I don't thin...   Jul 15 2009, 03:47 PM
IWontRapeYou   I don't think he is talking about you, just pe...   Jul 15 2009, 03:54 PM
JupiterShow   QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Jul 15 2009, 09:54 P...   Aug 17 2009, 07:23 PM
Mikeplyts   oh, LOL. sorry Josh. Who did "invent...   Jul 15 2009, 04:14 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(tcunningham @ Jul 16 2009, 04:03 AM...   Jul 16 2009, 08:47 AM
tcunningham   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 16 2009, 09:47 AM) Y...   Jul 16 2009, 08:59 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(tcunningham @ Jul 16 2009, 09:59 AM...   Jul 16 2009, 12:54 PM
fixtatik   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 16 2009, 09:47 AM) Y...   Jul 17 2009, 10:23 AM
Uronacid   QUOTEThere's nothing wrong with using snippets...   Jul 17 2009, 10:49 AM
AutumnSunsets   ..uhh you gots are getting off topic.. the only p...   Jul 15 2009, 09:36 PM
AutumnSunsets   bo-ya!! you're awesome fixatik! i ...   Jul 16 2009, 12:36 AM
SwaggLookinGood   so what if you look at a layout and you got a idea...   Jul 16 2009, 04:30 AM
tcunningham   QUOTE(SwaggLookinGood @ Jul 16 2009, 05:3...   Jul 16 2009, 04:55 AM
fixtatik   ^ Exactly. Without protection, you're screwed....   Jul 17 2009, 03:40 PM
AutumnSunsets   -silence-   Jul 17 2009, 04:42 PM
elletricity   To the original question, most of the time, I don...   Jul 17 2009, 07:06 PM
AutumnSunsets   i know it requires emotional energy but sometimes ...   Jul 17 2009, 07:57 PM
Butterface89   QUOTE(AutumnSunsets @ Jul 17 2009, 07:57 ...   Sep 25 2010, 03:21 PM
goofipinay   I use stuff, but I leave the credits it's all ...   Jul 17 2009, 11:25 PM
Zerobang   Stealing Images is one thing but stealing a code? ...   Aug 6 2009, 08:14 PM
innerdemon25   QUOTEI don't think he is talking about you, ju...   Aug 21 2009, 09:48 AM
outloudinmyhead   I have a question. I'm still really new at all...   Sep 17 2009, 11:24 PM
jcp   QUOTE(outloudinmyhead @ Sep 17 2009, 11:2...   Sep 17 2009, 11:29 PM
venti-anemoi   QUOTESo...how should creditting be handled in the ...   Sep 29 2010, 01:08 AM
RussianRoulette   like someone stated code is a code its not like th...   Nov 15 2009, 09:50 PM
1angel3   QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Jul 13 2009, 09:40 P...   Jan 21 2010, 07:42 PM
Beenly   There should be like a really cool self-defense im...   Jan 21 2010, 08:25 PM
1angel3   QUOTE(Beenly @ Jan 21 2010, 06:25 PM) The...   Jan 25 2010, 01:13 AM
readysetmove   There is no way to get people to not steal layouts...   Apr 13 2010, 03:30 PM
gelionie   If they clearly know the creator of the icon/graph...   Sep 25 2010, 03:31 PM
emarielayouts   I feel coding is something that should be shared. ...   Nov 4 2010, 12:47 PM
SkyeDesign   I've had people do this to me. I've made s...   Aug 4 2011, 03:49 AM
boot   watermarks are ugly so I'll remove them if pos...   Aug 4 2011, 02:57 PM


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