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Persident Bush as Time's 'Person of the Year', what do you all think of it? |
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This year, Time Magazine has chosen President Bush as "Person of the Year."
Do you feel he deserves that title? Why or why not? Their articles about him pose an excellent argument, but I still would like to hear your opinions. I personally am appalled, but that's just me. Sorry about the big mess-up on the name. it was supposed to be president, not 'persident.' Dang, I've edited this post 4 times in a row! |
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
Even Hitler was TIME Man of the Year once...
![]() And another Nazi too, Erich von Manstein (this was actually during WWII): ![]() |
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we have a topic on this in the lounge. i think its called "ahahahahaha" or something along those lines
newly elected presidents are always the person of the year. so basically, it predetermined every 4 years |
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![]() Oh, crap, I didn't know that! Man, I thought I had a good debate going. |
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
Mr. Bush is the best president we've had since 2001.
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 23 2004, 2:50 PM) Mr. Bush is the best president we've had since 2001. ahahaha ![]() |
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 23 2004, 2:50 PM) Mr. Bush is the best president we've had since 2001. ![]() ![]() |
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![]() ****EDIT**** Wait, now I get it! |
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![]() Yawn ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,530 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,772 ![]() |
He definetly deserves to be person of the year.
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ahahh person of the year? that some crap. i wonder how much money he payed time to be that.. ahah jp
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
Bush was definitely one of the most influential people this year...
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
yes, bush was quite infuential on new this year.
but year 2001, the person of the year was rudy guilliani, when it clearly should have been osama bin laden. politics does inflluence the choice. |
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![]() Canadian Boyfriend, I think it's time ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 450 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,705 ![]() |
Well, I think he is a good president. I don't think he is good enough to deserve Person of the Year because he has had his faults, but he made them up. Very nicely might I add.
He has his stupid moments, but that just goes to show that noone is perfect and I like a president that isn't the smartest person in the world. It lets the people know that he isn't some hi tech robot from Swansakiga. (whatever that is ![]() I totally agree with everything he does. Doesn't deserve it but is definately a great president and person. |
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
in case you didn't know, person of the year is awarded to the person who had the most influence on news that year.
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yeah, it's not "Who made the world a better place" it's "Who f**ked things up the most for better or for worse" and bush definitely deserves that title. emphasis on "worse" though.
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![]() Canadian Boyfriend, I think it's time ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 450 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,705 ![]() |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 23 2004, 10:40 PM) in case you didn't know, person of the year is awarded to the person who had the most influence on news that year. Oh, sorry. I didn't know it meant that. "Person of the Year" makes it sound like well....person of the year? Sorry about the confusion. ![]() |
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No shit, because he's the president..he's like the most highest-class person of the U.S. so he deserves it..who else does..?
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no, jason, just because he won the election doesnt make him the "most highest-class" (youre killing me) person. even if he were the "most highest-class person", that doesnt mean he necessarily the best or most influential person.
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I personally think that even though he's the president, he really effed up things in this country. We're hated by the entire world, so his foreign policy is well, really, really crappy. Plus, he friggin' bankrupted the U.S. treasury, and he lied about WMDs in Iraq, so we know that he's only going to war for oil. Oh, and did I mention that he set the record for the highest deficit ever made by a U.S. president???? (It was tough to beat Reagan, but he did it!!) Over $5,000,000,000! Let's also talk about how, according to a Gallup poll, he had a 53% approval rating after the election. That seems pretty good, if you don't mention the fact that's it's the lowest approval rating ever for a U.S. president after an election!
And, yet, he's not willing to admit any of those mistakes. But I'm sure he's a really nice guy! Let's give it to him anyway! ![]() |
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
i think tho, this is really crap. not because of any of bush's politics and stuff, because he didn't influence news the most...
it's most likely kerry... there were tons more time issues about kerry than about bush... needless to say if kerry had won the election, and had gotten two more months of news, he would have won. it's either kerry or saddam hussein, becuase of his caputure. bush just isn't in the news that much... |
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 24 2004, 4:24 PM) i think tho, this is really crap. not because of any of bush's politics and stuff, because he didn't influence news the most... it's most likely kerry... there were tons more time issues about kerry than about bush... needless to say if kerry had won the election, and had gotten two more months of news, he would have won. it's either kerry or saddam hussein, becuase of his caputure. bush just isn't in the news that much... TRUE TRUE..WE JUST GOT THAT IN THE MAIL..I THINK IT'S IN THE TRASH.. ![]() |
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 23 2004, 2:50 PM) Mr. Bush is the best president we've had since 2001. omg that was sooo funny......lololol....I really do hope your joking, because I'm not. He is the worst president yet. god please help him....and yes, he got person of the year because he started this stupid war. |
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QUOTE(TreesTurnMeOn @ Dec 23 2004, 6:30 PM) Well, I think he is a good president. I don't think he is good enough to deserve Person of the Year because he has had his faults, but he made them up. Very nicely might I add. He has his stupid moments, but that just goes to show that noone is perfect and I like a president that isn't the smartest person in the world. It lets the people know that he isn't some hi tech robot from Swansakiga. (whatever that is ![]() I totally agree with everything he does. Doesn't deserve it but is definately a great president and person. I couldn't have said it better. |
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![]() ApunBindaas ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 221 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,464 ![]() |
Bush getting it is fine with me. He did break records with his second term so why not? Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he doesn't deserve it.
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he broke records...
bush has: (note the first person is used to refer to Bush) (taken from http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/04/23_resume.html) # Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history. # Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period. # Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market. # First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner. # First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record. # First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history. # After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history. # Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history. # In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job. # Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history. # Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period. # Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history. # Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television. # Signed more laws and executive orders circumventing the Constitution than any president in US history. # Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed. # Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have. # Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans. # Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. (http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/) # Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history. # My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history. # Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleezza Rice has an Chevron oil tanker named after her). # Had more states to simultaneously go bankrupt than any president in the history of the United States. # Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world. # Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States. # Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history. # First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission. # First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board. # Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history. # Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant. # Withdrew from the World Court of Law. # Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions. # First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections). # All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations. # My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation). # Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history. # First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community. # First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1) # First US president to establish a secret shadow government. # Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history). # With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years. # Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability. # First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea. # Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. # Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts. # Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'. # Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects. # In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States. # Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history. # In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war. # Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down. * At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available). * AWOL from National Guard and Deserted the military during a time of war. * Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use. * All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view. * All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view. * All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view. * Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public review. * For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (They can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.) |
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