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#51
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te quiero ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 2,586 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,678 ![]() |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 10 2004, 6:48 AM) nirvana is a state of non-existence. The difference is not that God is watching over us. The difference is that our human founder died and rose again. The man who started it all is still alive. dont be so f**king close-minded. if you want to win a debate, you actually have to listen to all sides of the arguement, not just repeat what you've been saying over and over again. dammit, you make me hate certain christians and i AM christian. we've already been informed that buddhists believe that buddha is still alive in a different place and different form. AS we believe Jesus is alive in spirit and is in heaven on the right seat of God. you can't just keep claiming that the main difference is that our God is a living God. yes, its true, but that's not going to make anyone else change their mind, when they believe that their god is living. TAKE AN EFFING DEBATE CLASS sorry for the swearing. i normally don't. but you're pissing me off. you're giving Christians a bad name just by the way you act. |
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![]() We are the cure. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,936 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,456 ![]() |
^I f**king worship you.
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#53
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![]() Will write poetry for sex! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,110 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 600 ![]() |
Sikdragon gets pwned left and right.
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#54
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![]() Carried away ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 356 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,462 ![]() |
QUOTE(waccoon @ Nov 11 2004, 1:34 AM) ^I f**king worship you. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() AMEN TO THAT! ![]() |
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#55
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lol. Also just to add this. We believe although controversial among the denominations that Christ arose in Body and spirit, leaving this world without shedding his body showing all perfection. So he is not dead bodily or spiritually in any sense. The founder of christianity is alive and will be until the ends of this earth. (The earth is the source of this time so the ending of it would end time until the new earth were created at which time could be recorded once again.)
I read that nirvana in proper context means to liberate. Liberating from the cycle of life death and reincarnation. A state of non-existence is beyond comprehension and explanation because there is no one all accepted recorded expierience of it. In a state of non-existence there is yet another form that doesnt exist, but yet has all power and knowledge? Just like lucifer to convince the hearts of men their ability to become Gods lies within their grasp. I have a question. How can you correct me on the state of nirvana when all you have is an argument of speculation against slightly founded specualtion? and xpoised, im not going to dignify that with a response. You contradict yourself saying that you are christian that serves God, but yet you are controlled by my actions. you cant serve to masters. |
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 11 2004, 3:23 PM) I read that nirvana in proper context means to liberate. Liberating from the cycle of life death and reincarnation. A state of non-existence is beyond comprehension and explanation because there is no one all accepted recorded expierience of it. In a state of non-existence there is yet another form that doesnt exist, but yet has all power and knowledge? So you read something and formulate your own interpretations to it without consulting those who know their religion? That's kind of funny that you assume that you know more about a person's religion than they do. I'm not Buddhist, but I grew up in a Buddhist family. My relatives are devoted to the Catholic faith, but I chose to believe in what I want which is something in between. However, I live in a house with a small shrine to one of the Buddhas, I think I would know more than you about Buddhist beliefs. You assume that Nirvana is a state of non-existent. Of course a case like this reminded me that you once said: "Changing my words to suit your own denial and self indulgence." You're guilty of self-indulgence, denial and of having a serpant's tongue when you make up things about another faith. Once again, you assume Nirvana to be a place of non-existence, thus it doesn't make sense to you that power and knowledge isn't possible there. But like I have said, Nirvana is a place that no mortal of this realm can understand because it is beyond our level of thinking. If that is the case, then you assuming Nirvana is non-existence would make you think of yourself as a superior human being by knowing what Nirvana is like. Stop making up things you think you know about Buddhism, please, or else you'd be forcing me to make up things about Christianity. Then we'll both be offended. QUOTE Just like lucifer to convince the hearts of men their ability to become Gods lies within their grasp. And it's just like you to believe that yours is the only one that's right and others are wrong. Thus this is an indirect claim that your religion is superior. When will you stop contradicting yourself? I do wonder. QUOTE I have a question. How can you correct me on the state of nirvana when all you have is an argument of speculation against slightly founded specualtion? Speculation? The only arguement I have with you is what you say about other religions when you barely know BASIC understanding of them. What I have to say about Buddhism is what I know of it from growing up in a family that follows it. I can hardly call it speculation. If you mean I speculate Buddhism, I can very well say you base YOUR faith on speculation as well. |
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#57
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The first deduction was one of logic. If nothing exists then how can something exist. Your claims are unfounded. My contradictions are yet to be seen, atleast in this instance. Quick with the mouth and slow with the thought. Utter disregard for any feelings but your own. I would say i forgive you alloud, but you would see that as condescending so you can assume in your own mind that i said it and i'll think it as loud as i can.
![]() my speculation is with a foundation of documentation and expierience. Yours however is split asunder among the primal urges of whispers on an ear. my simple psychological deduction in a new found expression of reality. what is with you and your high horse always claiming that i am always thinking behind the mask that my religion is superior. Let me explain before you explode again with your self-justified unfounded incredulous "pwns" My God, the only God has many names. Like there are many languages and cultures, so there are many similarities between morals among the cultures. Every culture views "My" God as their own in a different light. Native American tribes acknowledged the "Great Spirit". I've heard "Allah" is the Arabic word for God. Pagan Irish believed that all their God's were a part of the "great spirit of life" (life being more than just the essence of living). God has many identities and forms that have been discovered by every people because they are all individually different. "My" God's identity makes the most sense as written in the Torah and the King James version of the Bible, atleast to me. Superiority can easily be argued, because there is no right or wrong when it comes to how the understanding occurs. Just the fact that the understanding did happen without hinderance. Pride, labels, tradition, or hint's and whispers from lucifer urging us to what our potentially imperfect bodies want are all hindering us from hearing that which needs to be heard. |
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
silkdragon:
wow. i'm converted. your wonderful tolerance of other religions had finally convinced me that i'm suppost to be christian. thank you for saving me. now i can help spread the faith. i will go door to door and tell everyone[/u] about christ, and about how great he is. because the [i]bible says everyone must hear what jesus has to offer befor jesus will come, and i'm not being selfish by forcing everyone to listen. i am god's slave, and he is my master, but so is the pope, and so is the priest at the church. i'm not smart enough to make my own interpretations about the bible so i donate money to other people to do it for me. the old testamant has it, so i think next time i'm low on cash i'll sell someone into slavery. whoa, look i have morals and i'm christian and better than you. you'll be sent to eternal damnation if you don't convert now. look at me, you effing idiot. see what chistianity has done for me? i'll go around and force people to pray towards a cross, and i'll say idol worship is wrong. i'm moralic, and that's why i bomb the places of worship of other religions. wow, look at my wonderful christian morals. i'm going to bomb a mousque in iraq. thank you silkdragon, for saving me from the unmoralic life i lead as an infidel. excuse me, but i must go worship the devil now, because isn't that what ALL NONCHRISTIANS DO?!?!?! ` i apoligize to all the christians, besides silkdragon, that i may have offended with this post. unless you're like that to, and in that case feel free to be offended. |
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#59
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See noone reads anymore.
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 11 2004, 4:36 PM) The first deduction was one of logic. If nothing exists then how can something exist. Your claims are unfounded. Unfounded? So, by assuming that you know a religion then making stuff up doesn't make your deduction unfounded? Hmm, it looks like I should do the same with deducting stuff about Christianity. How many times must I repeat myself in order for you to listen and understand what I'm saying. You were whining in another thread about how you aren't listened to, and yet here you are guilty of that which annoyed you. You're off base even thinking to deduct anything about Nirvana because, once again for the umpteenth time, it is beyond normal human comprehension. If you didn't understand that then you're stupid. Period. QUOTE My contradictions are yet to be seen, atleast in this instance. Quick with the mouth and slow with the thought. Utter disregard for any feelings but your own. I would say i forgive you alloud, but you would see that as condescending so you can assume in your own mind that i said it and i'll think it as loud as i can. You forgive me? How about forgiving yourself for being a complete idiot who thinks he knows about other religions without opening his mind to them? The only thing I'm slow in is understanding the way your pitiful mind works. I have no regards for your feelings because you have no regards for the feelings of others who are unlike your. I treat people the way they deserved to be treated and obviously, if you feel that I'm not nice to you, then you just simply deserve it. Why do you love putting me down? First I have a serpent's tongue, now I'm "slow with the thought". Haha. What a kind Christian you are. Hahaha. Love your neighbor, eh? QUOTE what is with you and your high horse always claiming that i am always thinking behind the mask that my religion is superior. What is it with you and your wrong choice of words? I've said many times what I only read what you write. Okay how about we look at it this way: Why do you say that it's more important that your God is "alive" and that Buddha and Mohammed are "dead"? What is your reasoning for saying that "Just like lucifer to convince the hearts of men their ability to become Gods lies within their grasp?" Do you not mean to say that your god is superior because he is alive? Do you not mean to say that the Devil is the force behind Buddhism? If you do not mean any of the above, then why write them? You're incredibly STUPID for writing that and not expecting a person to be nice to you after wards. Incredibily stupid. Your god is great, but no other gods or idols can be great. That is what I am getting from your writings and OBVIOUSLY that is what you meant to convey. QUOTE My God, the only God has many names. Like there are many languages and cultures, so there are many similarities between morals among the cultures. Every culture views "My" God as their own in a different light. Native American tribes acknowledged the "Great Spirit". I've heard "Allah" is the Arabic word for God. Pagan Irish believed that all their God's were a part of the "great spirit of life" (life being more than just the essence of living). God has many identities and forms that have been discovered by every people because they are all individually different. "My" God's identity makes the most sense as written in the Torah and the King James version of the Bible, atleast to me. Superiority can easily be argued, because there is no right or wrong when it comes to how the understanding occurs. Just the fact that the understanding did happen without hinderance. Pride, labels, tradition, or hint's and whispers from lucifer urging us to what our potentially imperfect bodies want are all hindering us from hearing that which needs to be heard. If you were here a while back, you would realize that I hold a belief that God, Yaweh, Allah are all names for the same being. Sure there is a similarity in morality across cultures, you are stupid and self-centered to think that it's all the same because of you great Bible though. Morality came before religion, and certainly before your Bible. Notice that I didn't capitalized "God" many times when I have rarely forgoten to do so in the past. I'm doing it on purpose because I'm begining to dislike what your god stands for. (Your god, NOT the Christian's God). |
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even though i said you were going to react the way you did, still it surprises me just a little. I get that you read it and comprehended what i wrote. So you're in denial and can't change your stance because you're in too deep and might fall. You can get back out and come back in if you want. ill wait.
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 11 2004, 5:13 PM) even though i said you were going to react the way you did, still it surprises me just a little. I get that you read it and comprehended what i wrote. So you're in denial and can't change your stance because you're in too deep and might fall. You can get back out and come back in if you want. ill wait. I'm in deep but I know where I am because I'm respectful of other religions. Too bad I can't say the same for you. From now on, I will not see you as a Christian. You can preach what you want, but it's just going to be a pathetic act of comedy to me. |
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See me as you will, that is your choice. We both know my "act of pathetic comedy" didn't affect you the way you're saying it did.
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
Hahaha, so now you think to dictate how I feel?
AHAHAHA, Oh God Almighty, I bow down to your superior-ness!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() It's also pathetic how you're a sore loser who can't seem to accept defeat the gracious way. You just deny it in the way of calling the other person names like "serpent's tongue". Haahahahahahahaha. Come on, if you want to curse me, just say f**k YOU. |
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that would mean that i would like to fornicate with you, but you are way too bitter for my taste. No, you completely misunderstood the statement and you're taking it out of context. Can you dictate how you feel? Not without changing it to keep the integrity of your protective mask. Don't worry everybody has one.
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and you?
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everyone. The make-up and size varies.
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 11 2004, 5:26 PM) that would mean that i would like to fornicate with you, but you are way too bitter for my taste. No, you completely misunderstood the statement and you're taking it out of context. Can you dictate how you feel? Not without changing it to keep the integrity of your protective mask. Don't worry everybody has one. You're right, a whinny person like you would have more taste. My integrety certainly is more honorable than yours though, your Almighty-ness. |
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assume what you want.
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then you wear the mask of christianity. and you didn't put eyeholes.
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Hah good one.
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 11 2004, 5:36 PM) assume what you want. Damn right I am, with valid reasoning, too. ![]() Oh, I forgot to add: your Holy-ness. |
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valid? proclaim your own decrees, insult me as you wish. I don't need your approval. The superiority doesnt come from my religion, it comes from my blood. Im Irish.
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 11 2004, 6:08 PM) valid? proclaim your own decrees, insult me as you wish. I don't need your approval. The superiority doesnt come from my religion, it comes from my blood. Im Irish. My own and others who dislike your silly reasoning, your Irish Maleness. I thought your god said it was a sin to be prideful. You're sinning!!!!! Oh the HORROR> |
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![]() Debate Section Owner ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 22 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 62,042 ![]() |
That's right, Irish people rock!
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