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Heewee
post Feb 10 2005, 06:16 PM
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On a recent Physics quiz we had this question:

"True or False: An ideal machine will have an efficiency greater than 100%"

Now, my teacher was trying to see whether or not we knew that the energy you put into a machine will be equal to or less than the energy coming out of the machine. I got the answer right. However, a few people in my class are arguing that it was an unfair question because an ideal machine would have an efficiency greater than 100%. We think that my teacher should just omit the question because it can go either way. Would you answer true or false?
 
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post Feb 10 2005, 06:18 PM
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I'd circle both the answers. =]
 
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post Feb 10 2005, 06:20 PM
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Our quizzes are on scantrons anyway so it would only count the first mark, which would be A (which was true) and it would be marked wrong. _smile.gif
 
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post Feb 10 2005, 10:39 PM
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I'd circle a and b.
 
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post Feb 10 2005, 10:41 PM
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Hey Hillary! Hilary?

Ahem. I'd bubble-in.. false. Because because.. how can you have more than 100% of your -- ah screw it.
 
smilz2dasun
post Feb 11 2005, 12:03 AM
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*gasp* your name is hillary too?!

um.. i cant really help you out here because even though im in physics.. im not doing a very good job in there.. pinch.gif
 
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post Feb 11 2005, 10:00 AM
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A machine is only as efficient as the human that makes it, imagine if it was built on an assembly line, many humans many mistakes. Even with the ideal machine, it still will make errors and make it under 100%.
 
*wind&fire*
post Feb 12 2005, 03:09 AM
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thats impossible to exceed 100% efficiency since there is such a thing as "conservation of energy"
 
mysticalazxn
post Feb 12 2005, 05:27 PM
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i dunno
i took physic AP in high school. and we never learn that question
all we learn is the complicated stuff.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 08:10 PM
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I'd pick false. My guess, is, ideally, I'd want a machine to be 100% efficient. And I doubt they can be more than 100%, so yeah. Seems like a trick question though...
 
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post Feb 18 2005, 09:38 PM
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If it could go more, then wouldn't that cause a new 100% causing each amount of energy put in to represent a lower percentage? Something similar to if you ever play a game where you level up, you need a certain amount of experience to level up the first time. But you can do the same amount and get less of a percent. Get it? woah..headache...
 
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post Feb 18 2005, 11:21 PM
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it cant even get up to 100%

Lenz's law states that the induced current always causes a motor effect, which opposes the original flux change that caused the generator effect...

in other words when the motor effect is in place there will always be an opposing force...
 

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