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![]() mmm....beer.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 24,854 ![]() |
Wow the second ring pic looks exactly like that in the first halo opening.
You know what else is poser about halo 2? The whole goddamn story...it was pretty much the same as halo except with more guns n shet. As your playing through the first few levels, all of a sudden, there is another halo! ![]() I'm so dissapointed. The only thing good about Halo 2 is Xbox live...that's about it. The clan system rocks!! If you want to battle us add me to your friends: OrangeOwnage and Hue GRECLION I think we are rank 300 and we jsut started today... ![]() |
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1) Realism doesnt just take place in gravity. Everyone says how balanced the guns are. Since when in real life are guns balanced? Never. Id sooner use a 12 gage to blow down some people than a pistol, why? More damage over a wider area. And then theres the driving, the sliding effects arent exactly realistic, especially in a warthog, which Im assuming was made for offroad driving, and yet will spin out faster than my mom when she's drunk. Oh yeah, and suit weighing half a ton = harder to jump. But maybe thats just my physics class taking over.
2) Its not the greatest game ever. NOT. Im not stating an opinion, Im stating a fact. 3) So what if it sold? That hardly means it saved ANYTHING. Especially considering the lack of sales of the Xbox anywhere but the US, and the lack of profit coming in for Microsoft. But maybe Im crazy, maybe losing billions is a GOOD thing. Im obviously out of the loop. 4) QUOTE Plus Halo itself was not completely original, but the story line, character design, and other things such as recharging shield and what not were. Though they borrowed from other sources, they are still more or less original. Nothing can be completely original, all must have some point of insperation and as such will have some similarity. The story line resembles every Gundam movie/show known to man. Giant colony can destroy the world and one man in a robosuit has to stop it. Whoopdie doo. Recharging shield? Original? More like ridiculous. It makes it even more unrealistic. I mean a shield, on top of a half ton of armor? Common, seriously. And no, nothing can truly be original, but theres a difference between that and blatantly ripping from sources. Its like the Lion King. I mean seriously.What have you shown to be a pro about Halo other than sales and fun factor? Nothing. And I dont even find it that fun. The multi games are unimaginative and the weapons lack quality and quantity. Theres just something about playing 4x4 Goldeneye, searching your ass off for a proximity mine so you can kill a bunch of people before someone snipes you off or drags you into your own trap or something. Theres something more exciting about having a goal, something to go after. Halo has nothing like that. Your "balanced" weapons just create a goal-less game that requires little skill. It bores me, really. |
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QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 15 2004, 8:11 PM) Theres just something about playing 4x4 Goldeneye, searching your ass off for a proximity mine so you can kill a bunch of people before someone snipes you off or drags you into your own trap or something. Actually, I liked the remote mines, and the a+b trick ![]() QUOTE(justingamemaster) I'm so dissapointed. The only thing good about Halo 2 is Xbox live...that's about it. didn't you also say: QUOTE(justingamemaster) Anyway, for all you that say halo 2 isn't that great, nobody really cares what you think (especially microsoft) because halo 2 grossed over $125 million dollars. ![]() |
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I'm so obsessed with Halo that my friends and I have like a Halo clique in school. So far only one team beat us...
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My brothers and I just got XBOX LIVE last night.. holy crap it's so sweeeet! We played HALO 2 on it and we totally killed.. haha.. it was great!
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QUOTE(CherryChik07 @ Nov 18 2004, 11:23 AM) My brothers and I just got XBOX LIVE last night.. holy crap it's so sweeeet! We played HALO 2 on it and we totally killed.. haha.. it was great! ![]() Yeah, I definitely think HALO 2 is the best video game.. IMHO, ![]() DUDE halo 2 is so sweet when you play it live some people get murdered then theres those people that live for it and can kill you in a second |
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 16 2004, 3:08 PM) Actually, I liked the remote mines, and the a+b trick ![]() QUOTE(justingamemaster) I'm so dissapointed. The only thing good about Halo 2 is Xbox live...that's about it. didn't you also say: QUOTE(justingamemaster) Anyway, for all you that say halo 2 isn't that great, nobody really cares what you think (especially microsoft) because halo 2 grossed over $125 million dollars. ![]() hmm I am dissapointed, and yet, i enjoy it. I guess it's just campaign mode that i dislike about this game...no objectives, no set goals, like halo 1, where they would say "save the marines" and cortana would talk to you and stuff. |
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![]() The red or the blue ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 294 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 19,976 ![]() |
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 15 2004, 8:11 PM) 1) Realism doesnt just take place in gravity. Everyone says how balanced the guns are. Since when in real life are guns balanced? Never. Id sooner use a 12 gage to blow down some people than a pistol, why? More damage over a wider area. And then theres the driving, the sliding effects arent exactly realistic, especially in a warthog, which Im assuming was made for offroad driving, and yet will spin out faster than my mom when she's drunk. Oh yeah, and suit weighing half a ton = harder to jump. But maybe thats just my physics class taking over. 2) Its not the greatest game ever. NOT. Im not stating an opinion, Im stating a fact. 3) So what if it sold? That hardly means it saved ANYTHING. Especially considering the lack of sales of the Xbox anywhere but the US, and the lack of profit coming in for Microsoft. But maybe Im crazy, maybe losing billions is a GOOD thing. Im obviously out of the loop. 4) The story line resembles every Gundam movie/show known to man. Giant colony can destroy the world and one man in a robosuit has to stop it. Whoopdie doo. Recharging shield? Original? More like ridiculous. It makes it even more unrealistic. I mean a shield, on top of a half ton of armor? Common, seriously. And no, nothing can truly be original, but theres a difference between that and blatantly ripping from sources. Its like the Lion King. I mean seriously. What have you shown to be a pro about Halo other than sales and fun factor? Nothing. And I dont even find it that fun. The multi games are unimaginative and the weapons lack quality and quantity. Theres just something about playing 4x4 Goldeneye, searching your ass off for a proximity mine so you can kill a bunch of people before someone snipes you off or drags you into your own trap or something. Theres something more exciting about having a goal, something to go after. Halo has nothing like that. Your "balanced" weapons just create a goal-less game that requires little skill. It bores me, really. 1) The suit weighing 1/2 ton inproves his strength, plus there's the already neuro and strength enhancements that he has like I already said, he could easily lift cars if he wanted to, jumping wouldn't be a problem. Because a suit weighing 1/2 ton = hard to jump when you don't have the force to make it move. Assuming the average human weighs 150 lbs and can has the strength to life 50lbs easily, the average car weighs in exess of 1 ton. Do the math, if Master Chief can lift a car, then he must have the strengh to be able to jump wearing that suit. In case you still don't get it, 2,000/50=40 150*40=6,000, if we assume the ratio of his arm strength to average human's arm strength is the same as his jumping ability to the average humans, then he could jump with 6,000lbs. I think we can safely assume that Master Chief does not weigh 5,000lbs and as such could easily jump the height which he does jump. 2) Stating that it isn't the greatest game ever is an opinion. It is a fact however that stating that it isn't the greatest game ever is an opinion. There is never a fact for something being the best. Everything is based on opinion. The only way you could say something is the best if there is only one realistic way of looking at it, for example, getting an A is better than failing. Unless of course you're trying to fail, then it wouldn't be. 3) Microsoft doesn't have to make money for it to have been saved by selling Xbox; even if it was "saved" it'd still be losing money since it loses money on every single XBox. Its business strategy isn't to make money on each XBox, it's to carve out a chunk of the market for future Microsoft counsels and also to make money on game licenses. 4) And what does Gundam resemble? There are way more games that just Halo where one guy must go and save the whole world. And also, if you don't know Halo doesn't exactly take place in the 21st century. Maybe you should wake up to that fact. I don't think Gundams are exactly realistic either, nor are many other things in games/television. It isn't blatanly ripped from anywhere. Saying that it was blatantly ripped from Gundam because you walk around in a suit and try to save the world is completely asinine. What next? Are you going to tell us that the Matrix was blatantly ripped from works of the ancients or anime because they borrowed ideas from them? What is your goal in Goldeneye? Oh yea, it's to kill the other people... REAL imaginative there. The first Halo does NOT have balanced weapons. Needler for instance is a lot less powerful than say the shot gun. Plus as a shotgun should be, it is less affective at longer range. Snipers are good for long range and are extremely deadly. How is that balanced at all? In Halo 2 they have "rebalanced" the weapons, that doesn't mean that some are preferred over others. Just because you might have the best weapon in the game doesn't mean that you will win. Having "balanced" weapons doesn't mean that you don't have a goal. |
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QUOTE(mechwarrior1989 @ Nov 21 2004, 4:08 PM) 1) The suit weighing 1/2 ton inproves his strength, plus there's the already neuro and strength enhancements that he has like I already said, he could easily lift cars if he wanted to, jumping wouldn't be a problem. Because a suit weighing 1/2 ton = hard to jump when you don't have the force to make it move. Assuming the average human weighs 150 lbs and can has the strength to life 50lbs easily, the average car weighs in exess of 1 ton. Do the math, if Master Chief can lift a car, then he must have the strengh to be able to jump wearing that suit. In case you still don't get it, 2,000/50=40 150*40=6,000, if we assume the ratio of his arm strength to average human's arm strength is the same as his jumping ability to the average humans, then he could jump with 6,000lbs. I think we can safely assume that Master Chief does not weigh 5,000lbs and as such could easily jump the height which he does jump. 2) Stating that it isn't the greatest game ever is an opinion. It is a fact however that stating that it isn't the greatest game ever is an opinion. There is never a fact for something being the best. Everything is based on opinion. The only way you could say something is the best if there is only one realistic way of looking at it, for example, getting an A is better than failing. Unless of course you're trying to fail, then it wouldn't be. 3) Microsoft doesn't have to make money for it to have been saved by selling Xbox; even if it was "saved" it'd still be losing money since it loses money on every single XBox. Its business strategy isn't to make money on each XBox, it's to carve out a chunk of the market for future Microsoft counsels and also to make money on game licenses. 4) And what does Gundam resemble? There are way more games that just Halo where one guy must go and save the whole world. And also, if you don't know Halo doesn't exactly take place in the 21st century. Maybe you should wake up to that fact. I don't think Gundams are exactly realistic either, nor are many other things in games/television. It isn't blatanly ripped from anywhere. Saying that it was blatantly ripped from Gundam because you walk around in a suit and try to save the world is completely asinine. What next? Are you going to tell us that the Matrix was blatantly ripped from works of the ancients or anime because they borrowed ideas from them? What is your goal in Goldeneye? Oh yea, it's to kill the other people... REAL imaginative there. The first Halo does NOT have balanced weapons. Needler for instance is a lot less powerful than say the shot gun. Plus as a shotgun should be, it is less affective at longer range. Snipers are good for long range and are extremely deadly. How is that balanced at all? In Halo 2 they have "rebalanced" the weapons, that doesn't mean that some are preferred over others. Just because you might have the best weapon in the game doesn't mean that you will win. Having "balanced" weapons doesn't mean that you don't have a goal. 1) Lifting a car and jumping require two different muscles and thus two different kinds of strength. Your comparison is invalid. Now whether or not he can lift a car I question. But still, you pointed out the floating as well, and despite his strength the height is still a bit unrealistic. That and you didnt dispute my gun comments. 2) If there is never a fact of something being the best, THEN ITS A FACT THAT ITS NOT THE BEST. Wow, turn around logic. 3) Which they dont. Microsoft loses billions in their gaming department. This isnt just due to the loss of on every piece of hardware, that would have to include lacking game sales. And even if it didnt, that is still a lot of money lost on consoles, far more than any other console developer, I guarantee. 4) Gundam resembles nearly every anime ever created. But Im not saying it is a mere resemblance, Im saying its very much alike. With the floating colony and it destroying the world and such. And sure, things rarely come that are original, but there are varying levels of originality, and Halo lacks in such. 5) When I spoke of goals in goldeneye I was speaking of the progressing gun power. You take my words out of context. A needler is immensely powerful given a few moments, and the fact that the needles home in on its victims. A sniper is always good for long range, but so is a needler, and a pistol, and a plasma rifle, and most anything you could think of in that game. I could take out an Elite from long range with an Assault Rifle fairly well. 6) At least Goldeneye had a resonably good plot. I mean, it was based on the greatest spy movie franchise ever. 7) The Matrix was a blatant rip off of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. |
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I think i like counter-strike better..well becuz i've never played halo 2
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QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Nov 21 2004, 8:50 PM) 1) Lifting a car and jumping require two different muscles and thus two different kinds of strength. Your comparison is invalid. Now whether or not he can lift a car I question. But still, you pointed out the floating as well, and despite his strength the height is still a bit unrealistic. That and you didnt dispute my gun comments. 2) If there is never a fact of something being the best, THEN ITS A FACT THAT ITS NOT THE BEST. Wow, turn around logic. 3) Which they dont. Microsoft loses billions in their gaming department. This isnt just due to the loss of on every piece of hardware, that would have to include lacking game sales. And even if it didnt, that is still a lot of money lost on consoles, far more than any other console developer, I guarantee. 4) Gundam resembles nearly every anime ever created. But Im not saying it is a mere resemblance, Im saying its very much alike. With the floating colony and it destroying the world and such. And sure, things rarely come that are original, but there are varying levels of originality, and Halo lacks in such. 5) When I spoke of goals in goldeneye I was speaking of the progressing gun power. You take my words out of context. A needler is immensely powerful given a few moments, and the fact that the needles home in on its victims. A sniper is always good for long range, but so is a needler, and a pistol, and a plasma rifle, and most anything you could think of in that game. I could take out an Elite from long range with an Assault Rifle fairly well. 6) At least Goldeneye had a resonably good plot. I mean, it was based on the greatest spy movie franchise ever. 7) The Matrix was a blatant rip off of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. 1) Of course they require different muscles, I'm attempting to make a point that his strength is more than enough to jump. He's not going to have a huge muscular upperbody with no muscles in his legs because then he wouldn't be able to walk at all. The guns aren't balanced in Halo, ask any experianced player and they'll tell you that the Needler was weak, period. Yes it's cool that it can follow people but it doesn't do anything as a gun. I'll address your latter points here as well, why should you be able to take out an elite with an assult rifle? It's still a gun. Pistols are good at medium range, you can't snipe anyone from accross the map with a pistol, plasma rifles are just basically assult rifles, nothing special there at all. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, if you're playing against good people you'll know when to use each gun. You aren't going to try and snipe someone with an assult rifle and you'll find that even if you do hit it does like nothing. As in real life, weapons do less damage over longer ranges. 2) Yea, got me there, I was setting myself up for that. I took it in a different context as in there is a game that is the best and Halo isn't it. 3) It doesn't matter that Microsoft loses some money. As I have repeatedly said, they are attempting to take a bite out of the market. You can't expect them to take the entire market on their first try. It is actually surprising that they are doing this well. Most first attempts into already set markets fail, microsoft got lucky and they know this. They can take the loses because this is a long term deal. ... 7. How the Hell are you getting that the matrix is blatantly ripped from snow white? Unless you're talking about the prince kissing snow white and her coming back to life. I'd like to know that. But Matrix is actual derived from texts by the ancients and some random anime and manga. I forgot the name of the work, but it was about how you would know if something was real or not if you had never experianced it, like if there were people who were chained to a cave wall, and all they saw were shadow animals and stuff, what would happen when they went out of that cave and what not. Very matrix-ish. |
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ohh i played it few days ago at my friends house, i can't tell the difference between halo and halo 2. lol
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QUOTE(mechwarrior1989 @ Nov 22 2004, 9:02 PM) 1) Of course they require different muscles, I'm attempting to make a point that his strength is more than enough to jump. He's not going to have a huge muscular upperbody with no muscles in his legs because then he wouldn't be able to walk at all. The guns aren't balanced in Halo, ask any experianced player and they'll tell you that the Needler was weak, period. Yes it's cool that it can follow people but it doesn't do anything as a gun. I'll address your latter points here as well, why should you be able to take out an elite with an assult rifle? It's still a gun. Pistols are good at medium range, you can't snipe anyone from accross the map with a pistol, plasma rifles are just basically assult rifles, nothing special there at all. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, if you're playing against good people you'll know when to use each gun. You aren't going to try and snipe someone with an assult rifle and you'll find that even if you do hit it does like nothing. As in real life, weapons do less damage over longer ranges. 2) Yea, got me there, I was setting myself up for that. I took it in a different context as in there is a game that is the best and Halo isn't it. 3) It doesn't matter that Microsoft loses some money. As I have repeatedly said, they are attempting to take a bite out of the market. You can't expect them to take the entire market on their first try. It is actually surprising that they are doing this well. Most first attempts into already set markets fail, microsoft got lucky and they know this. They can take the loses because this is a long term deal. ... 7. How the Hell are you getting that the matrix is blatantly ripped from snow white? Unless you're talking about the prince kissing snow white and her coming back to life. I'd like to know that. But Matrix is actual derived from texts by the ancients and some random anime and manga. I forgot the name of the work, but it was about how you would know if something was real or not if you had never experianced it, like if there were people who were chained to a cave wall, and all they saw were shadow animals and stuff, what would happen when they went out of that cave and what not. Very matrix-ish. 1) Right, because the whole exploding needles doesnt do anything. And when I said that about the assault rifle, I meant i CAN, not that I SHOULD. And in real life, one shot can pretty much take down/maim someone, if not kill them. But, alas, not so true in our 'realistic' game. 2) You sweep off their losses as just another jump into gaming, and its not, rarely do any companies lose BILLIONS OF DOLLARS at all, let alone doing it and still surviving. The ONLY, and I mean ONLY reason MS is still in the gaming business is because of Windows, and its stranglehold over the OS market. Theyre filthy stinking rich, so losing enough money to crush a hundred companies at once isnt all that much. Theyre still losing, infact, they are doing horribly in worldwide sales, being crushed by Sony and Nintendo. 3) And I was joking about the Snow White comment, it was sarcasm. QUOTE ohh i played it few days ago at my friends house, i can't tell the difference between halo and halo 2. lol Theres not really much of one.
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![]() The red or the blue ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 294 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 19,976 ![]() |
You know what, I'm really bored of coming on createblog can coming here to see how you've responded to my comments and then responding to your's. How about we agree to disagree, drop the subject and let this thread die in peace.
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Halo is da shiiiiiet. I <3 it.
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bringing this back up, because it was rated as game of the year by gamespy.
This is the ultimate overrated game of the year. The comments are atrocious. QUOTE(Justin from Gamespy) Justin: Few games come tailor-made for success like Halo 2, but it still surprised me with how damn good it ended up being. Once again Bungie innovates in several ways -- new vehicles, dual-wielding, the deadly melee weapon -- that are sure to be poorly ripped off by lesser games for years to come. I'm sorry, did he say Halo 2 is the first time these things were in an FPS? Vehicles, dual-wielding and melee weapons were in use WAY before Halo. Why is he trying to say games will try to rip these concepts from Halo 2, when Halo 2 was not the first game to have these things? QUOTE Single-player was enough to keep me busy and satisfied, but battling on Xbox Live is the closest thing a console game has come to online perfection. Matchmaking keeps you from being overwhelmed by unfair competition, the maps were meticulously thought out, and the depth of the statistics will please any anal number cruncher like myself. I can't believe how well the headset works. I've spent countless minutes just talking to friends between matches. Not even going to touch this. QUOTE Halo 2 is the kind of game that not only brings accolades to itself, but elevates its platform. It's proven to be the game to own -- thus making Xbox, Xbox Live, and its headset things that no self-respecting gamer would be without. Is this guy trying to give an opinion, or is he advertising for Microsoft? |
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My boyfriend got it for Christmas and we played last night. I suck at it. I'm having a hard time with the right analog, controlling where the guy's looking. And it gives me a headache.
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i thot it was a fun game kryo. And it topped my list among the games i played this year.
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w/ school
yep. yep i did. jw wut other games were there? |
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![]() 白人看不懂 !!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,838 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,824 ![]() |
got MGS3, HL2, and Ninja Gaidan
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I just finished playing it with some of my guy friends...it's pretty good, but among all the guys I suck at it.
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gosh some of my friends are completely obesessed..it is ridiculous!
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