Christianity Options

[expoised]

oh, ok fine.

but you guys don't think of him as God... right?

[Spirited Away]

No, because he/they do not claim to be God nor do they claim to be all powerful.

[sadolakced acid]

there are a lot of gods. they're all in heaven, all watching and stuff.

the first buddha did not claim to be one of them.

[expoised]

okay.... well that's your religion.

and that's what you believe...

but thats not what others think.

[sadolakced acid]

but it's what we're arguing.

you're saying christianity is different because your god is watching over you...


ours are too.

[expoised]

well you're not arguing anything when you say "there are a lot of gods in heaven". that's a statement. you gave no evidence or reason for you thinking that.

[Spirited Away]

poised,Nov 10 2004, 12:49 AM] well you're not arguing anything when you say "there are a lot of gods in heaven". that's a statement. you gave no evidence or reason for you thinking that.

It's a concept. Truth is irrelevant.

To each his/her own.

This post has been edited by uninspiredfae: Nov 10 2004, 12:54 AM

[sadolakced acid]

well, i guess i forgot to put:

buddhists belive

[Spirited Away]

well, i guess i forgot to put:

buddhists belive

Yea, I was about to ask you that, too. Hahaha, I didn't think you were Buddhist.

[sadolakced acid]

Yea, I was about to ask you that, too. Hahaha, I didn't think you were Buddhist.

well, my parents are buddhist, and my family is buddhist, and all the funerals i've been to are buddhist.

so i guess i'm buddhist... because when i get angry my dad reads to me about the 6th buddha.

but i don't know that much about buddhism, becuase my parents want me to find my own religon.




the point is... having a god isn't what makes christianity different.

in fact, i think what makes christianity different is the group thing...

the whole going to church and being with people who belive the same thing, who are there for you.

the fact that the religion makes it easy for you to be saved: you don't have to go to mecca or do good deeds, all you have to do is belive.

that's what really makes christianity different.

[CrimsonArchangel]

^ Is that a good thing or a bad thing? You didn't seem to argue either way...

And one more thing. JEsus did not ascend to heaven immediately three days after he died. He ressurected three days after his death, then walked the earth for some time ( a short period... not sure how long though... ) then he ascended to heaven. He was already alive when he went back to heaven.

I have refused to quote the Bible unless asked, only because I believe that it is taking it too far with those that don't quite believe the same I do... so if you want me to quote, I'll do it. If not, then I won't.

[sikdragon]

nirvana is a state of non-existence.

The difference is not that God is watching over us. The difference is that our human founder died and rose again. The man who started it all is still alive.

[Spirited Away]

nirvana is a state of non-existence.

Who made you the Nirvana expert? I thought we've long established the fact that you do not have a firm grasp of Buddhism (or much of any Eastern religion for that matter).

Nirvana is beyond human comprehension (just like some of the things God does is beyond Christian's understanding) simply because we cannot know of it until we escape the cycle of reincarnation. Nirvana, in Sanskrit, means to extinguish. In context to Buddhism and Hinduism, it means to extinguish ignorance, desire, hatred... earthly sufferings. It is when one gains omniscent knowledge of this world and beyond.

One who reaches Nirvana on their own is known as Buddha. One who reaches Nirvana with the help of a Buddha teachings is known as arhats. A Buddha would then exist in a world unlike this mortal realm. I usually think of it as a place similar to the Christian's Heaven, but I'm not quite sure if this is really the case.

The difference is not that God is watching over us. The difference is that our human founder died and rose again. The man who started it all is still alive.

Alive in SPIRIT. Just Buddhas are alive in a different place and in different form.


Hey Angel:

It's not a bad thing if one believes what he will without shoving it down other people's throats. If they just keep to their faith and leave other people to theirs, there is absolutely no problem with that.

[CrimsonArchangel]

And I very much agree.
...BUt I'm not quite sure to what of what I said was your post directed... Sorry, its been a *LONG* day.... to put it shortly, people disappoint me in their ignorance and naivete...

[sadolakced acid]

silkdragon:

you're saying that what makes more people choose christianity is because your god is 'alive'?

personally, i know this isn't true.

no one chooses to be christian simply because the god is 'alive'. at least, none of the christians i know.

[azn_r4pf4n]

The reason Christianity is real to me is because it is so different from other religions. It has been tested and questioned by the harshest critics. It has undergone the test of time and the story has still been remembered.

The most important diffence is, it's founder lives. Buddha, mohammed, and all the various cult leaders are all dead. Burried in the ground. Christians search for their founder and find an empty tomb of a living king.

i agree with what u said. "harshest"? lolz, u put it in a weird way. to b honest, the faith of christianity (im christian) would b in VAIN if Christ didn't resurrected. Buddha and mohammed died in their tombs, but not christ. i agree wit sikdragon.

[Spirited Away]

i agree with what u said. "harshest"? lolz, u put it in a weird way. to b honest, the faith of christianity (im christian) would b in VAIN if Christ didn't resurrected. Buddha and mohammed died in their tombs, but not christ. i agree wit sikdragon.

You people annoy me so much. (Which is a great feat since I am not that easily provoked )

Read the damn thread before posting, mkay? Don't just focus on what is said about YOUR religion.

Death is trivial in Buddhism. One reaches another level of life when one lives by the guidance of Buddha and the Buddha himself and other Buddhas reach Nirvana.

While being found alive is obviously a revered thing in Christianity, being able to get rid of worldly desire is revered in Buddhism. Stop looking at this whole thing from just one point of view and making WRONG assumptions and outbursts that are meaningless.

This is what I mean when I said in the previous post that minorities, religion wise, are NOT listened to, and obviously you proved that we are not heard inside AND outside of these forums.

"Inside this forum, though we are minorities, we have the chance to have our say but outside this forum, we are voiceless minorities. It's not because we are afraid to speak against the mass, far from it, it is because we will not be listened to.

You heard me. We are not listened to. Surprised now, are we? Don't be. The most intelligent of men were persecuted by the "good" faith of others simply because they were not listened to no matter how strong their voice rang out. In fact, the louder they were, the more they were punished for it. That is what history has taught us about religion: "might is right". "

[azn_r4pf4n]

Read the damn thread before posting, mkay? Don't just focus on what is said about YOUR religion.

yes i did read it b4 posting =D

[Spirited Away]

yes i did read it b4 posting =D

Then obviously, one can deduct the following with your response:

1) You're too self-absorbed with your own religion and consider it to be superior so you do not care to learn about others.

2) You did not understand a word I said because your reading skills... suck.

3) You purposely ignore what I said because you're close-minded.

4) You don't care that you're stupid and refuse to even acknowledge the fact that people who know their own faith knows that the Buddha's passing can be a good thing instead of bad.

All in all, you people should just stick to what you know and stop making up stupid stuff you assume you know about other religions. Why? Because when you venture out to learn something, you should open your mind to possibilities instead of steadfastly grasping on to what you already know for dear life. It's a cowardly act and not to mention it wastes your time and mine having to read what you have to say.

[pandamonium]

All in all, you people should just stick to what you know and stop making up stupid stuff you assume you know about other religions.

what do you mean... "You People"..uninspiredfae ? christians.. or sikdragon and azn_r4pf4n ???

[Spirited Away]

what do you mean... "You People"..uninspiredfae ? christians.. or sikdragon and azn_r4pf4n ???

"You people" are those who fit the description following it.

[pandamonium]

"You people" are those who fit the description following it.

wait i didnt really get that .. do you mean christians ?

[Spirited Away]

wait i didnt really get that .. do you mean christians ?

Damn it, go learn puns, sarcasm, satire... all together... get some WIT.

I mean, whoever fits the description of "making up stupid stuff" about other religions without understanding it, and people who " steadfastly grasp on to what [they] already know for dear life".

No I did not say ALL Christians. There are Christians who do know only one truth but they do not shove their faith down other people's throats. Those that do force their religion are the "you people" I'm talking about.

Come on, get with it.

[pandamonium]

Damn it, go learn puns, sarcasm, satire... all together... get some WIT.

I mean, whoever fits the description of "making up stupid stuff" about other religions without understanding it, and people who " steadfastly grasp on to what [they] already know for dear life".

No I did not say ALL Christians. There are Christians who do know only one truth but they do not shove their faith down other people's throats. Those that do force their religion are the "you people" I'm talking about.

Come on, get with it. 

jeze ! calm down ... daym... anyways i thought you said we had "matching wits" ???

yea i kno i agree with you ... they shouldnt force anybody to believe in this or that ...

[Spirited Away]

matching wits=butting heads.