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[Spirited Away]

personally, if bush enacts a nation wide led school prayer ( where they read a bible verse over the intercom) ( and he said he would) i will presonally chant anti-christ things during it. like... hail bush! he is the supreme reincarnation of the great lucifer!


god and government need to be separated for a reason.

He can read the Bible verse and we'll both do something. Hehehe. You can chant something from evil, and I'll read to people from my book, The Anti-Christ. We'll have fun either way.

The government isn't all that bad. At least, not until it throws us in jail for believing something different than the majority.

[pandamonium]

hi

I asked him if he will believe something that a rapper says without researching facts on his own. Simple as that. I will ask you the same thing. Kids these days are so gullible. They think so long as a person's a movie star/singer, they'll be the smartest thing alive. I was only worry that certain people will fall into that trap.

i know this youth is very influential ... thx to media and society

Instead of showing your hate, show people tolerance. That's the only way to convince anyone in that controversy.

thx...i will remember that next time...

Anyway, what is immoral about keeping your business alive? By exporting jobs we strengthen something called globalization. Google that, too, because I'm sure you're clueless again.

College degrees are must have these days if you want to be financially stable in an honest way.

I know how off-sourcing works and the whole thing with finding people that are willing for cheaper pay and making your businesses more productive ... etc... but what about the people who are given these jobs, these are the people who have college degrees and can do much more better than telemarketing... and the people who have their jobs taken away rely on this job... to them its the only thing they have to live but why do we have to take those jobs away .. im sure there is a better way to settle that... sry if that seemed a little too kind .. unlike you, some of us in the world have "hearts".

so dont lecture me about globalization cause i know you think you have a point in there somewhere.

for one who claims he reads everyone's posts

i never said or implied i read everyone's post... i dont kno where i said/implied that but im sorry you cant read that well.

By exporting jobs we strengthen something called globalization. Google that, too, because I'm sure you're clueless again.

Dont assume i dont kno all of this, im sorry i didnt take the same classes as you did in high school.we all dont have brains as big as yours to fit in that "big head".... it just makes you look very "ignorant" for that whole google thing. ohh yea everything in quotes, google it because i guess my vocabular is lower than yours since your so smart...

[LiLEthiopian]

yea...i'm super DUPER pissed that Bush got re-elected. I think even HE was shocked..lol..he looked really surprised..

It just doesn't seem to add up how he could have possible won..PERIOD..and I was listening to the radio this morning..and i heard that in a county in Ohio, with a pop. of 300, Bush won 4,000 votes...because they were using the electronic voting device.

[Spirited Away]

I know how off-sourcing works and the whole thing with finding people that are willing for cheaper pay and making your businesses more productive ... etc... but what about the people who are given these jobs, these are the people who have college degrees and can do much more better than telemarketing... and the people who have their jobs taken away rely on this job... to them its the only thing they have to live but why do we have to take those jobs away .. im sure there is a better way to settle that... sry if that seemed a little too kind .. some of us in the world have "hearts".

I don't think you understand the big picture or what off-shoring/outsourcing theoretically can bring... but anyway.

There were MANY business that were not successful in their endeavor with outsourcing. There was an article in Time magazine that explained how new businesses can benefit from it but others will be and have been hurt by it. Having a college degree doesn't mean much these days. You know that right? Don't expect to be paid more than $10 an hour if you just got your BA in Marketing without experience nor a good educational background to back you up.

Now then, one reason why some companies simply cannot work with outsourcing was because people with foreign education doesn't have the same education nor experience that people at home have. There were glitches that foreigners just cannot fix and had to be shipped back and forth. This process, of course, is costly itself, so many companies came home from abroad.

You don't need to worry about all jobs going out of the country.

Hearts? Haha, be an entrepreneur and we'll see how much heart you can give to your workers. How come you only think about this one-sidedly? You're taking away jobs but you're also giving away jobs. You're the one that's heartless. You have more chance in the United States to make money than in a third world country worker. Some of these companies are giving away jobs to people who needs it?

Once more, one of the MOST BASIC principles of economics is that there WILL BE WINNERS and LOSERS.

Of course, short term, there will be many losers. But I ask you again, what kind of jobs are being outsourced? Mostly, they're manufacturing jobs, which do not require a college degree. In the long term, young people will know that to live a financially stable life, they must pursue a higher education. And again, in theory, this motivates people to go to college or learn a trade in service sector.

Dont assume i dont kno all of this, im sorry i didnt take the same classes as you did in high school.we all dont have brains as big as yours to fit in that "big head".... it just makes you look very "ignorant" for that whole google thing. ohh yea everything in quotes, google it because i guess my vocabular is lower than yours since your so smart... 

You got it. Glad we're on the same page. But there is one little thing, if everyone who is smart has a big head, there are a lot of big heads in the world then, huh? I guess little heads like yours make you stupid then.

Matching wits is fun isnt' it?

[sadolakced acid]

computer programming jobs are being outsourced to india.

you don't need to know american society to know how to program.


"a company that will go to the ends of the earth for it's people will find it can hire them for about 1/10th the cost of americans. "


just a quote i like.


manufacturing jobs being outsourced usually go to countries with lower wages and no labor laws.

which means although it does give needed jobs to people, they don't get benifits, they don't get paid a lot, working conditions are bad, and sometimes child labor is used.

but, outsource long enough and these countries become industrialized, and it will cost the same tohave factorys there, and then add shipping costs.

so, the jobs are comming back to america. eventually.

[Spirited Away]

Yup... well, at least I partly agree anyway. Short term, plenty of losers. Long term, things brighten up.

The rainbow comes out after the storm sort of thing.

[pandamonium]

i get your whole point about off-sourcing and how business works. it would be great to be an entreprenuer one day.. to be rich and successful. and how caring about other people wont fit into that.. i have seen some of the episodes of the apprentice.lol

Matching wits is fun isnt' it?

ahaha. lol i kno. it was fun arguing with you and you won over that off-sourcing thing i guess kindness cant be used at all times... me arguing with you and stuff like that helped get some stress out lol. well i guess i will see you at another topic ??

[Spirited Away]

i get your whole point about off-sourcing and how business works. it would be great to be an entreprunuer one day.. to be rich and successful. and how caring about other people wont fit into that.. i have seen some of the episodes of the apprentice.lol

Not at all. Big companies do many good things for society.

Enron had the Enron Park... or whatever it's called and there are MANY businesses that lend their employees for volunteer works. The business world isn't as heartless as you claim it to be. There are many things involved, not just black and white, heart and heartless.

ahaha. lol i kno. it was fun arguing with you and you won over that off-sourcing thing i guess kindness cant be used at all times... me arguing with you and stuff like that helped get some stress out lol. well i guess i will see you at another topic ?? 

Sure will. I'm a regular here.

[azn_r4pf4n]

personally, if bush enacts a nation wide led school prayer ( where they read a bible verse over the intercom) ( and he said he would) i will presonally chant anti-christ things during it. like... hail bush! he is the supreme reincarnation of the great lucifer!

he would? what the????

[LiLEthiopian]

o yea..about out-sourcing..during the debates..Bush was saying something about...EDUCATION...

These people didn't just get up and start working over-night. This is their career he's taking away from them. I doubt they're gonna go get some education and everything would be a-o-k...

^^^thats the type of sh*t people should be worried about instead of just saying.."well, he has good morals"...my 5 year-old cousin has morals...I'm sure she's fit to become the President of the United States.

...and from all people, BUSH is trying to tell other people to get EDUCATION...too bad they didn't have the No Child Left Behind plan in his day.

[Spirited Away]

These people didn't just get up and start working over-night. This is their career he's taking away from them. I doubt they're gonna go get some education and everything would be a-o-k...

^^^thats the type of sh*t people should be worried about instead of just saying.."well, he has good morals"...my 5 year-old cousin has morals...I'm sure she's fit to become the President of the United States.

Career in what? Service or manufactoring? Why wouldn't getting an education make people okay? I happen to know MANY older people in my college classrooms. There's nothing wrong with going back to school to get atleast a GED or a two years degree in a trade.

College or no college degree, why American is called the land of opurtunity is because there are opurtunies to succeed either way. If there were no manufacturing jobs, which will never happen so don't worry your head about it, there will be others in the service sector.

If you're for a draft, then vote for Mrs Clinton. A generic answer, but no less true.

[LiLEthiopian]

Career in what? Why wouldn't getting an education make people okay? I happen to know MANY older people in my college classrooms. There's nothing wrong with going back to school to get atleast a GED or a two years degree in a trade.

College or no college degree, why American is called the land of opurtunity is because there are opurtunies to succeed either way. If there were no manufacturing jobs, which will never happen so don't worry your head about it, there will be others in the service sector.

If you're for a draft, then vote for Mrs Clinton. A generic answer, but no less true.

if they decide to go to school, good for them..especially if they can afford it.

and yea..this is the land of opportunities where u can succeed..but it's kinda hard when you get knocked off because ur job..is just given away....>.<

anyways..he got re-elected..atleast we know for sure he's gone in 2008

and I heard Arnold Schwarzenegger is working on changing the rule that says u have to born in the U.S. to be a Pres... ..good luck with that one.

[Spirited Away]

and yea..this is the land of opportunities where u can succeed..but it's kinda hard when you get knocked off because ur job..is just given away....>.<

So the all the immigrants who got here are homeless and jobless? Yea.

Try living in at least one third world country before you deny that America isn't the land of opportunities.

if they decide to go to school, good for them..especially if they can afford it.

Yea, financial aid is only for the rich kids, poor kids can't get a cent from it. Too bad.

If they make enough money so that they financial aid denies them from going to a four year university, there are such things as community colleges and trade school.

I also know people who work full time during the day and go to night school. They're hardworking and they will get something from it. Don't complain for people who won't even try to make things meet for themselves.

[Spirited Away]

i never said or implied i read everyone's post... i dont kno where i said/implied that but im sorry you cant read that well.

Sorry for double posting but, I forgot to address one more thing that you've said in another post:

I do understand her.. i read everyones posts... i ACTUALLY DO AGREE with that whole "hilary is not her husband, just because she is his wife doesnt mean they are the same

So yea, that's where I got it from, our hilary discussion. Too bad you think I can't read well enough. I don't ususally assume things out of the blue.

Kryo also made a snapshot of it, too. (Thanks by the way if you're reading this Kryo).

[pandamonium]

So yea, that's where I got it from, our hilary discussion. Too bad you think I can't read well enough. I don't ususally assume things out of the blue.

ohh wow .. that was from an old post that doesnt mean it goes the same for every other topic that i post in. i meant to say i read everyones post in the hilary topic.. there are a lot more in this topic to read .. i never stated that i read everyones post on this topic.


it would of helped if you pronounced reed like red in *I READ EVERONES POST*

[PinkTrash]

I wanted Kerry to win..

[Spirited Away]

Old post? You're the one who reminded me of it when you rightly accused me bugging on the 14 year old kid, remember? So, it's not really that old if you can refer to it, okay?

Oh, so what you say in other posts aren't suppose to count in this thread? But wait, didn't you just accused me of something I did in another thread?

So yea... How come it doesn't count when you do it, but you count it when I do it? Talk about meanies.

Yea, you also said I was immature. I guess this proves it ! Yay!

[pandamonium]

Old post? You're the one who reminded me of it when you rightly accused me bugging on the 14 year old kid, remember? So, it's not really that old if you can refer to it, okay?

Oh, so what you say in other posts aren't suppose to count in this thread? But wait, didn't you just accused me of something I did in another thread?

So yea...     How come it doesn't count when you do it, but you count it when I do it? Talk about meanies.

you *read* it wrong thats all that happened.. and what did i accuse you of in the last thread? and im definately not a meanie.. thats the last thing people would call me. im very nice excuse me lol.

[Spirited Away]

you *read* it wrong thats all that happened.. and what did i accuse you of in the last thread? and im definately not a meanie.. thats the last thing people would call me. im very nice excuse me lol.  

OMG!! You forget so easily it's begining to SKURED me.

HOW ARE YOU GUNNA STOMP ON A 14 year old for voicing his thoughts ... you must be really immature to do that? he probably doesnt like bush ... saying something about a song doesnt mean that you should look up all the facts before you listen to it... what dont tell me that you look up what the lyrics mean before you hear a song?? Let him say what he wants to say. i mean seriously he is just "STATING HIS OPINION" remember that ... you must of remembered from an old TOPIC...hmmmmmm maybe hilary clinton would help.

So first, you refered to hilary posts first, not me, so it just made you look bad when you said that it "was from an old post". Then you said that I can't read, which is why I brought up the fact that you said it yourself that you read everyone else's posts.

When you stated that what you've said in another post cannot be said for posts in this thread, you basically contradicted yourself since you're the one who made fun of me using info from an old post.

I hope we're clear on that now.

[pandamonium]

So first, you refered to hilary posts first, not me, so it just made you look bad when you said that it "was from an old post". Then you said that I can't read, which is why I brought up the fact that you said it yourself that you read everyone else's posts.

When you stated that what you've said in another post cannot be said for posts in this thread, you basically contradicted yourself since you're the one who made fun of me using info from an old post. 

I hope we're clear on that now.

ohh ok lol i just wanted to know hehe. sry.

[Spirited Away]

No need to be sorry, they'll be a lot of clashing heads in debate. I just happen to be nit picky about everything, as you can see.

[*kryogenix*]

personally, if bush enacts a nation wide led school prayer ( where they read a bible verse over the intercom) ( and he said he would) i will presonally chant anti-christ things during it. like... hail bush! he is the supreme reincarnation of the great lucifer!


god and government need to be separated for a reason.

didn't your mother ever tell you two wrongs don't make a right?

[Spirited Away]

My mother also told me to stand up for what I believe is right. I usually do it by way of rebelling.

[ComradeRed]

For what avail the plough or sail,
Or land or life, if freedom fail?

[sadolakced acid]

didn't your mother ever tell you two wrongs don't make a right?

two wrongs don't make a right, but one wrong doesn't make a right either.

however, three lefts make a right.

let yourself be heard, and your cause known.


i'd be doing the thing that' would get me suspended. upon which i'd sue, and my cause would be known.

like those kids in the vietnam era that wore the black armbands.
hmm... maybe we should do that... see if they suspend us...
if they did, they'd be idiots.