Homosexuals, Variation or Disorder? |
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 Jan 9 2005, 06:48 PM
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 Sing to Me  Group: Member Posts: 1,825 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,808  |
Do you think homosexuality is the result of natural variation in humans (like how people have different eye color) or is it the result of a mental disorder?
I'm asking this because I recently watched a show that was centered around this debate. I think it's a natural variation. I don't know why but I just do. I see different sexual orientations like the different colors in eyes. It just occurs. Your opinion? |
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Feb 8 2005, 10:03 PM
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 LunchboxXx Group: Member Posts: 1,789 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,810 |
QUOTE(lilangelgurlpnai @ Feb 6 2005, 10:23 PM) I have a cousin. He's gay. He has an uncle. He's gay. His mom says that it's all the dad's fault because his uncle is gay. I have no idea how that was relevant.. but can't you guys just accept people for who they are and stop wondering about how they are like that in the first place?  homosexuality isn't a "Fault". it's just a lifestyle different from the one western civilisation is used to. there are enough people in the wold, now, that homosexuality isn't going to hurt anything. lets evolve. |
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Feb 9 2005, 03:38 PM
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Sing to Me Group: Member Posts: 1,825 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,808 |
First of all, this is a debate forum. Debates aren't limited to politically correct topics. What about the debates on religion? Why not just leave religion alone? If you think this is a debate that puts homosexuals in a negative light, you need to read more carefully.
I stated before that in the 1970's, homosexuality was listed as a mental disorder. Some scientists still study homosexuals. Are they suppose to go, "Let's not do this anymore. It's not nice." I know people who are gay. They are ten times better than some of the straight people I know. But whether you like it or not, homosexuality is still not considered a norm. Biologically, it is programmed in all species to reproduce and thrive. Don't be politically correct or nice. I want you opinion. And thinking 'mental disorder' is a bad word, I'm sorry but that's the only word that can generalize the idea. Although I think this runs along the same lines of people saying, "Differently abled". Yes, it's not exactly nice or respective. If you can give me another word that can better describe it, then suggest it. |
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Feb 9 2005, 03:43 PM
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 ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 |
it's both. some people were born gay. and some people just turn gay. people's feelings change over time.
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Feb 9 2005, 04:27 PM
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 WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
to further satisfy Endless_Symphony over here, i'll be perfectly blunt and you'll all have to deal with that. it might be mean, but i wasn't modded for my people skills.
i think those that are homophobic and against homosexualism are downright wrong and utterly ignorant. a person cannot, i will repeat, CAN NOT control whether they are gay or not. it is not a choice. can you really tell me that people would want to be gay? why would someone want to be gay, with all the persecution and discrimination people like YOU give them? it's not to go against God, or anything of that nature. they can't help it. you can't help who you're attracted to. we all wish we could, we could all be a lot happier if we could pick and choose, but you can't. you all just have to deal with reality. people are gay, and you can't change it. going against something they have no control over is stupid, and i lose respect for those who don't respect others based on things they have no control over, such as race or sexuality or gender...etc. there. |
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Feb 9 2005, 04:32 PM
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 Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
^^
excelent... best summary i've heard in a long time... i second all of that |
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Feb 12 2005, 12:26 AM
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Sing to Me Group: Member Posts: 1,825 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,808 |
yup... i was satisfied though I hope the "YOU" you were referring to was not me.
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Feb 12 2005, 10:46 AM
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WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
the YOU was referring to those who are homophobic and against homosexuality.
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Feb 12 2005, 08:46 PM
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 the Ray... it filters through Group: Member Posts: 575 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 76,081 |
No one really knows for sure... I'll be honest... I just don't like it very much.... not really a problem with bisexuals though.
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Feb 12 2005, 10:09 PM
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dude, where's your brain? Group: Member Posts: 47 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,426 |
QUOTE(nevernothere @ Feb 12 2005, 8:46 PM) No one really knows for sure... I'll be honest... I just don't like it very much.... not really a problem with bisexuals though. You dislike homosexuals, but you don't mind bisexuals? That is quite possibly the "strangest" (to be nice) thing I have ever heard. |
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Feb 12 2005, 11:27 PM
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WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
that is quite strange.
i understand homosexuality, but i really just don't..get..bisexuality. i'll respect it though. |
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Feb 13 2005, 07:47 AM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
bisexuality= either attention seeking or denial. its very rare to find someone genuinly bisexual. good for them though
QUOTE No one really knows for sure... I'll be honest... I just don't like it very much.... not really a problem with bisexuals though. thats stupid. |
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Feb 17 2005, 10:47 PM
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Just one question though ... why do you guys even care if ... 1) You are homophobic. 2) Highly Disapprove of Homosexuality and 3) you're not homosexual/bisexual. Is it that intriguing to you?
Anyway, ..... why do you care? That's all. Nothing to see here. |
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Feb 17 2005, 11:29 PM
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According to the Bible, homosexuality is unqualified as a no, violence against it or something is a lot more worser.
[^Learned that from History Channel  ]Non-religious and religious people, you could calm down now. 
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Feb 18 2005, 11:09 PM
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you are born with it, so it wouldn't be a disorder at ALL. so, its a variation. some mutation or whatever causes it.
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Feb 20 2005, 12:58 PM
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Sing to Me Group: Member Posts: 1,825 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,808 |
QUOTE(lilangelgurlpnai @ Feb 17 2005, 10:47 PM) Just one question though ... why do you guys even care if ... 1) You are homophobic. 2) Highly Disapprove of Homosexuality and 3) you're not homosexual/bisexual. Is it that intriguing to you? Anyway, ..... why do you care? That's all. Nothing to see here. This is a debate forum. Never did the rules say we actually have to be connected to the topic to say anything. Intriguing? I suppose to some degree, yes. No matter how liberal someone is, they have to admit homosexuals are a bit different. Some people have jobs devoted to figuring out why. What about the government topics? Do the people who comment or care have to be in the government? What about the white history month topic? Are the people who are in it either 1) white racists 2) white and yada yada yada. |
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Feb 20 2005, 01:26 PM
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WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
yes, they are different than say, me, but everyone is different from me. it's just like if they had blonde hair. i don't have blonde hair. should i treat them differently just because of that?
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Feb 20 2005, 02:13 PM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
QUOTE No matter how liberal someone is, they have to admit homosexuals are a bit different. and no matter how conservative you are, you have to admit that they're a little bit the same... *shrugs* |
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Feb 20 2005, 02:17 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
aye, and no matter how liberal you are, women are different form men.
do that mean they should be subject to hate crimes and discrimination? |
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Feb 20 2005, 06:43 PM
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Sing to Me Group: Member Posts: 1,825 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,808 |
Yes. Just cause people are different, we should all shun them.
/end sarcasm |
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Feb 21 2005, 01:52 AM
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umm i think neither. i personally believe that homosexuality is a choice. there are plenty of homosexuals who change their sexuality and never feel arousing homosexual tendencies again. i also believe its a sin but thats a bit off topic. this is just my opinion, everyone should be entitled to theirs, so let me be entitled to mine! thanks!
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Feb 21 2005, 03:40 PM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
^^
we'll allow you to HAVE your opinion, but we will also tell you why it's crap. in my opinion anyway why would anyone choose to be homoseual? for all the love it brings from society? no one who has called it a choice has so far chosen to adress this yet. |
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Feb 21 2005, 09:09 PM
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i see tomatos fly Group: Member Posts: 9 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 95,452 |
I don't think it matters either way.
for pete's sake, or my sake, or your sake, for the whold contry's sanity WHO CARES. honestly i think that people need to get over themselves and give other folks what they want. i'll admit it that i get a little grossed out to see like two guys making out but should unconfertablness be a reason to make a law. so does it really matter whether somone decides for fate decides for them on the topic of sexual preference, people should just get over it. love is love. if people are in love then let them have the same rights as everyone else in love, be they 2 men, 2 wwomen on one of each. life is too sweet to argue over crap like this right on people who agree :^) |
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Feb 22 2005, 02:58 AM
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i think it's just an unhealthy idea. like incest or punching the wall or jumping off of a cliff....
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Feb 24 2005, 04:40 PM
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 i'm susan Group: Official Member Posts: 13,875 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,029 |
I think more as a mental disorder. I mean I don't think they born to be a homosexual, right? It just happens out of nowhere. I don't know that's what I think. |
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Feb 24 2005, 04:47 PM
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I think it is a variation.
People happen to fall in love with whom and whatever... It doesn't matter if no one is getting hurt is all... |
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