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 Jul 15 2006, 10:44 PM
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 dripping destruction  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929  |
yea, someone head to the other one and close it.
i'm going to lay down a few ground rules here. 1- i don't care what your stance is, and no one else does either 2- use logic and facts to try to convince us to believe something. it's called a debate not a disorganized rumble. 3- be civil. a lot of you seem to have problems with this. 4- no links, unless neccisary. no quoting outside sources over a paragraph. USE YOUR OWN WORDS. if i don't care what you think about it, why would i care what someone else thinks? and really. stop using other people's arguements. alright. and you know, keeping your posts short isn't a bad thing either. so, the set up: should abortion be made illegal in the united states |
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Jul 24 2006, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE n animal is alive and helpless, however they have no right to life. So, the qualities of being alive and helpless do not exactly equate a right to life, or any rights for that matter. I would argue that a fetus is so impersonal, worthless, and so little sentient that it is not much unlike a common animal. In fact, in many cases, the common animal is far more human-like than a fetus. Just as I have no ill feelings in knowing that animals are killed for the convienence and comfort of specific types of food, I have no ill feelings in knowing that unborn children are being aborted at the will of their mother. Until that child is born, our society has no real way to recognize it as having personhood and rights with it. Once the child is born, the mother takes a legal obligation towards its well-being, this is meaningful and useful. However, forcing a mother to treat an unborn child as if it were a full-fledged person, just like you or I, is inherently rediculous as the unborn child is so little lile you or I. wtf a fetus is not worthless, and animals do have a right to life a fetus is a non developed person |
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Jul 24 2006, 05:45 PM
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 daughter of sin Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 |
QUOTE(ECD & C0 @ Jul 24 2006, 6:44 PM)  wtf a fetus is not worthless, and animals do have a right to life a fetus is a non developed person How do they have a right to live? Animals don't have rights. |
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Jul 25 2006, 08:20 PM
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Alright I know I said I was done, but hey apparently I am not so stronged willed. First of all ^^^ AMEN! There are tons of other children, LIVING FULLY DEVELOPED humans that need our care.
and also, QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 24 2006, 3:45 PM) How do they have a right to live? Animals don't have rights. WTFTWTFTWTFTWTF. Who are you to decide which life on this earth has the RIGHT to be here? Of course they have a right, or else well they wouldn't be alive in the first place. It is all the same with abortion. People think that they are oh so powerful and get to go around deciding who gets to live and die. But just as in an animals case, that is the animals own right, as it is the mothers. |
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Jul 26 2006, 09:26 AM
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daughter of sin Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 |
QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 25 2006, 9:20 PM) WTFTWTFTWTFTWTF. Who are you to decide which life on this earth has the RIGHT to be here? Of course they have a right, or else well they wouldn't be alive in the first place. It is all the same with abortion. People think that they are oh so powerful and get to go around deciding who gets to live and die. But just as in an animals case, that is the animals own right, as it is the mothers. Are you kidding me? You honestly think animals have "rights"? Let me tell you what rights are: QUOTE Rights are scientific, moral principles that guarantee freedom of action in a social context. The source of an individual's right to life is one's nature as a rational being. Rights are requirements necessary for an individual to live as a rational being (human) in a society of men. Only human beings have rights. Do you think ants have rights? Butterflies? Bees? Fish? Animals don't have rights. Trees are "life", but they do not have rights. And humans are "oh so powerful". We do decide who gets to live and die - you eat meat, don't you? (well, unless you're a vegetarian) |
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Jul 27 2006, 10:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 99 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,520 |
QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 26 2006, 7:26 AM) Are you kidding me? You honestly think animals have "rights"? Let me tell you what rights are: Only human beings have rights. Do you think ants have rights? Butterflies? Bees? Fish? Animals don't have rights. Trees are "life", but they do not have rights. And humans are "oh so powerful". We do decide who gets to live and die - you eat meat, don't you? (well, unless you're a vegetarian) I believe that everything born into life has that right. The only reason I think abortion is alright is because I do not think it is alive. I hate how people think we are so great, and I am sorry if that in any way offends you but I myself respect all forms of life. And no..I do not eat meat. |
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let's see an article... Jul 17 2006, 03:03 PM sadolakced acid obvious to whom?
it must be scientifically proven... Jul 17 2006, 11:58 PM sadolakced acid that much is obvious.
please, read the first post... Jul 18 2006, 12:45 AM iRock cB QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 18 2006, 12:5... Jul 18 2006, 01:03 AM Angelina Taylor QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 18 2006, 2:03 AM) I ... Jul 18 2006, 12:38 PM Mells-Star ^^^
Hmm Interseting I agree with some of the poi... Jul 18 2006, 04:53 PM Angelina Taylor QUOTE(Mells-Star @ Jul 18 2006, 5:53... Jul 18 2006, 09:34 PM iRock cB QUOTE(forza @ Jul 18 2006, 4:59 AM) I fee... Jul 18 2006, 09:45 PM Mells-Star QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 18 2006, 9:45 PM) Of... Jul 18 2006, 11:45 PM Angelina Taylor QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 18 2006, 10:45 PM) S... Jul 19 2006, 10:01 AM forza QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 18 2006, 9:45 PM) We... Jul 19 2006, 02:26 PM iRock cB QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 19 2006, 12:0... Jul 19 2006, 06:58 PM forza QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 19 2006, 6:58 PM) I ... Jul 19 2006, 08:24 PM Angelina Taylor Wow. First of all, I live in Canada. I don't l... Jul 19 2006, 10:20 PM cashmere deer QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 18 2006, 7:45 PM) As... Jul 19 2006, 06:22 PM sadolakced acid i read the article. it didn't name the studie... Jul 18 2006, 01:33 AM sadolakced acid QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 18 2006, 1:33... Jul 18 2006, 11:07 PM forza I feel that you're an idealist trying to woo t... Jul 18 2006, 03:59 AM cashmere deer As has been said many times, this issue has been a... Jul 18 2006, 11:28 PM cashmere deer I'm sorry, but I really can't take anythin... Jul 19 2006, 07:03 PM iRock cB ^ Wow, that has to be the most ignorant thing I ha... Jul 19 2006, 07:21 PM cashmere deer ^I don't exactly think you have the right to c... Jul 19 2006, 07:35 PM iRock cB ^ Last I checked, it was the fathers child too.
O... Jul 19 2006, 07:52 PM cashmere deer QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 19 2006, 5:52 PM) ^ ... Jul 19 2006, 08:36 PM rawtheekuh. QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 19 2006, 7:52 PM) ^ ... Jul 19 2006, 08:36 PM cashmere deer ^^ Agreed. And I mean come on...from what I see yo... Jul 19 2006, 08:43 PM sadolakced acid number one- we don't give a shit about your op... Jul 19 2006, 09:35 PM Mells-Star sadolakced acid I don't give a shit about you... Jul 20 2006, 12:47 AM forza ^ No one gives a shit about anyone's opinion. ... Jul 20 2006, 12:50 AM Mells-Star ^^^ Yer Der I no I was jus expressing my own opini... Jul 20 2006, 12:54 AM forza QUOTE(Mells-Star @ Jul 20 2006, 12:5... Jul 20 2006, 01:27 AM disco infiltrator QUOTE(Mells-Star @ Jul 20 2006, 12:5... Jul 21 2006, 11:19 AM sadolakced acid what's with you people and opinions?
don... Jul 20 2006, 01:59 AM Angelina Taylor By the way, I really don't want to continue th... Jul 20 2006, 09:27 AM iRock cB QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 20 2006, 10:2... Jul 21 2006, 11:46 PM Angelina Taylor QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 22 2006, 12:46 AM) A... Jul 22 2006, 08:03 AM cashmere deer QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 20 2006, 7:27... Jul 24 2006, 01:29 PM rawtheekuh. Mells-Star:
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And, I've before posted this humon... Jul 21 2006, 01:11 PM I Shot JFK oh good, because i suddenly registered that it see... Jul 21 2006, 01:13 PM baby_in_blue i think its the womans choice.. however i also thi... Jul 21 2006, 04:11 PM smallsXalmighty I think it is the womans choice if she wants to or... Jul 21 2006, 04:17 PM ChaosPunx I support it because i think its the womens choice... Jul 22 2006, 10:43 AM ECD & C0 QUOTEWhat is it that gives an unborn child more va... Jul 23 2006, 01:38 PM Acid Bath Slayer QUOTE(ECD & C0 @ Jul 23 2006, 1:38 PM... Jul 23 2006, 02:06 PM sadolakced acid america is not the land of the moral high ground. ... Jul 23 2006, 08:24 PM ThatBrokenGirl. One word.
Adopiton.
Its better than killing a Huma... Jul 23 2006, 08:31 PM Angelina Taylor ^ Um the fetus isn't a human being in the peri... Jul 23 2006, 08:37 PM sadolakced acid banning abortions isn't really a life changing... Jul 23 2006, 08:43 PM I Shot JFK QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 24 2006, 2:43... Jul 24 2006, 11:15 AM Endless_Symphony QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 25 2006, 9:20 P... Jul 25 2006, 10:08 PM Angelina Taylor QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 27 2006, 11:23 ... Jul 28 2006, 11:09 PM Endless_Symphony after replying more times than i can count, i have... Jul 25 2006, 12:38 AM msladyliberty I like Endless Symphony's arguments.
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you can belie... Jul 29 2006, 02:17 AM cashmere deer For you to say that I am completely incorrect is a... Jul 29 2006, 04:53 PM Angelina Taylor QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 29 2006, 5:53 P... Jul 29 2006, 05:11 PM cashmere deer QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 29 2006, 3:11... Jul 29 2006, 05:47 PM Angelina Taylor QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 29 2006, 6:47 P... Jul 29 2006, 07:39 PM cashmere deer QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 29 2006, 5:39... Jul 29 2006, 09:19 PM Angelina Taylor QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 29 2006, 10:19 ... Jul 30 2006, 09:38 PM Angelina Taylor I did leave her to believe what she wanted to beli... Jul 29 2006, 01:19 PM rawtheekuh. QUOTEIf you were to say brake into your neighbors ... Jul 29 2006, 05:11 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 29 2006, 4:53 P... Jul 29 2006, 09:43 PM cashmere deer ...i would have though it would be the other way a... Jul 29 2006, 09:58 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 29 2006, 9:58 P... Aug 2 2006, 02:14 AM xnarcotic as much as everyone is making their points about t... Aug 2 2006, 04:20 AM |
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