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 Dec 3 2004, 10:42 AM
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 Quand j'étais jeune...  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272  |
Self-expression by means of killing an animal=sick/insane/morbid/physchotic/unstable/evil/loony... need I go on? Then again, opinions hardly matter anymore. Loonies will be loonies.
There's the healthy way of expressing ourselves and then there is the sick, unhealthy way. |
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Dec 3 2004, 04:24 PM
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 cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Dec 3 2004, 10:42 AM) Self-expression by means of killing an animal=sick/insane/morbid/physchotic/unstable/evil/loony... need I go on? Then again, opinions hardly matter anymore. Loonies will be loonies. There's the healthy way of expressing ourselves and then there is the sick, unhealthy way. i kno you can do many things without killing an animal with art. its sick how they did that with the mice and cats... you can make your own figures without killing them like making fake ones.its like taking you skin and making a costume with that lol (buffalo bill). nasty 
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Dec 3 2004, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(Arimalka @ Nov 29 2004, 6:15 PM) I believe that killing animals for certain purposes is alright. However, art isn't one of them >.< agreed. killing animals for art is... crazy. sick n crazy. i dont think killing animals for anyother purpose cept for food is ok, tho. -__-'' |
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Dec 3 2004, 06:01 PM
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 Seien Sie bitte mein Geliebter! Group: Member Posts: 660 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 43,436 |
Killing animals for food: This is fine. It's part of survival. Humans were meant to be omnivores, hence the canine teeth and molars (sp)
Killing animals for clothing: This is fine. Clothing is a necessity. We need it for warmth. Killing animals for art: This is not ok, if you ask me. Possibly if the animal dies of natural causes... But to kill something just for you entertainment. I think that's disgusting. |
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Dec 3 2004, 07:50 PM
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 Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
QUOTE(airam @ Nov 29 2004, 10:59 AM) HAHA. "Begemot" is a Satanic cat in the book, The Master and the Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov. It's a very good book, one of my favorites. |
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Dec 3 2004, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(picaso_smile @ Dec 4 2004, 9:01 AM) Killing animals for art: This is not ok, if you ask me. Possibly if the animal dies of natural causes... But to kill something just for you entertainment. I think that's disgusting. what is the freaking difference?!?! in clothes and food you dont see the animals face... thus you are detached from it .. but onc you see its lifeless face then you care?!?! wtf?!?!? its all animals!! |
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Dec 3 2004, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE yes anything can be art...a museam in australia showed a rotting cow cut in half... in germany there are preseved humans with their internal organs spilling out of their abdomen... and then art can be simple like a can of soup or abstract In the "art" you mentioned...if that's what you want to call it  ... The animals/humans were dead already (I am still against it), this artist's work is horrible because she KILLED the animals for it. There is nothing to justify the murder she committed.QUOTE Killing animals for clothing: This is fine. Clothing is a necessity. We need it for warmth. There are synthetic animal materials such as "pleather" and "faux fur" that are exactly like the real thing...without all of the murder of course....it is hypocritical to say it's okay to kill animals for clothing and not for art. QUOTE Self-expression by means of killing an animal=sick/insane/morbid/physchotic/unstable/evil/loony... need I go on? Then again, opinions hardly matter anymore. Loonies will be loonies. There's the healthy way of expressing ourselves and then there is the sick, unhealthy way. Exactly. 
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Dec 4 2004, 12:04 AM
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 lil______d00ks Group: Member Posts: 508 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 25,538 |
all i hafta say is thats sick..
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Dec 4 2004, 01:23 AM
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 and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
QUOTE(AzNbUbZ @ Dec 3 2004, 7:22 AM) ^ is it necessary to have 5 pairs of shoes? No, but I don't have 5 pairs of leather shoes. (Look, here's where I stopped talking about the 5 pairs of shoes. Pardon me for not putting in a paragraph. *paragraphs*) (Hey! Now I'm speaking to you in general. Isn't reading fun?) Are you saying that we shouldn't kill animals? That we should survive on tofu-burgers and soy milk until the animal population eventually and inevitably overwhelms us? Humans were born without fur. We don't have any natural protection against harsh weather. Animals protect us from that. I wear my leather shoes because they keep my feet warm, and yes. They do look nice. Would you rather that no one buys any leather shoes? That would be a waste of that animal. A pointless death. At least if the animal dies and its body serves a useful purpose in death, I don't see what's wrong with that. As for the art, well. It might be okay if the animal died of natural causes. Not if it died just for the sake of something gruesome to be on display. It's better than leaving a dead cat on the side of the highway. |
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Dec 4 2004, 01:43 AM
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cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE ^ is it necessary to have 5 pairs of shoes? where in that 9 worded question do you get all of that SPORADIC ? QUOTE No, but I don't have 5 pairs of leather shoes. Are you saying that we shouldn't kill animals? That we should survive on tofu-burgers and soy milk until the animal population eventually and inevitably overwhelms us? QUOTE Humans were born without fur. We don't have any natural protection against harsh weather. Animals protect us from that. I wear my leather shoes because they keep my feet warm, and yes. They do look nice. Would you rather that no one buys any leather shoes? That would be a waste of that animal. A pointless death. At least if the animal dies and its body serves a useful purpose in death, I don't see what's wrong with that. We do have have things to keep us warm like one of our biggest organs. the epidermis and fat ... just like otters. |
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Dec 4 2004, 01:49 AM
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and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
I didn't, PANDAMONIUM.
All of that response wasn't directed entirely at that "9 sentence question" QUOTE We do have have things to keep us warm like one of our biggest organs. the epidermis and fat ... just like otters. Okay, let's go romp around naked in the snow. |
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Dec 4 2004, 01:59 AM
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cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE Okay, let's go romp around naked in the snow. LMAO ahah you made a funny. i didnt say that it was wrong killing animals for clothes... |
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Dec 4 2004, 02:04 AM
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and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
No, but you said that we have things to keep us warm and protect us. What we do have is uneffective against snow and the like.. I'm just making a point. Animal hide protects our feet.
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Dec 4 2004, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE Would you rather that no one buys any leather shoes? That would be a waste of that animal. A pointless death. At least if the animal dies and its body serves a useful purpose in death, I don't see what's wrong with that. Though I am against killing animals in general, I agree that leather is not AS bad (though I am still totally against it) if the animal was killed for food (I am a vegetarian so I am against this as well), but many animal materials (i.e. fur, shearling, Indian leather, etc.) are not always collected because the animal was going to be killed for food anyway. For example: here Get it straight.
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Dec 4 2004, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE so that person who made those peices of art may not have done the right thing by killing those animals but they were expressing themselves..... You think that's an excuse? |
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Dec 4 2004, 12:49 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
pandominium: human skin is not made to insulate. it's made to loose heat, and suited to african grasslands.
i'd like to see you try to walk around naked in new york this winter... |
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Dec 4 2004, 06:24 PM
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 This bitch better work! Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,681 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,095 |
i don't think that it is right to kill animals at all. but we do have to eat. but def. not for art! that is just not right.
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Dec 4 2004, 07:42 PM
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and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
QUOTE(mysticbreeze @ Dec 4 2004, 10:55 AM) Though I am against killing animals in general, I agree that leather is not AS bad (though I am still totally against it) if the animal was killed for food (I am a vegetarian so I am against this as well), but many animal materials (i.e. fur, shearling, Indian leather, etc.) are not always collected because the animal was going to be killed for food anyway. For example: here Get it straight. Wait, wait. I'm not sure exactly what you're proving me wrong about. I didn't say that all parts of animals were used. I said that killing animals is more forgiveable when it's done for clothing or food than when it's done to be put on display. When did I say that when animals are killed they're used for eating AND made into clothes? What didn't I get straight..? |
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Dec 4 2004, 09:59 PM
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 kristin's stalker. Group: Member Posts: 52 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 55,439 |
and i wonder why we have faux fur in the first place.
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Dec 4 2004, 11:21 PM
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cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE(Arsenal @ Dec 4 2004, 11:01 AM) You think that's an excuse? i was trying to prove that they were expressing themselves through art. but i JUST said before that, that it wasnt right.... so no i didnt think that was an excuse. |
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Dec 4 2004, 11:28 PM
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cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 4 2004, 12:49 PM) pandominium: human skin is not made to insulate. it's made to loose heat, and suited to african grasslands. i'd like to see you try to walk around naked in new york this winter... hey hey hey now, you can walk around naked in new york. there are several people who walk around in weather that bad and still survive... example. David Blane. when he stuck himself in an ice cube. lol even though he didnt complete the time. there are also people who try to climb mount everest. being up there is more cold than being naked in NY plus the people on mount everest have like 20 layers of protective clothing. |
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Dec 5 2004, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(sporadic @ Dec 4 2004, 4:23 PM) They do look nice. an i beleive that to someone out there those animal head on sticks look nice too... then arent they serving a purpose? |
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Dec 5 2004, 05:35 PM
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and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
The purpose of looking nice? Sure. To some people. But they don't serve a purpose that is vital to our survival.
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Dec 5 2004, 05:48 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
your life is not nessicary for my survival, therefore you should be illegal and baned.
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Dec 5 2004, 05:58 PM
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and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
Your mom isn't necessary for my survival. No one in your family is. Let's kill them all while we're at it.
Hey, we're not necessary for the animals' survival. The human race should mass suicide. |
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