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Designer Thieves
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post Aug 17 2009, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Jul 15 2009, 09:54 PM) *
I don't think he is talking about you, just people in general.

As far as codes go I agree with you since we didn't "invent" the code.


That's like saying it's okay to steal a piece of writing off someone since they didn't invent the English language. It doesn't matter if we "invented" code we still manipulated tags to do what we want and we own that.

I hope that made sense I'm sleepy.

As for what to do when you find someone stealing your work, I'd just ask them to take it down and if they say no and they're not making money out of it I wouldn't take it further since it's a waste of time. If you're worried about people thinking your stealing work you could add a disclaimer to the designs in question, saying that you're aware it's been stolen and hopefully people will believe you :)
 
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post Aug 21 2009, 09:48 AM
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I don't think he is talking about you, just people in general.

As far as codes go I agree with you since we didn't "invent" the code.


Lol, I totally agree with you on that part, because I mean yeah sure it can be upsetting but you cant really do anything. Ive received many messages before about me "stealing codes" because codes can be some what similar. They literally said to me that they were going to take legal actions against me if I continue to use their copyrighted code. Which makes no sense there is no copy righting code. Thats like saying im going to copyright the breaker code and no one can use it unless they pay me for it. which dumb people like that really get on my nerves. Designs however can be copyrighted, its a piece of art that you created unlike code, which is premade.



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post Sep 17 2009, 11:24 PM
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I have a question. I'm still really new at all of this design stuff and learning to code from scratch. Prior to this, I came on here and basically just added snippets from the createblog donated content and basically browsed by firebug for a certain effect I liked and copied, pasted, and then editted it up to my liking and to better fit my purpose using the stuff I DO know and further have learned to identify things on MySpace and how to manipulate more or less in CSS to hide only specific headers and that various bunch of stuff. (Never stolen someones full on code because I do think it's wrong to take away from a layout setup or website setup by completely duplicating it for yourself and only shows your own lack of creativity, and further ends you in being called out if you rip a code. I let codes inspire me.

But, ok, like I said, I'm a beginner in designer in the bigger picture. Can't use flash, jquery or any off that awesome jazz and any javascript I use is via donations on a site when browsing google for an effect I'd like to incorporate, only to end up deleting portions because I don't understand enough about it to force them to cooperate together.

Well, that being said and establishing that I am still new to all of this, I am wondering something.

A lot of my work is done with other people's brushes, and a majority of them don't contain an image in the set or any way to identify who made the set.

I find them via browsing deviant art, various forums who post image packs of nice brushes that I define as a brush, brusheezy and etc. I'm a resource hog and have loads upon loads of brushes and styles and etc that I've found 'round and about. On DeviantArt, I think many expect you to just "remember" where you got the set...and honestly, I don't generally use something until creativity sparks and I go through my resources and by then I DON'T remember who made it or where I even got it for that matter. What should one do in a case such as this?

Furthermore, sometimes when you directly DO link your resources from where you got something and someone who likes the design you did, often goes and gets the set and it further enables them to exactly duplicate your work and offer it elsewhere. And before you know it, the entire community has designated the effect a trend...and it's everywhere. As flattering as it can be, it's maddening.(Something done far too often in design communities)

So...how should creditting be handled in the case of brushes and designer beginners like myself?

And no I don't plan to forever depend on brushes to do things, but I'm simply a graphics maker, not a big time designer. When I find my footing, I do hope to do my own designs from complete scratch.
 
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post Sep 17 2009, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(outloudinmyhead @ Sep 17 2009, 11:24 PM) *
I have a question. I'm still really new at all of this design stuff and learning to code from scratch. Prior to this, I came on here and basically just added snippets from the createblog donated content and basically browsed by firebug for a certain effect I liked and copied, pasted, and then editted it up to my liking and to better fit my purpose using the stuff I DO know and further have learned to identify things on MySpace and how to manipulate more or less in CSS to hide only specific headers and that various bunch of stuff. (Never stolen someones full on code because I do think it's wrong to take away from a layout setup or website setup by completely duplicating it for yourself and only shows your own lack of creativity, and further ends you in being called out if you rip a code. I let codes inspire me.

But, ok, like I said, I'm a beginner in designer in the bigger picture. Can't use flash, jquery or any off that awesome jazz and any javascript I use is via donations on a site when browsing google for an effect I'd like to incorporate, only to end up deleting portions because I don't understand enough about it to force them to cooperate together.

Well, that being said and establishing that I am still new to all of this, I am wondering something.

A lot of my work is done with other people's brushes, and a majority of them don't contain an image in the set or any way to identify who made the set.

I find them via browsing deviant art, various forums who post image packs of nice brushes that I define as a brush, brusheezy and etc. I'm a resource hog and have loads upon loads of brushes and styles and etc that I've found 'round and about. On DeviantArt, I think many expect you to just "remember" where you got the set...and honestly, I don't generally use something until creativity sparks and I go through my resources and by then I DON'T remember who made it or where I even got it for that matter. What should one do in a case such as this?

Furthermore, sometimes when you directly DO link your resources from where you got something and someone who likes the design you did, often goes and gets the set and it further enables them to exactly duplicate your work and offer it elsewhere. And before you know it, the entire community has designated the effect a trend...and it's everywhere. As flattering as it can be, it's maddening.(Something done far too often in design communities)

So...how should creditting be handled in the case of brushes and designer beginners like myself?

And no I don't plan to forever depend on brushes to do things, but I'm simply a graphics maker, not a big time designer. When I find my footing, I do hope to do my own designs from complete scratch.


t;dr

So...how should creditting be handled in the case of brushes and designer beginners like myself?

Just dont take a resouce unless it is copyright free or free for commercial use.
 
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post Nov 15 2009, 09:50 PM
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like someone stated code is a code
its not like they sat there and made a code
by pressing random key's code's are available every where
and there is only one or two way to use a code and im sure
billions of people have the same coding but now designing
is a different story if they copy everything layout wise
colors style then rent about it but codes?
 
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post Dec 3 2009, 12:18 AM
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Designing thieves on createblog? You don't say.. _dry.gif

QUOTE(' post='3218080 @ Jul 17 2009, 04:40 PM)
Its normal though to be angry. I remember back in the day I used to make these funky designs and get pissed when someone jocked them, but you just learn that, so what, you know? Were you gonna get paid anyway. Naw.


This, a million times.
Oh the enormous lists I could make of people that take my stuff. Overlays, defaults, even my About Me's word for word, you name it.
In the end, code is code.
 
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post Jan 21 2010, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Jul 13 2009, 09:40 PM) *
I spam them with gay porn


^ Ha ha biggrin.gif

I use to care a lot but when someone takes my work and if it's my actual work meaning that they didn't make any changes but take the credits off then I will contact them and ask them politely to put it back but if they don't reply then I just forget about it. I don't care that much anymore especially about my layouts and coding. Being credited is nice and I will make an attempt to get it but I won't make it a huge deal like I use to. BUT if someone makes money off my work then it's war time.
 
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post Jan 21 2010, 08:25 PM
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There should be like a really cool self-defense image system.
If someone tries to steal your work, they get zapped by their keyboard or something, haha.
 
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post Jan 25 2010, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(Beenly @ Jan 21 2010, 06:25 PM) *
There should be like a really cool self-defense image system.
If someone tries to steal your work, they get zapped by their keyboard or something, haha.


XD.gif Wtf?
 
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post Apr 13 2010, 03:30 PM
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There is no way to get people to not steal layouts. For images you can watermark it, I know it sort of takes away from the image but at least it will be safe, unless the person stealing it has mad Photoshop skills, but then why would they need to steal it in the first place? As for code, I agree and disagree with some of the replies on here. I seriously doubt anyone on this site is one of the inventors of code. Obviously people had to make codes based off of already existing codes. I object, however, to people outright copying a style-sheet without that persons permission, because that person took time to make that style-sheet, it's the same as taking an image. The only way I can see moderately protecting your code is to disable right clicking, but I heard there are even ways around that.
 
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post Sep 25 2010, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(AutumnSunsets @ Jul 17 2009, 07:57 PM) *
i know it requires emotional energy but sometimes i just get so angry, the numbers are unlimited but i still try to get ppl to credit, no matter whose material they are using, it doesn't have to be mine, i've found some sites use my affiliates material without credited, and i mail them letting them know to always credit.

the only way to lose the stealers to to shut down the site, because
even if you only offer previews of the real design, people get the idea
and use it.



Hi! I wonder when people are to place "credits" and on "what", because all of these icons and avatars I see here have no credits to speak of under them (who made the brushes, copied images, ect.). It's still using other artist's materials to help create something.
I don't see the difference between that and layouts. Also, no offense but how many images have people "stolen"/lifted to help create their own layouts on here (layouts,icons, whatever). You know? Now suddenly "Stealing" sounds like a harsh word:D
 
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post Sep 25 2010, 03:31 PM
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If they clearly know the creator of the icon/graphic, then they should acknowledge the creator's effort by giving credit. Just because some people don't give credit and "borrow" others' work doesn't mean you should do the same. Just a matter of courtesy.
 
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post Sep 29 2010, 01:08 AM
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So...how should creditting be handled in the case of brushes and designer beginners like myself?


Something I do is make a new brush set with all the brushes I've downloaded from one place and name the brush file the name of the site where I got it. That way it's easy to identify where you got it from, and you can just google the name to find the link to the site for links back. As for images that you yourself have made into brushes, I'd suggest doing something similar. Stuff you find floating around dA or elsewhere without credits.... well, you can't really do anything about that except hope the creator doesn't see and chew your ass off for it. (But you can always explain and credit them when that happens.)

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Hi! I wonder when people are to place "credits" and on "what", because all of these icons and avatars I see here have no credits to speak of under them (who made the brushes, copied images, ect.). It's still using other artist's materials to help create something.
I don't see the difference between that and layouts. Also, no offense but how many images have people "stolen"/lifted to help create their own layouts on here (layouts,icons, whatever). You know? Now suddenly "Stealing" sounds like a harsh word:D


That's a good point. I think the general consensus is that avatars/icons and banners are just too friggin' small to put credits on them. Some sites that have loads of avatars made by one person (not like cB where people submit their work) have a credits page where they list all the places where they get their resources. In general, though, people aren't really going to care if their stock photo or brush was used in an icon without credit.
 
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post Nov 4 2010, 12:47 PM
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I feel coding is something that should be shared. I've come across designers who have refused to share coding on how to do something, especially on myspace where there so much you need to consider.

As far as designs, it's a very gray area. If the design is copied EXACTLY then you do have a problem. If the person is not making a profit on it, I don't see much harm, just ask them to remove it or credit you properly. I offered a lot of free layouts, some of which the ideas came from other layouts. Concepts can be 'copied' I guess but you must change it. Do you know how many iPod myspace layouts there were? I even did one myself and they all pretty much looked alike using the iPod in the center with the while background.

But when designing, if you got the idea from someone else, you should credit it somewhere. It doesn't have to be on the layout itself, but it does need to be somewhere. I got an idea for a layout from another layout I saw on CB, and even submitted that to CB on my old profile emarie2470 and I did credit it in a link on the layout and I think on the description as well. Although the design was not exact, I did get the concept from someone else.
 
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post Aug 4 2011, 03:49 AM
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I've had people do this to me. I've made some graphic designs people take and use with out credit even if it has a watermark. Like this one site that is dedicated for wallpapers. They had one of mine up and they didn't even have a credit as to where they found it. They said they found it via google. All i did was email them and simply say. Hey this is my wallpaper can you please add my credits. And they did just that
 
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watermarks are ugly so I'll remove them if possible, I'll usually leave credit either in the legal information in the footer if it's a web template, otherwise it's probably for personal use anyway (ie wallpaper) so it doesn't matter in my eyes
 

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