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Feb 20 2008, 06:28 PM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
I'm just going to say this once. Just because you cite credit to an artist for using their photos or graphic art does not give you permission to use it. You must submit written approval from the original artists before you use any of their work from now on. Quote them in your comments or send a PM to a design staff or something.
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Feb 20 2008, 07:23 PM
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cake or DEATH Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 631 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 223,586 |
Otherwise, the graphic/layout will be rejected?
I'm tired of seeing layouts that use deviantart images when the designer probably didn't even ask for permission to use it. It's really a simple process. (Guys, if the artist never replies to your email, take the hint and don't use the artwork/photo/whatever.) |
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Feb 20 2008, 07:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
I'm just going to say this once. Just because you cite credit to an artist for using their photos or graphic art does not give you permission to use it. You must submit written approval from the original artists before you use any of their work from now on. Quote them in your comments or send a PM to a design staff or something. What exactly happens if they don't? o.O |
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Feb 20 2008, 07:27 PM
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Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
^ They will get rejected.
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Feb 20 2008, 07:42 PM
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Adobe Addict Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 1,237 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 113,043 |
If the artist specifies that we can use their work with no conditions attached, or only as long as we credit them, do we still have to ask for permission?
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Feb 20 2008, 07:46 PM
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Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
Like, an actual picture or scan of written approval, or the kind of written approval you can type up yourself and forge?
Rach, she said regardless of if you give credit. I dunno 'bout the no strings attached thing though. |
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Feb 20 2008, 07:50 PM
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Carpe Noctem Group: Official Designer Posts: 183 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 592,657 |
What if it's a random image from Photobucket, and we do not know of it's original location?
and also, what if it's an editorial spread from a magazine? I think it's going to be hard to get a popular Fashion Photographer's permission for a couple icons. |
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Feb 20 2008, 07:56 PM
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Addict Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,918 Joined: Jun 2007 Member No: 538,522 |
It may be fairer to limit this more to Deviantart, seeing as CB has more complaints from that networking site than any other.
Any images from Photobucket can be searched for via keywords on DA, voguexdirge. |
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Feb 20 2008, 08:05 PM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
you shouldnt be taking images from photobucket. photobucket and google are not stock photo houses.
if the original creator is giving full creative license for anyone to use their shit, then just copy and paste a statement that says so. |
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Feb 20 2008, 08:11 PM
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Carpe Noctem Group: Official Designer Posts: 183 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 592,657 |
So what about fashion editorials?
I get a bunch of my pics for icons from Fotodecadent on LJ. Do I have to get credit from the poster, or do I simply post a credit to the Photographer. Sorry for all the questions, I'm really not trying to be a bother. :3 |
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Feb 20 2008, 08:28 PM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
just credit the source. i think we're all okay with people using scans, because the magazine doesnt really give a shit. we're not making money from these layouts.
but a different story would be if you go on someones photography site where they have clearly said not to use their work, and you use it anyway and think just giving them credit is going to make it okay. photobucket and google images are forbidden. we dont know where these images are coming from. |
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Feb 20 2008, 08:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Designer Posts: 441 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 330,617 |
I just want to mention that sxc.hu is a good place to get stock photography. The people who submit photographs there tend to really like people to use their photos for things, and will happily give you permission (I've discovered this from experience). So maybe it would be good to look there before photobucket-ing/googling.
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Feb 20 2008, 08:56 PM
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Member Group: Member Posts: 11 Joined: Sep 2007 Member No: 575,371 |
Stock.xchng is a good source but you must read the license carefully. Some images still require you ask the photographer for permission to use it (And manipulate it in photoshop or whatever as well).
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Feb 20 2008, 10:38 PM
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Carpe Noctem Group: Official Designer Posts: 183 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 592,657 |
Thank you all so much for the tips and clarification!
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Feb 21 2008, 12:16 AM
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An original Harry Potter fan Group: Official Member Posts: 1,469 Joined: Jul 2007 Member No: 552,023 |
What about Common Celebrity pictures that are all over the web like this.-->>LINK
I have seen that picture everywhere. Or what about screen caps from t.v. shows and Movies |
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Feb 21 2008, 12:44 AM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
Ok none of us give a shit about celebrity photos because half of them are out there for publicity anyway. I'm talking about taking photos and graphics from someone's deviantart or personal portfolio.
really, it's a very simple concept, people. |
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Feb 21 2008, 12:46 AM
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t-t-t-toyaaa Group: Official Member Posts: 19,821 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,270 |
Celebrities are a different story. You just linked a website right? Just credit that. Guys it's a simple concept. :)
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Feb 21 2008, 01:04 AM
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An original Harry Potter fan Group: Official Member Posts: 1,469 Joined: Jul 2007 Member No: 552,023 |
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Feb 21 2008, 10:50 AM
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mercenary on call Group: Member Posts: 926 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 447,606 |
I just want to mention that sxc.hu is a good place to get stock photography. The people who submit photographs there tend to really like people to use their photos for things, and will happily give you permission (I've discovered this from experience). So maybe it would be good to look there before photobucket-ing/googling. that is what I do |
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Feb 21 2008, 07:23 PM
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badassified Group: Member Posts: 36 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 621,426 |
Heck yes! Thank you :)!! I was wondering when people would get around to reinforcing the rules about using other people's artwork/stock without proper credit.
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Feb 21 2008, 08:02 PM
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Resource Center Tyrant Group: Official Member Posts: 2,263 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,306 |
Otherwise, the graphic/layout will be rejected? I'm tired of seeing layouts that use deviantart images when the designer probably didn't even ask for permission to use it. It's really a simple process. (Guys, if the artist never replies to your email, take the hint and don't use the artwork/photo/whatever.) Well, that would ideally be the case--to reject it if they have proof that the designer gave them permission, but I think we'll end up rejecting more good ones than not. I can't say for sure, but how would we know indefinitely that it's actual proof instead of them just making it up, provided that they give credit, as well? Are we, as reviewers, now have to check DeviantART for validity? |
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Feb 21 2008, 09:33 PM
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HAHA I love korn! Group: Member Posts: 85 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 618,986 |
Makes perfect sense to me :P
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Feb 22 2008, 10:06 AM
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Go fall off a cliff. ^.^ Group: Member Posts: 41 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 601,263 |
Good Idea. =]
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Feb 22 2008, 01:07 PM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
Well, that would ideally be the case--to reject it if they have proof that the designer gave them permission, but I think we'll end up rejecting more good ones than not. I can't say for sure, but how would we know indefinitely that it's actual proof instead of them just making it up, provided that they give credit, as well? Are we, as reviewers, now have to check DeviantART for validity? no, at this point we will have made enough precaution to say we did everything possible to ensure that the work being submitted is their own, and if it isn't we're not liable. |
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Feb 22 2008, 06:21 PM
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Member Group: Member Posts: 11 Joined: Jul 2007 Member No: 550,477 |
..are you guys dumb?
just do what they're asking. it's really not that hard to ask someone if you can use their pictures i dont see why this is such a hard concept to grasp. |
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Feb 23 2008, 09:45 PM
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My life is a daydream. Group: Member Posts: 24 Joined: May 2007 Member No: 529,303 |
Good idea. It's not like there aren't plenty of stock places around.
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Mar 1 2008, 10:59 AM
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[Insert something Witty Here] Group: Member Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 598,828 |
^true. but the good ones you have to pay for
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Mar 1 2008, 10:44 PM
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Newbie Group: Member Posts: 0 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 626,495 |
Do you really think ALL the work you administrators used were ALL authorize by the original artist? If you think we should all get authorization then probably 95% of your users will be threatened and never use your site again? Wait, including me, it would be 96%.
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Mar 2 2008, 07:03 AM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
ok. never use the site again. we don't really care either way.
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Mar 2 2008, 01:50 PM
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[Insert something Witty Here] Group: Member Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 598,828 |
^ agreed
or (god forbid) you use your own images. |
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Mar 2 2008, 03:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,095 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 171,080 |
Do you really think ALL the work you administrators used were ALL authorize by the original artist? If you think we should all get authorization then probably 95% of your users will be threatened and never use your site again? Wait, including me, it would be 96%. Great logic. For you to make a jump from 95% to 96%, there'd only have to be 100 members using this site, which there isn't. One person leaving isn't going to cause a downfall, so go away.
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Mar 2 2008, 03:56 PM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
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Mar 2 2008, 03:57 PM
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Live long and prosper. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 5,525 Joined: Nov 2006 Member No: 478,024 |
Do you really think ALL the work you administrators used were ALL authorize by the original artist? If you think we should all get authorization then probably 95% of your users will be threatened and never use your site again? Wait, including me, it would be 96%. OMG TOO MANY PERCENTS. |
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Mar 2 2008, 04:15 PM
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[Insert something Witty Here] Group: Member Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 598,828 |
^ wtf?
they're right. one member leaving doesn't make a difference. Soon, there will be someone to fill the gap. |
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Mar 5 2008, 12:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 30 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 102,179 |
What if I'm linking to someone's tutorial in a tutorial of my own and the person doesn't get back to me to give me premission?
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Mar 5 2008, 01:03 PM
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Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
I had that as my avatar on another forum a few years back. I'm curious as to why you'd be linking a different tutorial on one that you are submitting. I'm sure it would be legit, but if I were reviewing the tutorial, it would be an auto red flag. It's not a graphic, but you should still have permission from the tutorial's original author if you are using material from their tutorial. |
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Mar 8 2008, 12:09 AM
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Newbie Group: Member Posts: 0 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 626,147 |
how about if you did your own art/photo/etc? how do we show proof of that?
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Mar 8 2008, 12:23 AM
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Resource Center Tyrant Group: Official Member Posts: 2,263 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,306 |
I think we can usually tell and make an educated guess whether or not you made it. I've seen some tremendous things submitted by overall average designers; therefore, it was obviously not made by them and I reject it for failing to provide credit. If you've used any stock photography from DeviantART or anything else that wasn't made by you, we expect you to respect copyrights and to inform us. It's basically a designer's rule of thumb.
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Mar 8 2008, 01:15 AM
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This bag is not a toy. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,090 Joined: Oct 2007 Member No: 583,108 |
To add to what Whitney just said, if you did take or make the picture used in the layout, it wouldn't hurt to say so. You did it, why not brag? It helps us both out.
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Mar 8 2008, 03:35 AM
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Newbie Group: Member Posts: 0 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 458,263 |
It's basic copyrighting law people...look it up on wikipedia, or whatever gets you by. If you can go through the effort to put so much time into these layouts, you owe it to yourselves to look into it. Anyone who's even thinking about getting into design (whether it be professionally or on a site like this, or dA) needs to have a basic understanding of creative commons and fair use rules.
Images that have been around for a certain number of years fall under the fair use umbrella. The celebrity issue is a little different. That depends on a lot of things, because the copyright technically belongs to the photographer in many cases. You simply CAN NOT use other people's work for your own without their explicit permission. Use some common sense. I just don't think it's that much to ask to have a little integrity. Either get the permission you need, make your own images (now there's an idea), or leave. People are going to quit putting their stuff up (or put big ugly watermarks all over them) because it gets stolen. Obviously there's no way to guarantee that stolen art doesn't get through, but I think the point is to make everyone stop and think about what their putting into their designs. There are a few sites to look at for free stock too. It's worth doing the research. It might not always be the highest quality but there are good ones and with some skills you can turn them into amazing designs. Glance at the terms of service pages with royalty-free photo sites, most say you can use them for your own designs as long as you're not selling the actual file as your own work. www.morguefile.com http://www.pachd.com/free-images/index.html Sorry this was so long...I just felt like I had to throw my 2..er..10..cents in. |
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Mar 9 2008, 09:34 AM
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Newbie Group: Member Posts: 1 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 628,885 |
Hi, I'm French. Where mark a permission? ( Sorry for English, I am not very strong )
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Mar 9 2008, 11:57 AM
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Resource Center Tyrant Group: Official Member Posts: 2,263 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,306 |
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Mar 10 2008, 11:43 AM
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revolution + desire Group: Member Posts: 205 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 284,328 |
about time.
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Mar 12 2008, 10:20 PM
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宇宙人です。 Group: Member Posts: 51 Joined: Feb 2006 Member No: 381,062 |
This has been up for quite a long time and though it mentions fanart, I think it SHOULD apply to all works of online artists.
OFP |
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Mar 21 2008, 03:08 PM
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Comatose Prodigy Group: Member Posts: 114 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 630,536 |
Er, I have a quick question. What if the picture comes from a movie or video game? Should I just put their web address in a credit box or something?
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Mar 21 2008, 05:12 PM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
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Mar 21 2008, 05:25 PM
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Comatose Prodigy Group: Member Posts: 114 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 630,536 |
eh, right...
wrong topic thx! |
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Mar 23 2008, 09:02 PM
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Napple Hunter Group: Member Posts: 100 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 631,472 |
What about stock photography off of createBlog?
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Mar 24 2008, 04:32 AM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
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Mar 24 2008, 07:37 AM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
Just to be clear, you cannot copy a website's layout (such as hollisterco.com) and then put your own content on top of it. That is copyright infringement to the fullest. Please do not do this for any layouts you submit as a resource to the site, and/or for your own cb profile layout.
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Mar 24 2008, 08:04 PM
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Newbie Group: Member Posts: 0 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 594,274 |
no offense but anyone could simply make up a permission statement. anyway most of the people on createblog use photobucket, i can gurantee with putting this in effect will limit your layouts coming in. you should just ask everyone to provide a link for the images they use if it comes from deviantart, require them to ask permission.
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Mar 24 2008, 10:04 PM
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t-t-t-toyaaa Group: Official Member Posts: 19,821 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,270 |
If it limits how many we get , what's wrong with that? It's better than us having to go back and delete tons of layout because people stole graphics/images . It's not a hard concept and if people stop submitting layouts over it , honestly that's not our problem. Not to mention, most layout designers should not have a problem with it. If you do that's you.
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Mar 24 2008, 10:42 PM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
honestly most of the people that jock suck anyway, and we dont really need their submissions.
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Mar 25 2008, 12:22 AM
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vengeance. Group: Official Member Posts: 3,058 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,024 |
Haha damnnn CB is getting all "blah". ;x
I do find this new 'rule/requirement' highly reasonable. It`s annoying when people just take work. I've seen MANY layouts on here with just MANY images i`ve seem from DA. :\ |
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Mar 29 2008, 11:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 268 Joined: Sep 2007 Member No: 569,515 |
well.. lets see, i normally give all the credits i can think of, i don't use photobucket images except from my own account, and as for deviantart! i save their images to my favorites, and ask them later on. that way they are like, hey! my image is famous in a layout too now! awesome :D stress off my back...some people are complaining to me saying that my layouts have too long credits, i'm thinking if they use my layout and delete the credits, do i get in trouble or do they?
-autumnsunsets,res8zenith |
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Mar 29 2008, 11:23 AM
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Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
no offense but anyone could simply make up a permission statement. anyway most of the people on createblog use photobucket, i can gurantee with putting this in effect will limit your layouts coming in. you should just ask everyone to provide a link for the images they use if it comes from deviantart, require them to ask permission. We can always email the person who supposedly gave permission. If there's doubt, we can ask for links as well. I'd rather have less layouts than have a bunch of jocked ones. res8zenith - Technically they would get in trouble, but since your the 'code' owner, it's up to you to keep the integrity of the original artist's wishes. Many designers ask that their coding doesn't get altered. |
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Apr 7 2008, 01:39 PM
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Newbie Group: Member Posts: 0 Joined: Apr 2008 Member No: 638,519 |
I'm just going to say this once. Just because you cite credit to an artist for using their photos or graphic art does not give you permission to use it. You must submit written approval from the original artists before you use any of their work from now on. Quote them in your comments or send a PM to a design staff or something. So what do you do in the case of this layout: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/code.php?id=16068 The brushes used in this aren't even mentioned, let alone anything indicating that the artist has permission to use them. The brushes belong to: http://www.inobscuro.com |
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Apr 7 2008, 01:42 PM
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i did your boyfriend Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
When someone offers resources like brushes for public use, i am fairly sure that it's okay for people to use them as they see fit. Offering brushes openly to the public constitutes as permission.
Again, stock resources do not have to be cited unless the owner states specifically that they want credit. |
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Oct 24 2008, 10:56 AM
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Newbie Group: Member Posts: 1 Joined: Oct 2008 Member No: 691,215 |
Good call on this post, as a contributer to both the payed and free world of stock photography and design... I know how it feels when I am asked permission for use and when I find poeple redistributing or even selling my work as their own!
If it hasen't been mentioned a few good resources are: Stock Exchange www.sxc.hu This is a free stock community with good caliber work- the usage restrictions are under the photo and range from free for website and non for profits to notifying the artist to getting their permission. **Its always good to practice good manners and treat the work like it was your own- a thank you and I am using this comment goes a long way. People are generally understanding and will give their images away if you show them the beautiful art you have created with them to grace blog sites all over the internet!- I know I am! Another great free resource is Morge file http://www.morguefile.com/ Same edicate when using their work- We want our work to be used- just remember to practice common courtesy:) See a good list of free and shared work here: http://www.photoshoptalent.com/photoshop-links/ Happy designing everyone Hope this helps |
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Oct 24 2008, 09:11 PM
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Newbie Group: Member Posts: 1 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 589,126 |
Otherwise, the graphic/layout will be rejected? I'm tired of seeing layouts that use deviantart images when the designer probably didn't even ask for permission to use it. It's really a simple process. (Guys, if the artist never replies to your email, take the hint and don't use the artwork/photo/whatever.) I totally agree! Not only that I DO not like seeing people use backgrounds from photobucket. I mean come'on guys! |
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May 12 2009, 06:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 268 Joined: Sep 2007 Member No: 569,515 |
all i know is that every time i use something that ISN'T MINE but i'm still going to use it, i ask, comment, or message that person who DID create that graphic that i want to use. afterwards when i have used it, i credit it not only on the layout, but on my site credits under THANKS.
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