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post Oct 15 2009, 09:32 PM
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i have 4gb of 1067 mhz ddr3 ram and a 2.53ghz intel dual core 2 duo processor and NVIDIA GeForce 9400M so i would have to guess that my hard drive is the bottelneck because it is only 5400rpm.
 
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post Oct 15 2009, 09:50 PM
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Your GPU is the bottleneck.

My computer is pretty much leveled out, but my temperatures are a little higher than ideal. So I guess it would be my cooling. But really that's just because I've overclocked everything.


At stock speed my CPU idles at 28C, GPU at 40C, and case at 1C; but where I'm at I've got 55C, 50C, 3C.
 
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post Oct 15 2009, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(Buttsex @ Oct 15 2009, 09:50 PM) *
Your GPU is the bottleneck.

My computer is pretty much leveled out, but my temperatures are a little higher than ideal. So I guess it would be my cooling. But really that's just because I've overclocked everything.
At stock speed my CPU idles at 28C, GPU at 40C, and case at 1C; but where I'm at I've got 55C, 50C, 3C.

again, how does a gpu effect performance? its just graphics?
 
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post Oct 16 2009, 06:30 PM
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Mostly, yes. I remember my old ATI Rage from the late 90s had trouble rendering PNGs, let alone complex 3D scenes.

The average video card is infinitely more powerful than the average CPU.
 
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post Oct 16 2009, 10:27 PM
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wow. i can always see topics that buttsex posts in to learn new stuff!
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so the vid card is the bottleneck?
 
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post Oct 16 2009, 10:31 PM
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my gpu, since i have a 4850 and a athlon 64 processor. (well according to cj)
 
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post Oct 16 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(-Jon- @ Oct 16 2009, 10:27 PM) *
wow. i can always see topics that buttsex posts in to learn new stuff!
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so the vid card is the bottleneck?


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the bottleneck of your computer may be different. a bottelneck, is like the weekest link a chain. your computer can only go as fast as the slowest thing(kind of) so it may be that you dont have enough ram, a good enough processor, or in the case of most computers that are really good, the hard drive. ssd boosts performance like nobodies business.

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my gpu, since i have a 4850 and a athlon 64 processor. (well according to cj)



that still doesnt make sense to me. id better do a little research on graphics cards. i have never cared cause im not a gamer.
having a bad gpu in a good rig wouldnt slow down performance just graphical performance right?
 
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post Oct 16 2009, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(tcunningham @ Oct 16 2009, 10:31 PM) *
my gpu, since i have a 4850 and a athlon 64 processor. (well according to cj)

Naw, Athlon 64 is the bottleneck.

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A bottleneck is a phenomenon where the performance or capacity of an entire system is limited by a single or limited number of components or resources. The term bottleneck is taken from the 'assets are water' metaphor. As water is poured out of a bottle, the rate of outflow is limited by the width of the conduit of exit - that is, bottleneck. Increase the width of the bottleneck, and you can increase the rate of which the water flows out. Pertaining to a business, a firm will address the 'bottleneck' that is limiting production.


Since you have an outdated CPU, but a high end GPU, your CPU is the bottleneck
 
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post Oct 16 2009, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Buttsex @ Oct 16 2009, 11:10 PM) *
Naw, Athlon 64 is the bottleneck.
Since you have an outdated CPU, but a high end GPU, your CPU is the bottleneck

but i still see how a GPU can be a bottleneck.
if we replace the metaphor of a bottle with tubes, wouldn't the ram, hard drive, processor, be one tube and graphics be a separate tube?
 
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post Oct 16 2009, 11:22 PM
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Nope. They would each be separate tubes.
 
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post Oct 16 2009, 11:23 PM
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is that not what i just said?
 
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post Oct 16 2009, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Oct 17 2009, 12:23 AM) *
is that not what i just said?

the underlying word, is each, meaning, not all those three beforehand are in one tube alone. (i think)
 
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post Oct 16 2009, 11:29 PM
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post Oct 17 2009, 12:01 AM
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so you are denying the bottleneck theory. the theory stating that a computer is a like...



(the diagram doesnt make sense but ya know...)
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it doesnt make sense but according to the botteleneck theory, the computer can only go as fast as thing thinnest point (in this case the mobo facepalm.gif ) so if the gpu was the weakest link could it limit the use of ram and processing power? i think not.
 
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What's your lowest score on the Windows Experience Index?
 
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post Oct 17 2009, 12:22 AM
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Joseph, you don't know what you're talking about.
 
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QUOTE(tcunningham @ Oct 17 2009, 12:15 AM) *
What's your lowest score on the Windows Experience Index?

5.9, my hard drive. 2x250 GB 7200 RPM drives, I don't like the way WEI scales hard drives.
 
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post Oct 17 2009, 12:28 AM
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