youth voting Options

[oridethewaveso]

Wow. Another thing that's a huge part of my life..
We do 'kids voting' stuff in school. And it's cool. But it means absoloutly nothing. If it meant something, I'd be a lot more willing to do it. Even if all of the votes meant nothing but a 5% of what it should. It could still make a differece.
I have a friend who's 13, and she's able to haev political debates with an 19 year old, and win. It's insane. Me and my mom have political convorsations, too, and they always work. Because I know my stuff, man.

Errm, and I didn't really read anyone's post, so mine probably doesn't follow the convorsation, but I need ed to say it. :D

[Edele]

Being a political science major I know a lot about our system and I kinda have to know about the canidates. Yet, I am unable to vote due to the fact that I am 17. I graduated high school early but I can't vote. That kinda sucks. But I do encourage young adults to vote. But also get informed. I'm glad the age limit is 18 due to the fact that before that I believe a lot of teens and earlier are too involved with their own lives, are just to busy or unconcerned. But I do know there are underagers (like myself) who are informed.

[DittotoAnne18]

i sort of wish i could vote.. i mean, who becomes president does affect me, so why cant i vote?

[iheartsimba]

that mtv thing actually bugs me a lot. people should only vote if they want to you know? nt be pressured into it. if voting is the 'right' thing...well why vote if you dont even know much about politics? its a waisted vote form somebody who first of all doesnt care who wins, and just pretty much picks someone. i dont think people should be so pressured about it...

plus they interupt my shows >.<

[*tweeak*]

you cant vote because many kids are ignorant, and there definitely has to be some restriction to the voting age. read the previous responces.

also, do you think its true that many kids would prefer to vote democratic because it seems cooler and more rebellious, even if theyre very politically well informed? and that republican views become clearer once youre older and pay taxes and such?

my mom said that to me when i told her about my politics discussion this afternoon, and how all my friends want kerry. i found that interesting, and there might actually be some truth in it, but i need to think it over more. what do you think?

[ComradeRed]

Well, if they are ignorant then thye wouldn't vote in the first place.

[*tweeak*]

Well, if they are ignorant then thye wouldn't vote in the first place.

not necessarily. whith the way celebs are promoting it, it may seem cool for some people, so theyll vote even though they have no clue why they want that person. adults do it all the time...

[ComradeRed]

Yo

[sammi rules you]

well i suppose it's to encourage those who are undecided to get involved and learn more.

[*tweeak*]

Yo

yes, exactly

[xj_liana_tx]

i agree with u.. mostly.. teenagers can't make the rite desicion, they follow their peers... i guess maybe ppl can choose some teenagers accordin to some requirements to vote..

[sikdragon]

Under the age of 18, you are not considered educated enough and are biased because you are still living under the support of another and tend to vote the way of the parent/gaurdian who is supporting you. 70% of teens who claim to be for or against a certain candidate do not know why. Some may think they do, but they dont.

[sammi rules you]

Under the age of 18, you are not considered educated enough and are biased because you are still living under the support of another and tend to vote the way of the parent/gaurdian who is supporting you. 70% of teens who claim to be for or against a certain candidate do not know why. Some may think they do, but they dont.

however, there are many that do. just because my mother's democratic is not why i'm pro-kerry. if i really thought bush was the better cantidate, i would be all for him. however, there's several reasons i don't which i'm not going to type all out here since i have in many other places. i pay attention to politics and i'm educated in them. why should i not be able to vote? if younger people could vote, the president could be different. believe it or not, but there are a lot of young people that are educated in political issues. (not all, but a lot)

[sikdragon]

It doesnt matter. According to the government you are not a full citizen, until you are eighteen, therefore you have no rights. The reason you can't vote is because they can't create a double standard among youth. The process of explaining why has no bearing on their knowledge of your ability to make a well-infomred decision. Being under the roof of another makes your opinion biased. You only hear the case of one candidate.

Note: This is not always true, but enough so that the government has made it law.

[*tweeak*]

It doesnt matter. According to the government you are not a full citizen, until you are eighteen, therefore you have no rights. The reason you can't vote is because they can't create a double standard among youth. The process of explaining why has no bearing on their knowledge of your ability to make a well-infomred decision. Being under the roof of another makes your opinion biased. You only hear the case of one candidate.

Note: This is not always true, but enough so that the government has made it law.

yes, for example my entire family is staunchly bush, but im for kerry. but it doesnt matter, because i cant vote. which is not necessarily bad, many kids dont think individually, but generalizations should not be so frequently made. it may be law, but there are many laws that should not necassarily be intact. and while the voting age is not one of them, you should not be able to use the excuse that its a law

[sammi rules you]

^ why'd it quote him and say my name?

It doesnt matter. According to the government you are not a full citizen, until you are eighteen, therefore you have no rights. The reason you can't vote is because they can't create a double standard among youth. The process of explaining why has no bearing on their knowledge of your ability to make a well-infomred decision. Being under the roof of another makes your opinion biased. You only hear the case of one candidate. 

Note: This is not always true, but enough so that the government has made it law.

most 18 year olds are still under their parent's roofs. (rooves?..roofs?..i dunno. whichever. you get the point.)

[sikdragon]

doesnt matter. We do not need more uneducated voters.

[sammi rules you]

doesnt matter. We do not need more uneducated voters.

that's why i'm saying they should only allow some younger voters because a lot of them ARE educated.

[sikdragon]

That is a double standard.

[*tweeak*]

^ why'd it quote him and say my name?


most 18 year olds are still under their parent's roofs. (rooves?..roofs?..i dunno. whichever. you get the point.)

whoops, i changed my mind of who i was quoting but forgot to change the name bit

youre completely right on the other bit. my mom is 46 and she still votes for who her father votes for

doesnt matter. We do not need more uneducated voters.

have you not read what others have said? its not a matter of wanting them to lower the voting age, but of them encouraging uneducated voters. because thats exactly what theyre doing, in having celebs support voting but not give any actual evidence of why they support a particular canidate. while that would still be propoganda, it would be propoganda with something behind it

[*wind&fire*]

i deinitely think some kids should be able to vote- the well informed ones

how can you discriminate a "well informed" child... the people that inform the child could be bias... i think that age discrimination is adequate... giving you the amount of experince in life to make an intelligent decision....

[sammi rules you]

how can you discriminate a "well informed" child... the people that inform the child could be bias... i think that age discrimination is adequate... giving you the amount of experince in life to make an intelligent decision....

the people who inform some 18 year olds could also be biased. most seniors in my school are taking government..the gov teacher is strongly for kerry. some of my friends in that class are influenced by that. so, saying young people's information could be biased isn't a reason to not let them vote. anyone's information can be,

[*wind&fire*]

^^ yet by the time they are 18 they have the intelligence to know what is best rather mindlessly following others...

[*tweeak*]

^and they wouldnt at other ages? i know better not to follow others at 15 than my mom does at 46. she still votes for whoever her dad votes for. age does not have that much to do with it. while yes, age may effect opinions and there definitely must be an age limit to voting, you cannot assume that by 18 people can make their own decisions, when in reality that has little to do with it. i dont necessarily think they shold lower the voting age, but if they were going to, i think a test on general plotical knowlage should be taken to register

[oridethewaveso]

I just wrote a really good post.

And then I realized that above my post, someone had said the same thing.

I think a political test should be given, too. :D