This made me cry..., seriously Options

[ApocalypseAelis]

I was just browsing through Peta 2 and I found this video on factory farms...before, I was completely clueless to where my meat came from...ignorant, I know...

Ever since I saw this, I went vegetarian. I know I might sound like a silly little girl who'll give up vegetarianism after a week or two, but I really felt bad for what went on in these farms and I hope that I can keep up vegetarianism...

Are any of you in here vegetarian or vegan?

Please take a look at this depressing clip...please consider it...
The Cruelty of Animal Farms
It may take a while to load on older computers, but it's worth it, in my opinion...

[ghjgfkgfk]

i'm sorry, but i don't think that is quite overboard when they DIE either way.

i admit, i didnt't even WATCH the video, when i saw "PETA" i posted. because it's true. because they do go overboard, which is why i don't support them.

they are totally FOR the killing of any animal they believe is "scary", aka, the pit bull. which are completely stable, smart, playful, family loving pets, IF PROPERLY TRAINED (isn't it like that with all dogs?). mind you, they don't even support people having pets,

I don’t use the word 'pet. I prefer 'companion animal.' For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had companion animals in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship – enjoyment at a distance.

they spend more of their donated money to advertise themsevles, rather than, i don't know, maybe actually HELPING the animals.
"PETA's donations totaled only $206,655.58, but they had a total revenue of almost $14 Million.

PETA spent the following on

1. PETA TV - Expense - $13,268.84
2. Electronic equipment, computers, cameras - Expense- $33,869.24
3. Automobiles - Expense - $148,362.02
4. SNAP Vehicle - Expense - $150,000.00
5. Buildings and improvements - Expense - $295,101.60 (After a $195,000 donation of property)
6. Land - Expense - 94,170.00"
kind of looks like about less then one precent went to do what peta is "all about".

they also donated thosands of dollars to ELF or ALF, both activist extremists. both under FBI watch for terrorsim in arson, bombings, cutting the brake lines on fishery trucks, breaking and entering, destruction of government and organizational research laboratories and murder. because we all have no problem supporting terrorism.

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we’re going to be, as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows … I think it’s a great way to bring about animal liberation … I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."
- vegan campaign coordinator of PETA, “Animal Rights 2001” conference
no comment to that. haha.

they're hypocrites. they are against using animal research in the medial field. yet vice president willingly injects insulin for her diabetes. she says she needs her life fighting for animals. if that wasn't enough, try this, "Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we’d be against it" wow. lets kill million humans, in the present and future, just to save some animals lives?

EDIT//
more proof that peta is really just people pulling infomation out of their asses.
http://www.anti-peta.com/beef.html
http://www.anti-peta.com/milk.html
http://www.huntersunite.com/peta.htm
http://www.animalscam.com/index.cfm
http://www.workingpitbull.com/truthaboutpeta.htm
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/article_det...cfm/article/134
http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/2003...n/qtr3/0903.htm
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/2371
http://www.inform.umd.edu/News/Diamondback...ommentary3.html
http://www.peta-sucks.com/thehiddenagenda.htm

This post has been edited by airam: Dec 20 2004, 01:15 PM

[yupimchuck]

WHOOO PETA!!!!! people never believe me when i show them those videos!!! oive watched them all several times... i cry every time... wheee.. peta

omg i kno 

http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=x_seduceme look at ze video on her xanga. its about animal abuse... its like the video from ur link without the song. i think its worse 

yesh i also seem like a silly little girl who has decided she will be a veg., but will quit after like a week 

that video is 'meet your meat'

ive been veg for over a year and a half.. i know.. im just a baby at it :( .. but i hate when people say theyre gonna be vegetarian .. and only last a week. i HATE it.

and when people say theyre veg but they eat fish. i could STRANGLE THEM!

[ghjgfkgfk]

,Dec 20 2004, 11:50 AM]
i hate it when people say theyre gonna be vegetarian .. and only last a week. i HATE it.

why? are they not as hardcore as you?

[omerc139]

PETA spent the following on

  3. Automobiles - Expense - $148,362.02

Wow I would've thought they wouldn't spend a lot on automobiles seeing as how automobiles destroy the environment which ends up killing animlas. I agree PETA does overboard.

[yupimchuck]

why? are they not as hardcore as you?

no it just bothers me.. because most of the people that say that wear leather or suede .. and .. well. i dont really know why i hate it so much.. i guess its just annoyiing because ive heard it so much.. and everyone whose tried has failed, its just to a point where i know they cant do it.. because "meat tastes too good"... its just annoying

[ghjgfkgfk]

,Dec 20 2004, 12:02 PM]
no it just bothers me.. because most of the people that say that wear leather or suede .. and .. well. i dont really know why i hate it so much.. i guess its just annoyiing because ive heard it so much.. and everyone whose tried has failed, its just to a point where i know they cant do it.. because "meat tastes too good"... its just annoying

oh no, i can totally understand where you are coming from. because we all know that PETA believes that everyone who has been to a zoo, enjoys circus elephants, fed/feeds milk to amimals, wear leather or fur, ate meat once in their life are all animal abusers. like me. like everyone here.

[yupimchuck]

Peta pisses me off sometimes.theyre kinda confused. ive eaten meat before, because i didnt know any better. and they claim zoos are bad.. theyre not.. circuses are, but thats different. and you know the people at peta who have kids take or have taken their kids to a zoo.

[ghjgfkgfk]

,Dec 20 2004, 12:08 PM] Peta pisses me off sometimes.theyre kinda confused.  ive eaten meat before, because i didnt know any better.  and they claim zoos are bad.. theyre not.. circuses are, but thats different. and you know the people at peta who have kids take or have taken their kids to a zoo.

i think i'm the confused one. i don't understand your posts in this topic. you say

WHOOO PETA!!!!! people never believe me when i show them those videos!!! oive watched them all several times... i cry every time... wheee.. peta

then you said they you don't understand peta, then you admit that they are hypocrites. but show the peta videos to all your friends?

[LeSLiE]

omagosh.. MEAN PEOPLE!!!! Grr I want to go throw a shoe at them. That's evil.

[yupimchuck]

i think i'm the confused one. i don't understand your posts in this topic. you say

then you said they you don't understand peta, then you admit that they are hypocrites. but show the peta videos to all your friends?

im glad for peta.. to show what they show... and to inform people

but i dont like most of their actions

[ghjgfkgfk]

,Dec 20 2004, 12:56 PM]im glad for peta.. to show what they show...  and to inform people

but i dont like most of  their actions

because we know that PETA is great at imforming little kids that their mommy kills animals. (no joke by the way)

http://www.furisdead.com/momfur.html

[ApocalypseAelis]

because we know that PETA is great at imforming little kids that their mommy kills animals. (no joke by the way)
http://www.furisdead.com/images/mommykills_comichead.jpg
http://www.furisdead.com/momfur.html

They're informing little kids who have parents that wear fur that their mommy supports killing animals. Which is true.

oh no, i can totally understand where you are coming from. because we all know that PETA believes that everyone who has been to a zoo, enjoys circus elephants, fed/feeds milk to amimals, wear leather or fur, ate meat once in their life are all animal abusers. like me. like everyone here.

Now you're the one who's going overboard.

First of all, it is wrong to wear fur, and PETA is right in trying to get people to stop it.

Secondly, they don't feel that everyone who has been to a zoo, enjoys circus elephants, feeds milk to animals, eats meat, or wears leather is an animal abuser. They think it's better if less people wore leather or consumed meat since less animals would die, but they don't try to make it like the law that people who do wear leather are animal abusers. I'm pretty sure you'd agree that the less living beings suffer, the better. (unless there's some risk of overpopulation or something.)

Also, PETA tries to inform people who pay money to watch abused and maltreated animals in zoos and circuses about how the creatures are treated, not just point the finger at them and call them animal abusers. They believe that the zookeepers and circus trainers who abuse the animals are animal abusers. Which is true.

[ghjgfkgfk]

They're informing little kids who have parents that wear fur that their mommy supports killing animals. Which is true.

oh please. "Lots of wonderful foxes, raccoons, and other animals are kept by mean farmers who squish them into cages so small that they can hardly move. They never get to play or swim or have fun. All they can do is cry-just so your greedy mommy can have that fur coat to show off in when she walks the streets."
what a way to make a kid hate their parents. this is total propaganda. well, it doesn't matter much, since to peta we're all animal haters. it is complete BULLSHIT to tell a kid that. or anyone that mommy is a greedy animal hater. look at the picture. it's a f**king scare tactic.

[*mona lisa*]

i didn't even watch it and now im scared to.

[ApocalypseAelis]

oh please. "Lots of wonderful foxes, raccoons, and other animals are kept by mean farmers who squish them into cages so small that they can hardly move. They never get to play or swim or have fun. All they can do is cry-just so your greedy mommy can have that fur coat to show off in when she walks the streets."
what a way to make a kid hate their parents. this is total propaganda. well, it doesn't matter much, since to peta we're all animal haters. it is complete BULLSHIT to tell a kid that. or anyone that mommy is a greedy animal hater. look at the picture. it's a f**king scare tactic.

The quote "Lots of wonderful foxes, raccoons, and other animals are kept by mean farmers who squish them into cages so small that they can hardly move. They never get to play or swim or have fun. All they can do is cry-just so your greedy mommy can have that fur coat to show off in when she walks the streets." is completely true. How is that bullshit? It's a way to get the kids to "take action", in a way. The reason PETA gave out the leaflets is to influence the little kids to try and get their parents to stop wearing fur coats, which explains the picture.

well, it doesn't matter much, since to peta we're all animal haters.

Again, you exaggerate and go overboard, just like you say PETA does.

(Should this go into the debate board?)

[ghjgfkgfk]

The quote "Lots of wonderful foxes, raccoons, and other animals are kept by mean farmers who squish them into cages so small that they can hardly move. They never get to play or swim or have fun. All they can do is cry-just so your greedy mommy can have that fur coat to show off in when she walks the streets." is completely true. How is that bullshit? It's a way to get the kids to "take action", in a way. The reason PETA gave out the leaflets is to influence the little kids to try and get their parents to stop wearing fur coats, which explains the picture.



Again, you exaggerate and go overboard, just like you say PETA does.

(Should this go into the debate board?)

what are little kids going to do besides whine and cry? are they going to take action? i'm not saying that kids aren't capable but is scareing them and making them hate their mom isn't the right way to educate them, fur is not something i would want (real or faux, it's just plan ugly) but i have nothing against these "greedy" people who wear it. because it says nothing about them and who they are. if they like it, real or not, fine. i don't care. it's not effecting me. do people what eat meat support the killing of animals?

they do other scare/shock tactics.( http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/2537 ) to teach people not to eat meat, that milk is unheathly, whatever. but scareing people isn't teh way to change a mind, but to tell people the facts instead of what you want people to think.

Again, you exaggerate and go overboard, just like you say PETA does.

how so?

(i think this goes in the debate forum)

[omerc139]

The reason PETA gave out the leaflets is to influence the little kids to try and get their parents to stop wearing fur coats, which explains the picture.

They can always choose less horific ways to spread the word to children than showing them pictures of dead animals. Children have fragile minds and who knows what kind of effect these types of pictures will have on them. I know if I was 5 or 6 and was handed one of these comics I would be tramitized.

[iheartsimba]

i admit, i didnt't even WATCH the video, when i saw "PETA" i posted. because it's true. because they do go overboard, which is why i don't support them.

they are totally FOR the killing of any animal they believe is "scary", aka, the pit bull. which are completely stable, smart, playful, family loving pets, IF PROPERLY TRAINED (isn't it like that with all dogs?). mind you, they don't even support people having pets,


they spend more of their donated money to advertise themsevles, rather than, i don't know, maybe actually HELPING the animals.
"PETA's donations totaled only $206,655.58, but they had a total revenue of almost $14 Million.

PETA spent the following on

1. PETA TV - Expense - $13,268.84
2. Electronic equipment, computers, cameras - Expense- $33,869.24
3. Automobiles - Expense - $148,362.02
4. SNAP Vehicle - Expense - $150,000.00
5. Buildings and improvements - Expense - $295,101.60 (After a $195,000 donation of property)
6. Land - Expense - 94,170.00"
kind of looks like about less then one precent went to do what peta is "all about".

they also donated thosands of dollars to ELF or ALF, both activist extremists. both under FBI watch for terrorsim in arson, bombings, cutting the brake lines on fishery trucks, breaking and entering, destruction of government and organizational research laboratories and murder. because we all have no problem supporting terrorism.

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we’re going to be, as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows … I think it’s a great way to bring about animal liberation … I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."
- vegan campaign coordinator of PETA, “Animal Rights 2001” conference
no comment to that. haha.

they're hypocrites. they are against using animal research in the medial field. yet vice president willingly injects insulin for her diabetes. she says she needs her life fighting for animals. if that wasn't enough, try this, "Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we’d be against it" wow. lets kill million humans, in the present and future, just to save some animals lives?

EDIT//
more proof that peta is really just people pulling infomation out of their asses.
http://www.anti-peta.com/beef.html
http://www.anti-peta.com/milk.html
http://www.huntersunite.com/peta.htm
http://www.animalscam.com/index.cfm
http://www.workingpitbull.com/truthaboutpeta.htm
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/article_det...cfm/article/134
http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/2003...n/qtr3/0903.htm
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/2371
http://www.inform.umd.edu/News/Diamondback...ommentary3.html
http://www.peta-sucks.com/thehiddenagenda.htm

ok ok i believe you!

i was just talking about the animals, i can't say anything about peta, i don't know anything about them.

[ApocalypseAelis]

what are little kids going to do besides whine and cry? are they going to take action?  i'm not saying that kids aren't capable but is scareing them and making them hate their mom isn't the right way to educate them,  fur is not something i would want (real or faux, it's just plan ugly) but i have nothing against these "greedy" people who wear it. because it says nothing about them and who they are.  if they like it, real or not, fine. i don't care. it's not effecting me. do people what eat meat support the killing of animals?

they do other scare/shock tactics.( http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/2537 ) to teach people not to eat meat, that milk is unheathly, whatever. but scareing people isn't teh way to change a mind, but to tell people the facts instead of what you want people to think.

Okay, okay, I'll believe that PETA does go overboard at times, but I'm pretty sure it's for a good cause and they just want to help animals in need.

[sunissed14127]

you have no idea how overboard peta goes.

i agree. no, i dont approve in the abuse of animals, but peta does go a little over board with their movies.

[Wishful Thinking]

i didn't even know what PETA was til this forum haha.. x_x i never heard or knew anything about them. x_x they aren't really popular where i live i guess.. or maybe i just don't listen to news or things bout animals enough.

[pozer13]

i am gonna go vegetarian 2 i think..i mean..i love animals and i dont want them 2 get killed 4 me 2 eat..ya kno...that is just mean...i mean..once in a while i will eat meat but i wanna go vegetarian

[bad_girl]

how can they do that? it made me cry too.. . they were practically draining the cow! how can they DO THAT?
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[angeloncloud9]

OMG! That's horrible.

[D1SMANTLED]

PETA over-exaggerates.

i'm a proud carnivore.

but its just me.....

oh.,.. and i read on their website once that they want to make everyone (including children) to stop drinking milk because it came from cows!