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[MeanBastard]

Do nice guys really finish last? YES. There are certain forces that a guy must observe such as a girl’s Friend Zone. If a girl sees nothing more but a friendship that guy belongs in her Friend Zone. Many guys become trapped in the Zone before they realize it. What makes this zone so dangerous? The potential to leave the Friend Zone is almost nil for most guys. Unlike guys, girls have the ability to distinguish their friends of the opposite sex from guys that they want to receive affection from. A good rule of thumb to remember is that once you are in the Friend Zone you will never be in the Potential Relationship Zone no matter what you do, 99.9% of a guy’s attempt to promote themselves will be futile. Unless you are one of the privileged few that that belong in the Potential Relationship Zone girls will typically never look at you as anything more then just a friend. Although nice guys will eventually find someone, normally they are one of the last ones to finish. Many girls bypass nice guys during the first ten years or so because they rather have someone who was less traditional. What attracts girls to non-nice guys is sometimes their uniqueness. Unique guys stand out more and thus receive more attention from people around them, it is a simple fact. There are a lot of nice guys out there but very few of them have the necessary elements to have girls find their personality attractive. There are many disadvantages for a nice guy in terms of relationship seeking. However, many of those qualities will also attract many friends which is sometimes more important then finding that “one” girl immediately.

[FUNKosaurus]

haha, you're funny. i guess its true, i have crushes on some of my guy friends. can you be.. friends with benefits? and who WOULDNT want a nice guy? only a moron would like mean guys, no matter how 'unique' they might be.

sorry i answered you question with more questions..
stay cool

[LittleLulu]

it all seems so true..

but wud it be weird ...if i... i sorta like every guy in one way or another.. its jus some i like way more than others...n the many guys that i onli like 0.000000000000000000000000000001%....r the guys that are in my"friend zone"...but im jus sayin....i like every guy a lil...n depending on their actions... they often increase....

[*RiC3xBoy*]

i read the article once, but im glad u used unique instead of jackass

[nyCzxfOx]

wow............................... O_O..

eh what?

that is very O_O.. wow

[Oreo_bro]

i agree and dont agree.

nice guys actually finish first in lots of things, like..staying alive past 30 :P

why do i say that? well first u need to clarify what a "bad boy" is. Is he the guy that likes to mistalk during class? or do drugs and vandalize? To me, a bad boy is the kinda of guy that does drugs and lives on the line. Now..if a guy is into drugs and all that stuff big time..yeah not much chance of them living past..what, 30? either the drugs will kill them or a drug dealer will.

I know lots of girls who, after being heart broken multiple times, will finnally relize what a friend they have in a guy and start to like him more then just a friend, some times without the guy trying. They say that your soulmate (aka wife/husband gf/bf) are your best friends..emphizis on friends

[< Random >]

i agree and dont agree.

nice guys actually finish first in lots of things, like..staying alive past 30 :P

why do i say that? well first u need to clarify what a "bad boy" is. Is he the guy that likes to mistalk during class? or do drugs and vandalize? To me, a bad boy is the kinda of guy that does drugs and lives on the line. Now..if a guy is into drugs and all that stuff big time..yeah not much chance of them living past..what, 30? either the drugs will kill them or a drug dealer will.

I know lots of girls who, after being heart broken multiple times, will finnally relize what a friend they have in a guy and start to like him more then just a friend, some times without the guy trying. They say that your soulmate (aka wife/husband gf/bf) are your best friends..emphizis on friends

I know people who are classified as 'bad guys' who stay alive past 30...

And about the girls that have been heartbroken... That just shows you that nice guys do finish last as the girls end up with them AFTER going out with a bunch of bad guys... So there you go... Point is proven...

[eboarder2020]

Sometimes i hate being such a nice guy... Cuz all my friends are like "OMG RJ you such a nice guy, why cant all guys be like you?" and im just sitting there thinking "Oh god when will i ever get a chance with this girl"... SOmeguys say the right things, do the right moves, and treat a girl better then anyone else could. But nice guys always finish last... WHich brings me to something i saw in here a while ago about nice guys finishing last... HEre it is:

NICE GUYS FINISH LAST
By: Garrett Hols

It’s amazing that assholes can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it’s not that amazing. They are assholes at heart, but to meet girls they lavish their undying love. IT’S A CHARADE. They act nice, friendly, and they listen… until they get into what they’re after. Their prey thinks they are in love with them, however when they realize what assholes their predators really are, they pretend like the a-hole is really nice inside. The girl tries to change the a-hole into a nice guy, but assholes will always be assholes. She gets upset and goes to the nice guy to complain about the a-hole. But she claims to love the a-hole… now this is where the theory begins. She doesn’t want to look like she is easy so she wont dump the a-hole right away, instead she will stay with the a-hole. Girls are idiots. They don’t realize that the nice guy has been there all along. He never had to pretend to be a good guy to get girls because he is naturally like that. However, girls don’t see it for some reason or another. They look at the nice guy as a friend, a trusted companion to whom they can tell their sad story to about their a-hole boyfriend. But the nice guy isn’t THAT naïve. He was trying to score with the girl he listens to all along. The problem is that since he is a nice guy he keeps listening. Since girls get attached to things that pay attention to them, they think of the nice guy as a friend. A FRIEND. They don’t say, “Oh he’s hot” or “I want to have his children” about the nice guy, they just want the emotional support. When they get the emotional support from the nice guy, they don’t need it from the a-hole. The nice guy gets the shit end of the stick while the a-hole gets all the action. I am starting to wonder if being a nice guy is really the route to take to get action… I have been down this path for all of my post-pubescent life and it has gotten me NOWHERE… at least not in the women department. Perhaps another reason why girls fall for the a-hole is because assholes ignore the girl they are with. The women wonder, “Why isn’t he paying attention to me?” so they explore why. They poke and prod and get closer to the a-hole. They start to get easier with each attempt to get closer. The a-hole finally says, “I’ve let this beauty dangle long enough, time to boat this bass”. It is then he puts on his charade and the girl feels like she has won him… even thought all she has won is an a-hole. Once you have gone down the path as a nice guy or a “listener” you can’t turn back. The girl will always go after the assholes because there are always nice guys there to listen. Once you realize that you are a “listener” you cant do anything about it… just pack up and close shop. There is no way you will get into her pants… ever. There is and never will be a situation where the nice guy will get the girl he has a crush on. It just doesn’t work like that. The girl wont “come to her senses” and realize what an a-hole her boyfriend is like in the movies… instead she will just go after another a-hole, and unless you stop being a nice guy, she will never go after you. Women complain that there are no nice guys in the world. Right. They are obviously not looking hard enough because there are nice guys EVERYWHERE!!!! Girls aren’t looking for nice guys… they say they are but they’re not. They are looking for the perfect a-hole, but there is NO SUCH THING as the perfect a-hole. All in all, the nice guy gets the shaft. To all the girls out there with boyfriends that don’t treat you with respect, that don’t listen to you, and that don’t care about you I say this; look next to you. The guy that has been standing next to you the whole time is the guy you have been looking for. He is what you want your a-hole to be like. He knows more about you than you know about yourself… because he has listened to it all.

[Oreo_bro]

I know people who are classified as 'bad guys' who stay alive past 30...

And about the girls that have been heartbroken... That just shows you that nice guys do finish last as the girls end up with them AFTER going out with a bunch of bad guys... So there you go... Point is proven...

ah i said nice guys dont always finish last..i never said they always finished first.

What is better, to take your time and find the girl for you that will stay with u and be there for u and later become your wife? or some girl thats gonna dump u the next day, or is a one night stand, or you treat like shiet/she treats u like shiet, or u guys end up breaking up after a few weeks.

You see..just because a guy takes his time, or just cause a girl finnally see's the bf potential in a good friend..doesnt mean his finished last. In fact, if there relationship grows and they get married some day, and the "bad guy" just hops from relationship to realtionship, then i would say the bad guy finished last.

So again..my point stands, nice guys dont always finish last, from a certain point of view.

[NgocQuyen]

hmph....im comfused....so nice guys finish last?and a*holes always win? err...good thing im not in nothing yet....haha...ill keep that in mind i guess?if that's even true...err...ok im still lost..

[Too Asian To DIE]

umm.... i got a bit confused but i think i kinda got it

[DrEaMgUy2K1]

th5418 u never seem to stop amusing me.

I agree with you on some points and disagree on some points. Yes its true that being in the friend zone is dangerous. And likely the average guy will get stuck in it and never get out.

I know what u guys think when u get urselfs into this situation... "Heh ill be her friend and get real close , and then ill ask her out" Well guys, pulling out the Friends Card is a good idea, but usually always back fires, due to what th5418 said.

But there are a few tricks u can do to get your ass out of that state . Which i am no gonna say because frankly, i dont want to spoil u guys ;] . Ok Maybe just one.......Pulling the Hard To get card... Your thinking ... Wait isnt that only for someone to use if the other person likes them? Yes. this is true. But u can use it to divert their attention to whatever to you because they start to notice u start actin odd and are gonna care about u enough to give u more attention, but u pull away making them want to help u more. And they will realize they miss ur company, and w/e u 2 shared...so they want u. Get it? uGhZ its hard to explain, and the time to ask the girl or guy ... is really hard to tell, thats why u shouldnt really use this cuz the girl just mite just give up on u if ur timing is off...

Anyways The main idea of this topic is to warn guys about being in the friends zone. So heres my tip of the day.

If you really like a girl , and u want to date her. Dont act like u want to be all buddy buddy with her, cuz ur being fake, if she catches on you will never get a chance. a good idea is flirt with her often, but still be serious and friendly at others so u dont seem to forward. Playing the friends and Hard to get card is almost as dangerous as being in the friends zone ~_~ so if ur a newb dont try! haha...newb.

[MeanBastard]

But there are a few tricks u can do to get your ass out of that state . Which i am no gonna say because frankly, i dont want to spoil u guys ;] . Ok Maybe just one.......Pulling the Hard To get card... Your thinking ... Wait isnt that only for someone to use if the other person likes them? Yes. this is true. But u can use it to divert their attention to whatever to you because they start to notice u start actin odd and are gonna care about u enough to give u more attention, but u pull away making them want to help u more. And they will realize they miss ur company, and w/e u 2 shared...so they want u. Get it? uGhZ its hard to explain, and the time to ask the girl or guy ... is really hard to tell, thats why u shouldnt really use this cuz the girl just mite just give up on u if ur timing is off...

Sad thing is, most girls don't put that much time and effort if you play your game that way.

If you really like a girl , and u want to date her. Dont act like u want to be all buddy buddy with her, cuz ur being fake, if she catches on you will never get a chance.  a good idea is flirt with her often, but still be serious and friendly at others so u dont seem to forward.  Playing the friends and Hard to get card is almost as dangerous as being in the friends zone ~_~ so if ur a newb dont try! haha...newb.

Yeah, but usually when you venture into the friend zone, you start liking them after you conslidate them. You usually don't like they right away. After some period of time of them comming to you for help and advice and someone to talk to, the feelings start building. Then, that's when you realize you are screwed.

[DrEaMgUy2K1]

Yeah, but usually when you venture into the friend zone, you start liking them after you conslidate them. You usually don't like they right away. After some period of time of them comming to you for help and advice and someone to talk to, the feelings start building. Then, that's when you realize you are screwed

yea but i was talking about if u just met the person, not like u have been friends with the girl for a while.... [ dont want to argue is tired ]

[hi-C]

Well, the same is true for girls. I'm stuck in this "friend" zone, too. A lot of guys see me as, "Oh you're so effing cool to talk to." It's annoying but you learn to get used to it...

[sweetdreamsx3]

eboarder2020. LMAO You got it off that geocities site!

[conster]

i got nothing to say cuz altho ima girl.. i totally agree with th5418, and i regret for rejecting them =\ lol