THE OFFICIAL MOS DEF ALBUM POST, THE NEW DANGER |
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 Oct 12 2004, 07:20 PM
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This CD is nothing like anything I ever heard before. It reminds me of a certain Benjamin Andre CD or somewhat like Electric Circus.
Well, I got it today. You can't really describe it. It's rap, jazz, rock and more like all mixed. Lots of rock beats, totally different from Black on Both Sides. I totally respect Mos Def as an artist. It's either love or hate I guess. I didn't like Andre's album at first but now I find it good (except for My Favorite Things), so you might feel that way with The New Danger. feel free to chime in. also bay area heads the frontline cd came out too... i didnt get a chance to cop it but you know im gonna get it. tracklisting ------------TRACKLISTING------------- 01 02:23 The Boogie Man Song 02 02:20 Freaky Black Greetings 03 03:53 Ghetto Rock 04 03:41 Zimzallabim 05 01:34 The Rape Over 06 05:47 Blue Black Jack 07 04:32 Bedstuy Parade & Funeral Marc 08 04:10 Sex, Love, And Money 09 04:25 Sunshine 10 03:10 Close Edge 11 04:11 The Panties 12 03:07 War 13 03:24 Grown Man Business (Fresh Vintage Bottles) Feat. Minnesota 14 09:19 Modern Marvel 15 03:11 Life Is Real 16 05:32 The Easy Spell 17 05:19 The Begger 18 04:53 Champion Requiem --------------------------------------------------------------- total playtime: 74:51 mins. modern marvel - crazy ten minute song |
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Nov 9 2004, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Nov 8 2004, 7:34 PM) I just think that the beats were too club oriented. I mean, he made this album so that it would be more mainstream, and so that he could sell more, but I don't like the end product. I wasn't expecting another Train of Thought or Blackstar, but I was hoping it would be similar to Quality. And it's not. you don't have an idea of what you're talkin' about.... he didn't make an album to sell... ARE YOU CRAZY!?!?!?! he was as "REAL", if not more, than on ANY ALBUM HE'S BEEN ON... Track 1 - Revolution/Going Hard - he's talkin' about kids in Sierra Leone gettin' their arms chopped off while they're mining and fans/critics askin' how he can rappers wear diamonds around their necks knowing/not knowing this.... c'mon... get real... stop listenin' to the beats and listen to the lyrics.... Talib's album is AMAZING... and the craziest thing is, they took two of the best songs from off the advance... (1) because they couldn't clear a sample (LONELY PEOPLE - ya'll gotta hear this song if you haven't cuz it's one of the greatest songs Talib's ever made and it's just straight AMAZING), and (2) I have no idea but it was called Supreme with Mos Def and that track was CRAZY!!!! Anyway, the only "club banger" beat was the Neptunes produced one and that song was sick IMO... once again, listen to the lyrics... it had nothing to do with partying/clubbing/girls/anything of that nature.... it was actually a story-line talkin' about a girl who threw her life away. It was definitely better than Quality (though Quality is a near classic) but I think this album is a classic.... that's my opinion but I love EVERY track to the enth degree... I love it as much as Train of thought and Blackstar (two AMAZING albums at that) back to Broken Glass - read the lyrics... they're deep and DOPE AS F*CK... [Pharrell] Kweli!!! [T. Kweli] Yeah! They wasn't expecting this! that's why ya [Pharrell] Hahaha [T. Kweli] Gotta hope for the best and play 'em for the worst, c'mon! [Pharrell] Muhf**kers is history! [T. Kweli] C'mon!! [Verse - Talib Kweli] This the story of - Lucy In The Sky Wit Diamonds Ask her why she crying, she wanna live, she got no time for dying Was a science, dreams too big for a small town She gotta get to New York and watch a door fall down Hopped off the Greyhound, gotta make her way now She sleeping on the park benches in the playground But cash burn quick, don't wanna have to turn trick Ready to quit 'til she met the super pimp Flashing his toothy smile that drove little Lucy wild She quick to hop up on his d*ck straight Hoopie style She let the fella hit but she sang she sell-a-bit [celebate] He ain't buying that, she ain't selling it She looking for love in all of the above Believing videos, trying to back up all on a thug Who wanna - put it in her, withdraw like a Citi card But now she shake that ass for tips at the titty bar [Chorus - Talib Kweli] (Pharrell) Broken glass - everywhere! (IT'S LOUDER!!) Louder - than a bomb shattered in in the air (IT'S LOUDER!!) Try to hold back your tears baby! (IT'S LOUDER!!) Wait a second, what happens here baby? (IT'S LOUDER!!) Broken glass - everywhere! (IT'S LOUDER!!) Louder - than a bomb shattered in in the air, yeah (How many of y'all think you can do what we do?!) Yeah! Wait a second (One! Two! Three! C'mon!) [Verse - Talib Kweli] Dreams shattered like broken glass Press ignore it and your hopes get broken fast You complain for the life you supposed to have But when you try to make plans God is known to laugh Throw a song on the phonograph, and Lucy start wilin The trick start smiling, watch the loot start flying The Gucci start pilling up, she live designer plush Start lining up the coke so she could find a rush Time's up, she's about to turn 33 Her shit started to sag, she got surgery Now cats are used to drive past her like a Church van Acting on thirst, 'She Wants To Move' like a N.E.R.D. fan Bigger house, 10,000 dollar purse fam She let you in, she wanted rent by the 1st man She the ring leader in a clique of birds And they shadowy, like the silhouette behind the curtain [Chorus] [Verse - Talib Kweli] She was a small city girl with big city dreams Niggaz try to figure how to get up in them jeans Put her in them scenes, get her on the team Hit her wit the cream 'til they figured out the schemes Now she all up in the club looking for a new love Really like Huey Lewis looking for a new drug Cause coke's getting old, started free basing Graduated to crack, smack on occasion Not catching the bus, but back at the station Back and forth pacing, acting all impatient Last hundred dollars, she got to 'Get By' Now gotta make a choice, go home or get high Mommy and daddy miss her, she left for the fame Now what's left is the dirt that's thrown on her name She need a ticket home if it's the right course Instead she bought a ticket to ride the white horse [Chorus] |
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Nov 9 2004, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(lucky_clover @ Oct 14 2004, 10:42 PM) never heard of them before until now. haha me too,feel so left out |
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Nov 9 2004, 04:36 PM
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that's nice....
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Nov 9 2004, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Nov 9 2004, 7:32 AM) you don't have an idea of what you're talkin' about.... he didn't make an album to sell... ARE YOU CRAZY!?!?!?! he was as "REAL", if not more, than on ANY ALBUM HE'S BEEN ON... Track 1 - Revolution/Going Hard - he's talkin' about kids in Sierra Leone gettin' their arms chopped off while they're mining and fans/critics askin' how he can rappers wear diamonds around their necks knowing/not knowing this.... c'mon... get real... stop listenin' to the beats and listen to the lyrics.... Talib's album is AMAZING... and the craziest thing is, they took two of the best songs from off the advance... (1) because they couldn't clear a sample (LONELY PEOPLE - ya'll gotta hear this song if you haven't cuz it's one of the greatest songs Talib's ever made and it's just straight AMAZING), and (2) I have no idea but it was called Supreme with Mos Def and that track was CRAZY!!!! Anyway, the only "club banger" beat was the Neptunes produced one and that song was sick IMO... once again, listen to the lyrics... it had nothing to do with partying/clubbing/girls/anything of that nature.... it was actually a story-line talkin' about a girl who threw her life away. It was definitely better than Quality (though Quality is a near classic) but I think this album is a classic.... that's my opinion but I love EVERY track to the enth degree... I love it as much as Train of thought and Blackstar (two AMAZING albums at that) back to Broken Glass - read the lyrics... they're deep and DOPE AS F*CK... [Pharrell] Kweli!!! [T. Kweli] Yeah! They wasn't expecting this! that's why ya [Pharrell] Hahaha [T. Kweli] Gotta hope for the best and play 'em for the worst, c'mon! [Pharrell] Muhf**kers is history! [T. Kweli] C'mon!! [Verse - Talib Kweli] This the story of - Lucy In The Sky Wit Diamonds Ask her why she crying, she wanna live, she got no time for dying Was a science, dreams too big for a small town She gotta get to New York and watch a door fall down Hopped off the Greyhound, gotta make her way now She sleeping on the park benches in the playground But cash burn quick, don't wanna have to turn trick Ready to quit 'til she met the super pimp Flashing his toothy smile that drove little Lucy wild She quick to hop up on his d*ck straight Hoopie style She let the fella hit but she sang she sell-a-bit [celebate] He ain't buying that, she ain't selling it She looking for love in all of the above Believing videos, trying to back up all on a thug Who wanna - put it in her, withdraw like a Citi card But now she shake that ass for tips at the titty bar [Chorus - Talib Kweli] (Pharrell) Broken glass - everywhere! (IT'S LOUDER!!) Louder - than a bomb shattered in in the air (IT'S LOUDER!!) Try to hold back your tears baby! (IT'S LOUDER!!) Wait a second, what happens here baby? (IT'S LOUDER!!) Broken glass - everywhere! (IT'S LOUDER!!) Louder - than a bomb shattered in in the air, yeah (How many of y'all think you can do what we do?!) Yeah! Wait a second (One! Two! Three! C'mon!) [Verse - Talib Kweli] Dreams shattered like broken glass Press ignore it and your hopes get broken fast You complain for the life you supposed to have But when you try to make plans God is known to laugh Throw a song on the phonograph, and Lucy start wilin The trick start smiling, watch the loot start flying The Gucci start pilling up, she live designer plush Start lining up the coke so she could find a rush Time's up, she's about to turn 33 Her shit started to sag, she got surgery Now cats are used to drive past her like a Church van Acting on thirst, 'She Wants To Move' like a N.E.R.D. fan Bigger house, 10,000 dollar purse fam She let you in, she wanted rent by the 1st man She the ring leader in a clique of birds And they shadowy, like the silhouette behind the curtain [Chorus] [Verse - Talib Kweli] She was a small city girl with big city dreams Niggaz try to figure how to get up in them jeans Put her in them scenes, get her on the team Hit her wit the cream 'til they figured out the schemes Now she all up in the club looking for a new love Really like Huey Lewis looking for a new drug Cause coke's getting old, started free basing Graduated to crack, smack on occasion Not catching the bus, but back at the station Back and forth pacing, acting all impatient Last hundred dollars, she got to 'Get By' Now gotta make a choice, go home or get high Mommy and daddy miss her, she left for the fame Now what's left is the dirt that's thrown on her name She need a ticket home if it's the right course Instead she bought a ticket to ride the white horse [Chorus] umm sorry but everybody makes albums to sell... and i agree that the beats are too club orientated (broken glass, A Game, etc) but his lyricism is still above average... i wouldnt say classic tho |
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Nov 9 2004, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(Topheavy @ Nov 9 2004, 7:31 PM) umm sorry but everybody makes albums to sell... and i agree that the beats are too club orientated (broken glass, A Game, etc) but his lyricism is still above average... i wouldnt say classic tho once again... I think it's a CLASSIC EASILY.... beats aren't too club orientated... only Broken Glass but the tracks have nothing to do with "club orientated" so it doesn't make a difference.... if the lyrics aren't club orientated but ONE beat sounds like it, it doesn't mean that the tracks are "too club orientated".... still a classic EASILY.... AMAZING album... I disagree with you on this too |
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Nov 9 2004, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Nov 9 2004, 5:15 PM) once again... I think it's a CLASSIC EASILY.... beats aren't too club orientated... only Broken Glass but the tracks have nothing to do with "club orientated" so it doesn't make a difference.... if the lyrics aren't club orientated but ONE beat sounds like it, it doesn't mean that the tracks are "too club orientated".... still a classic EASILY.... AMAZING album... I disagree with you on this too so you are saying A Game, we got the beat, work it out arent club orientated beats? |
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Nov 9 2004, 09:09 PM
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Have you guys seen his video for "Sex, Love, & Money" yet? Man, I've been looking for it on the net and can't find it. I would just wait for it to come on TV, but you know BET and MTV... they're too busy playing out Nelly and Lil Jon videos to actually be playing a REAL artist's video instead. Plus I'm never home to be watchin TV.
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Nov 9 2004, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Nov 9 2004, 6:09 PM) Have you guys seen his video for "Sex, Love, & Money" yet? Man, I've been looking for it on the net and can't find it. I would just wait for it to come on TV, but you know BET and MTV... they're too busy playing out Nelly and Lil Jon videos to actually be playing a REAL artist's video instead. Plus I'm never home to be watchin TV. Plus, I really wanna see Mos Def's sexy ass. yeah its on mtv.com i think |
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Nov 9 2004, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(Topheavy @ Nov 9 2004, 10:14 PM) yeah its on mtv.com i think I already looked. Not there. |
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Nov 9 2004, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Nov 9 2004, 6:18 PM) I already looked. Not there. http://click.rollingstone.com/?pageid=rs.A...%26id%3D6594285 there you go haha its in streaming real audio form |
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Nov 9 2004, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(Topheavy @ Nov 9 2004, 10:22 PM) http://click.rollingstone.com/?pageid=rs.A...%26id%3D6594285 there you go haha its in streaming real audio form arrgg.. shoot. i was playing it with my mom sitting behind me... i didnt know they were going to show titties. ughhh.... |
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Nov 9 2004, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Nov 9 2004, 6:26 PM) arrgg.. shoot. i was playing it with my mom sitting behind me... i didnt know they were going to show titties. ughhh.... ahahahhaha i didnt even watch it yet... titties eh? ok im going to watch it |
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Nov 9 2004, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(Topheavy @ Nov 9 2004, 10:28 PM) ahahahhaha i didnt even watch it yet... titties eh? ok im going to watch it Ok, I just finished watching the whole thing. It looks like something that should be on BET Uncut. I'm am VERY disappointed in this video... and Mos Def.  I still think Sunshine should have been the first single. OH well. |
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Nov 9 2004, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(Topheavy @ Nov 9 2004, 8:50 PM) so you are saying A Game, we got the beat, work it out arent club orientated beats? A Game, yeah, probably... MAYBE We Got the Beat BUT DEFINITELY not Work It Out... Work It Out WOULD NEVER EVER BE PLAYED IN A CLUB... the shit's not "live" enough... the tempo/drum pattern/instrumental in general, isn't even somethin' to put a bodily rhythm to.... so I'll give you the maybe and that's still 3 outta 12 tracks that's "club orientated" beat-wise.... but the lyrics nor the hook are ANYTHING you'd put into a "club banger".... so the song isn't "club orientated".... listen to ANY "club banger" and it won't have lyrics remotely close to the type of lyrics Kweli put in.... still not "too club orientated".... no songs about "get'cha hands up"... "party 'n drink", "grab ya hoes/b*tches", "shake that ass", blah blah blah NOT ONE.... oh, and Xquizit, you peep the John Legend yet? I'd like to know what'chu thought 'bout it |
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Nov 9 2004, 11:29 PM
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yeah but how many songs in blackstar/reflection eternal/quality CONBINED are club orientated?
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Nov 9 2004, 11:33 PM
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DAMN, THAT WAS A FAST ASS REPLY... ummm... Quality had a few... I'm 'bout ta go through that album real quick and put it on and tell you which ones..... ummm... Blackstar had none from what I remember.. I just listened to Reflection Eternal today and I would say a few had "club banger beats" but wasn't a club banger due to the lyrics... JUST AS BEAUTIFUL STRUGGLE....
UPDATED: Waiting for the DJ was one... Rush had a "club banger" type beat IMO but wasn't a club banger cuz the lyrics..... |
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Nov 9 2004, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Nov 9 2004, 8:33 PM) DAMN, THAT WAS A FAST ASS REPLY... ummm... Quality had a few... I'm 'bout ta go through that album real quick and put it on and tell you which ones..... ummm... Blackstar had none from what I remember.. I just listened to Reflection Eternal today and I would say a few had "club banger beats" but wasn't a club banger due to the lyrics... JUST AS BEAUTIFUL STRUGGLE.... UPDATED: Waiting for the DJ was one... Rush had a "club banger" type beat IMO but wasn't a club banger cuz the lyrics..... nah "feel the rush" is a maybe... and waiting for the DJ is too slow to be a real club banger... im just saying this is the first album with real club beats... you could walk in a club and hear "broken glass" playing... i even hear broken glass playing on local radio stations between some lil jon and lil scrappy... |
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Nov 9 2004, 11:55 PM
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but does the beat really make the song!?!?!? c'mon Topheavy, I thought more of you than that.... the lyrics make the song... you should know that, ESPECIALLY as an MC....
someone can take a WACK ASS beat and make a great song outta it if he can somehow make a hook and flow and lyrics that goes perfectly to it.... ummm... listen to J.U (Juice/J.U.Ice/MC Juice)... made a lotta dope songs (even without hott hooks) on bad beats... ummm.... aside from that... if someone gives you a SAD ASS BEAT, it doesn't make a sad song... ummm... listen to Ni99az by Triangle Offense (Joe Budden, Fabolous, and Paul Cain for those that don't know)... if you listen to the instrumental alone, it sounds like some sensual/sad type shit... but they end up spittin' some punchline oriented type shit... so is it some sad shit? no... it's some punchline type shit.... OH YEAH, and Waiting for the DJ isn't too slow of a beat... only the hook is slow but the beat for the verses are fast................ that's my word AND |
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Nov 10 2004, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Nov 9 2004, 9:33 PM) Ok, I just finished watching the whole thing. It looks like something that should be on BET Uncut. I'm am VERY disappointed in this video... and Mos Def. I still think Sunshine should have been the first single. OH well. I agree. Too much booty and titties. But it makes sense though, the song is called, "Sex, Love and Money." [edit] But Mos was looking HELLA sexxy though. [/edit] [edit] I don't really like "Sunshine." For his next single, I would love for him to release "The Panties."[/edit] |
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Nov 10 2004, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(MissMata @ Nov 10 2004, 1:03 AM) [edit] But Mos was looking HELLA sexxy though. [/edit] [edit] I don't really like "Sunshine." For his next single, I would love for him to release "The Panties."[/edit] Oh, did he.  We got to see him shirtless!I do like "The Panties" but I'm not sure if it would get much airplay. Champion Requiem may also make a solid single... I get the feeling that "Ghetto Rock" will be his next single... |
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Nov 10 2004, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Nov 10 2004, 11:06 AM) Champion Requiem may also make a solid single... I get the feeling that "Ghetto Rock" will be his next single... Ghetto Rock would be a hot single. |
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Nov 15 2004, 01:49 AM
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I dunno if it's officially a single, but Ghetto Rock has been rendered into a video. Check it out on Launch.com.
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Nov 15 2004, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(MissMata @ Nov 15 2004, 2:49 AM) I dunno if it's officially a single, but Ghetto Rock has been rendered into a video. Check it out on Launch.com. See, I was right! - edit - This video is muuuch better. No ass and titties. |
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Nov 15 2004, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Nov 15 2004, 9:19 AM) See, I was right! - edit - This video is muuuch better. No ass and titties. I was thinking the exact same thing. |
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Dec 8 2004, 11:16 PM
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Amberific. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,913 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,772 |
Okay, y'all. I don't know if you knew but Mos has been nominated for a Grammy. Here's the info:
QUOTE Best Urban/Alternative Performance Sex, Love & Money Mos Def Are You Experienced? Musiq She Wants To Move N.E.R.D Star The Roots Cross My Mind Jill Scott What do you think about this and who do you think will win? |
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