KENTUCKY FRIED CRUELTY., pam anderson is hot. <3 |
KENTUCKY FRIED CRUELTY., pam anderson is hot. <3 |
Sep 1 2008, 06:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,665 Joined: Aug 2008 Member No: 676,364 |
I like kFC, but really now? .... This needs to stop. |
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Sep 1 2008, 07:46 PM
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DDR \\ I'm Dee :) Group: Mentor Posts: 8,662 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,020 |
Ok, it seems like a lot of people are misinformed. Beenly, in my opinion you should do some research on what you are so passionate about "saving", before you tell other people that are not informed about what is happening. You can't call something cruelty just because if it happened to you right now it would be cruelty.
For example, many birds beaks are cauterized. This is something that PETA has been getting hot headed over, because the animal can feel it. BUT, this usually happens at birth, so it is less tramatic for the animal. A simular thing happens with cows, called dehorning. Either they are put in and entrapment and have their horns physically removed and then a vet places powder on the wound to help their blood clot and keep from bleeding. Or, the more humane way, their owners place a thick paste on their horns before they are weaned from thier mother's milk and it slowly burns away their horns. By time both the chicken and the cow are adults, they will not have remembered this happening to them. Do you eat meat? Why do you only have an issue with birds? Why don't you have an issue with the treatment of cattle? Maybe you should start waving a red flag at the people who drink milk, because they are exploiting the nutritional resources that are intended for it's young? |
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Sep 1 2008, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,665 Joined: Aug 2008 Member No: 676,364 |
Ok, it seems like a lot of people are misinformed. Beenly, in my opinion you should do some research on what you are so passionate about "saving", before you tell other people that are not informed about what is happening. You can't call something cruelty just because if it happened to you right now it would be cruelty. For example, many birds beaks are cauterized. This is something that PETA has been getting hot headed over, because the animal can feel it. BUT, this usually happens at birth, so it is less tramatic for the animal. A simular thing happens with cows, called dehorning. Either they are put in and entrapment and have their horns physically removed and then a vet places powder on the wound to help their blood clot and keep from bleeding. Or, the more humane way, their owners place a thick paste on their horns before they are weaned from their mother's milk and it slowly burns away their horns. By time both the chicken and the cow are adults, they will not have remembered this happening to them. Do you eat meat? Why do you only have an issue with birds? Why don't you have an issue with the treatment of cattle? Maybe you should start waving a red flag at the people who drink milk, because they are exploiting the nutritional resources that are intended for it's young? Dee, you said yourself they were stupid. They are actually intelligent. When cows are dehorned, they still live. Chickens loose their beaks, and they basically starve to death. Chickens or Cows won't probably live long, because the fact they've suffered this torture, and would basically die by default. QUOTE I replied with a crying face cause I dont like E fights but your obviously acting way to immature about the situation. Again let me say it with caps this time to your second statement I NEVER SAID CHICKENS ARE STUPID I dont give a rats ass about their intelligence level Chickens are chickens, okay you eat it, I eat it and so does almost everyone else. I dont see a reason why we should give chickens so much attention. Also you have never proved to me that chickens are dinosaurs. and like Karmakiller said, animals have lower intelligence levels then humans they arent going to get emotional scars for life. You forgot absinthe, and mackenziee. and if you want the proof it's HERE. USA TODAY. AND here for a more detailed. ------------------------------------- I'm logging off now, for school. If anyone has anything else to say, I'll reply back tomorrow at 7 PM EASTERN TIME. |
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Sep 1 2008, 08:08 PM
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DDR \\ I'm Dee :) Group: Mentor Posts: 8,662 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,020 |
Dee, you said yourself they were stupid. They are actually intelligent. When cows are dehorned, they still live. Chickens loose their beaks, and they basically starve to death. Chickens or Cows won't probably live long, because the fact they've suffered this torture, and would basically die by default. I decided to compare the two, because it ultimately happens to both of them for the reason. If chickens have beaks, they will kill either other when they fight. And if cattle have horns they will kill each other either after they are weaned and try to suck on each other or when they fight. It also poses a big risk to the person taking care of the animal. The term "debeaking" in it's self is a misconception. The entire beak of the chicken is not removed, therefore it does not starve to death. If it is done in birds before they are 10 days old, the do not feel the "torture": QUOTE If beak trimming is severe because of improper procedure or done in older birds, the neuromas may persist, and the emitted action potentials are abnormal, which suggest that beak trimmed older birds may experience chronic pain. However, neuromas do not persist in the beaks of birds subjected to proper trimming at 10 days of age or earlier. For this reason, when conservative beak trimming (50% or less of the beak) is done correctly in birds 10 days of age or younger, formation of neuromas is prevented and the keratinized tissue regenerates. This is what I meant when I said that you should inform yourself before you try to inform other people. |
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