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Nadar, who did you vote for?
dreamerOi
post Nov 2 2004, 09:29 PM
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Just some reasons why you should have vote for Nadar. &also who did you/your parents vote for?

20 reasons to vote for Ralph Nader on November 2
Nader is not for sale.
If you believe that big business’ money is corrupting American politics, vote for the only Presidential candidate who practices campaign finance reform. Ralph Nader is accepting no PAC money, no corporate contributions and no soft money and no support from 527 groups. The other candidates just talk and look for the loophole of the moment. Nader walks the campaign finance reform walk while he advocates public funding and an end to political advantage for sale to the highest bidder.

Nader’s 40-year record of fighting for Americans is well known.
He’s brought us safer cars, a cleaner environment and more open and accountable government. Everyone knows that politics is broken for the average guy and works smoothly for the rich and powerful. The only candidate capable of reforming the system is Ralph Nader because he knows what is broken, why it is broken, and how to fix it.

Nader is the most effective candidate in the race.
In his 40 year career in Washington, he has been the driving forced behind such landmark pieces of legislation as the Motor Vehicle and Highway Safety Acts, The Clean Water Act, Occupational Safety and Health Administration and the Freedom of Information Act. Nader knows more about the workings of government than the other two candidates. He is also honest when he finds policies and agencies beyond reform without surgical removal of corporate controls.

Nader would never allow activist conservative judges onto federal benches.
Ralph Nader vigorously fought the confirmation of the Supreme Court justices Antonion Scalia and Clarence Thomas. The Democrats held the Senate during the confirmation votes for both justices: they voted 50-0 in favor of Scalia; later, 11 Democrats put Thomas over the top. A vote for Ralph Nader is a vote to fight for impartial, fair Supreme Court justices.

A vote for Nader is a vote for the end of politics as usual.
With your vote, Ralph Nader will lay the foundation for a new American political movement that will begin taking political power back from the elites. It will shift the power away from the corporations, their K Street lobbyists, and their attorneys and back to the citizens—as the Constitution intended.

Nader is the only candidate demanding health care for all.
Forty-six million Americans have no health insurance-nearly a 30% increase since 1992. Ours is the only industrial democracy without healthcare for everyone. Our current system is also incredibly wasteful; we spend enough to provide universal coverage, but private administrative costs amount to a whopping one-quarter of all health care expenditures.

Nader fights to save America’s family farms.
Our small rural communities are the backbone of this country. The other candidates have accepted large contributions from huge agribusiness corporations’ intent on displacing small farmers.

Ralph Nader is against the death penalty.
George W. Bush is for it; John Kerry supports the death penalty for terrorists.

Nader stands against racial discrimination.
Ralph Nader has always been a strong supporter of affirmative action. He has fought bank red lining. He calls for an overhaul of the criminal justice system, decriminalization of drug offenses and community policing. Racial discrimination pervades America, from the workplace to the courtroom, from the banks to the police beats. To realize needed reforms, Nader argues we must redistribute power in this country without regard to race, creed, age, sex, or sexual preference.

Nader stands against Taft-Hartley
Ralph Nader is the only candidate who has called for the repeal of the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947, the “chokehold on American labor.” Only Nader has a record of fighting vigorously for working Americans—by first opposing the WTO and NAFTA and now calling for their repeal and reform, to uphold worker’s rights worldwide and to save jobs at home.

Nader stands against the bloated Defense budget.
Only Ralph Nader has the courage and resolve to rethink our military budget now that the Cold War is over. We must cut the egregious waste and pork barrel weapons projects and improve the conditions our fighting men and women live under. We must not throw money away on a clearly unworkable missile defense system. We must work to abolish nuclear weapons.

Nader stands against discrimination based on sexual preference.
Ralph Nader is the only candidate who supports equal rights for gays and lesbians—in the military, in civil unions, and on the job. As he says, “We will look back years from now at our current treatment of gays and lesbians as medieval.”

Nader opposes genetically modified foods.
Ralph Nader is the only candidate in the race who agrees with the ninety percent of Americans who want genetically engineered food to be labeled so they can decide whether or not to eat it. Kerry and Bush are against labeling.

Nader supports a living wage.
Ralph Nader is not content that only the top 15-20% of the people in this country is doing well financially. He pushes for reversing 24 years of wage stagnation for the majority of Americans. Nader calls for the raising the minimum wage to its 1960 buying power, or about $10/hr.

Nader supports a crackdown on corporate crime.
Ralph Nader thinks it’s high time the law be enforced against corporate crime and violence, which kills more people and causes more economic losses, by far, than street crime.

Nader opposes corporate welfare.
Ralph Nader is the only candidate who calls for an end to such corporate welfare and redistribution of the proceeds to rebuild the national infrastructure. Hundreds of billions of your tax dollars are spent annually on subsidies and giveaways to large corporations in the United States every year.

Ralph Nader will fight for the abolition of child poverty in America.
Nader supports fair taxation.
Ralph Nader believes taxes should apply first to behavior and conditions we least favor, such as the clearly addictive industries (alcohol and tobacco), pollution, stock speculation, gambling, extreme luxuries, instead of the 5% to 8.5% sales tax on food, furniture, clothing or books.

Nader Supports the Protection of our National Forests
Ralph Nader is the only candidate who would end all logging in our National Forests and use the 1.2 billion to restore those forests. The Federal Government subsidizes the logging of our National Forests to the tune of 1.2 billion dollars annually, yielding just 3% of the national timber harvest.

A vote for Nader is a vote of conscience.
If you agree that Ralph Nader is the only Presidential candidate in the race capable of reforming politics so that the power rests once more with the people of America, instead of with big business, will you vote for Ralph in November? Do you expect your members of Congress to vote their consciences? Then shouldn’t you?
 
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post Nov 2 2004, 09:32 PM
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Go Ralph Nader thumbsup.gif

But i don't know much about politics and our gov. since i choose not to learn about it.
And, i don't favor Bush or Kerry.

So whos there thats left?.. Nader.

So.. Go Ralph Nader.

But.. he unno noe about foreign affairs.. ermm.gif
 
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post Nov 2 2004, 09:47 PM
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nadar knows nothing of forign affairs. if you want the country terrorized to death, by all means, vote for him
 
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post Nov 3 2004, 01:23 AM
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i think ppl shouldnt waste their vote on nader cause most likely those ppl would vote for kerry over bush, so voting for nader is like voting for bush cuz it helps him.
 
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post Nov 3 2004, 06:45 AM
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It's spelled Nader right? Like, Darth Nader. _smile.gif


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i think ppl shouldnt waste their vote on nader cause most likely those ppl would vote for kerry over bush, so voting for nader is like voting for bush cuz it helps him.


True. On some leaked district results, there was a tie between bush and kerry, which could have been broken if those who voted for nader didn't.
 
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post Nov 3 2004, 06:47 AM
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My parents voted for Bush.
 
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post Nov 3 2004, 08:08 AM
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if i could vote,ill vote for kerry....
 
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post Nov 3 2004, 08:10 AM
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i'm sorry, but a vote for nadar isn't really helping him. he isn't running to win. he's a business man who had NEVER done anything in government. money plays a huge part in his running in every effing single election.

a vote for nadar is a wasted vote.
 
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post Nov 3 2004, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE([X)
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a vote for nadar is a wasted vote.

take in notice that not support nader (bush already won anyway)...

a vote for nader, or any other 3rd party canidate, is NOT wasted vote.
a wasted vote is voting for bush and kerry when you DON'T support them.
it doesn't matter if they have a chance or not. i would rather have my vote going to someone who i believe in, whether or not they have a chance.
 
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QUOTE(airam @ Nov 3 2004, 3:04 PM)
take in notice that not support nader (bush already won anyway)...

a vote for nader, or any other 3rd party canidate, is NOT wasted vote.
a wasted vote is voting for bush and kerry when you DON'T support them.
it doesn't matter if they have a chance or not. i would rather have my vote going to someone who i believe in, whether or not they have a chance.

actually, it is a wasted vote. compaign for your canidate, support them all the way, but when it comes down to the time to vote, vote for the lesser of the two evils. as people are constantly saying, every vote counts, so make it count. by voting for someone without a chance, voting for nadar is as useless as voting for mickey mouse. theyre both write-ins, are they not?
 
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post Nov 3 2004, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(my_papaya @ Nov 3 2004, 3:49 PM)
actually, it is a wasted vote. compaign for your canidate, support them all the way, but when it comes down to the time to vote, vote for the lesser of the two evils. as people are constantly saying, every vote counts, so make it count. by voting for someone without a chance, voting for nadar is as useless as voting for mickey mouse. theyre both write-ins, are they not?

I'll quote ComradeRed again. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. A vote is only wasted when it is not for the person you believe in or your ballot is not counted. If you agree with what Nader stands for, by all means, vote for him. If you agree with what Mickey Mouse stands for, vote for him.
 
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(my_papaya @ Nov 3 2004, 3:49 PM)
actually, it is a wasted vote. compaign for your canidate, support them all the way, but when it comes down to the time to vote, vote for the lesser of the two evils. as people are constantly saying, every vote counts, so make it count. by voting for someone without a chance, voting for nadar is as useless as voting for mickey mouse. theyre both write-ins, are they not?

i just LOVE to be quoting badnarik.org but, "Somehow the term 'thinking for yourself' has become 'wasting your vote'. The definition of liberty is making your own choices."
 
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post Nov 3 2004, 07:39 PM
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i really did go quite a while believing that you should vote for whomever you believe in, but as election results begin coming in, and you see them announcing only the two main canidates and not recognizing the others like michael badnarik. while yes, in a fairer society they should get a fair chance, but the way it is now, you may as well not have voted. you may be doing what is right, but youre not helping anything either. its basically apathy to be able to vote and vote for something that doesnt help.
 
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post Nov 4 2004, 10:29 AM
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teh NADERATOR!!!
 
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post Nov 4 2004, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(Jason61992 @ Nov 4 2004, 10:29 AM)
teh NADERATOR!!!

Spam. You've been warned before.
 
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post Nov 4 2004, 03:14 PM
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^jason spams constantly
 
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post Nov 4 2004, 03:20 PM
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thanks for the help on my english homework happy.gif hehe... personally i wanted nader to win because... well hes a third party dude... third party is the best
 
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^not necessarily. they may not be recoginized enough even though they may have the right ideas, but being a third party doesnt make them right.

i dont think that made sense, sorry

whoa whoa, you play E flat clarinet? ive never actually met any clarinet player who plays an E flat. B flat for me...
 
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post Nov 4 2004, 04:35 PM
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I like that Badnarik quote. It's very true.
 
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"If you were in prison, and you had a 50% chance of lethal injection, 45% chance of the electric chair, and 5% chance of escape, which would you choose?"
--Badnarik
 
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thats a better quote, but its not entirely compatible seeing as the election depends on an entire nations worth of people while escaping the death penalty, far fewer
 
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post Nov 5 2004, 11:38 PM
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go nader. lol . nader was the unheard voice of this whole thing.. how much of the percentage did he get 1, 2 or 3......?
 
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Nader supports a living wage.
Ralph Nader is not content that only the top 15-20% of the people in this country is doing well financially. He pushes for reversing 24 years of wage stagnation for the majority of Americans. Nader calls for the raising the minimum wage to its 1960 buying power, or about $10/hr.


but if minimum wage was $10/hr, then prices would go up. like instead of buying a meal at mcdonalds or somethin for only $3, u would have to pay like $6
 
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QUOTE(dafunnybunny @ Nov 5 2004, 11:51 PM)
but if minimum wage was $10/hr, then prices would go up. like instead of buying a meal at mcdonalds or somethin for only $3, u would have to pay like $6

ah yes, you must not forget that lovely little thing calledinflation. it in part caused the downfall of the roman empire, so dont doubt that it can wreck a modern republic either
 
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at school we had a election to see who our school president would be (you had to vote). George bush won by like... 20 something votes. Kerry won popular vote by 1 vote. but nadar (or is it nader?) had 23 votes. lol




my dad voted for nadar mellow.gif
 

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