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 Oct 5 2004, 09:05 PM
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You guys are dumb.  Group: Member Posts: 1,252 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 25,094  |
Who will win? Does beauty have a chance against the beast? Will Dr. Evil bend the Ken doll over and use him like the bitch he is?
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Oct 5 2004, 09:07 PM
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 and they say imitation is flattering Group: Member Posts: 1,337 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,269 |
I think the "beast" will probably win. But who knows.. maybe under all that boyishness Edwards is actually tough.
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| *kryogenix* |
Oct 5 2004, 09:16 PM
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Cheney is winning and will win.
edit: uh oh, edwards used kerry's name |
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Oct 5 2004, 09:30 PM
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 The Return of Sathington Willoughby. Group: Member Posts: 313 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,724 |
i thought cheney would win because he's an evil f**king genius and everyone knows he's a total dick, but edwards did very well. he brought up really lousy things about cheney's record that cheney didn't bother to defend, and that was pretty damaging.
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Oct 5 2004, 09:33 PM
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 LunchboxXx Group: Member Posts: 1,789 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,810 |
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 5 2004, 9:16 PM) edit: uh oh, edwards used kerry's name he did that alot. what does it mean? crackaz ain't talkin about the draft! atleast not while i'm listening. time for the final statements... |
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| *kryogenix* |
Oct 5 2004, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Oct 5 2004, 9:33 PM) he did that alot. what does it mean? crackaz ain't talkin about the draft! atleast not while i'm listening. time for the final statements... it shows his incompetence. he couldn't follow a simple debate rule. |
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Oct 5 2004, 09:45 PM
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The Return of Sathington Willoughby. Group: Member Posts: 313 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,724 |
incompetent? thats a little harsh isn't it?
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Oct 6 2004, 05:35 AM
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QUOTE(strice @ Oct 5 2004, 9:45 PM) incompetent? thats a little harsh isn't it? i guess it is, but still, why should edwards be exempt from following the rules? |
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Oct 6 2004, 03:29 PM
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 Wow it's been a long time!! Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
undecided voters voted on who won the debate and they thought edwards did. that's a good thing :). Cause he did. haha i like edwards, his smile reminds me of tom cruise. he seems really friendly, and cheney's just like.
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Oct 6 2004, 04:08 PM
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 Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
They debated SITTING DOWN... that instantly destroys any credibility they could've gained from the debate. It's like Ted Turner Debate ... no one takes it seriously because you sit down. But the again, Cheney would probably have a heart attack after 90 minutes of standing up.
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Oct 6 2004, 04:10 PM
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 Don't wake ghostie. Group: Official Member Posts: 3,546 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 2,405 |
Edwards is pretty experienced (not compared to Cheney though,) I think he knew what he was doing when he said Kerry's name. That was a stupid rule anyway, but I think he knew.
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Oct 6 2004, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(Retrogressive @ Oct 6 2004, 4:10 PM) Edwards is pretty experienced (not compared to Cheney though,) I think he knew what he was doing when he said Kerry's name. That was a stupid rule anyway, but I think he knew. not only that, but he interrupted cheney during cheney's turn. QUOTE undecided voters voted on who won the debate and they thought edwards did. that's a good thing :). Cause he did. haha i like edwards, his smile reminds me of tom cruise. he seems really friendly, and cheney's just like. stubborn.gif blah i'm fat and mean raar and stupid. CBS poll. think about that. |
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Oct 6 2004, 05:21 PM
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Wow it's been a long time!! Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
so what, it was still a poll. anyways it wasn't really like anyone was dominating, they were proving each other wrong and it was a matter of credibility. HOWEVER, we know now it is a FACT that cheney has met edwards before. we also know that cheney is a dumbass for giving out the link for an anti-bush website instead of a halliburton website. we also know that bush HAD stated that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq and that suddam hussein had something to do with september 11th, both which were proven wrong but cheney claimed bush never stated either of those. so yeahhh
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Oct 6 2004, 05:53 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
WMD is 'knowledge' given to Bush but several entities, domestic and foreign; he didn't just say there were WMD in Iraq out of the blue.
If anyone wants to question credibitly of Bush's supposed false statement, then one should question intelligent agencies instead. Kerry and Edwards were/are lawyers first, and politicians second. They may debate well enough in front of a jury, but they don't really have a firm grasp of their stance. Thus Kerry is known for changing his mind about everything and Edwards gave out old data/old information during the debate. |
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Oct 6 2004, 06:02 PM
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You guys are dumb. Group: Member Posts: 1,252 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 25,094 |
I don't think it was a wise move to actually say, "We have to kill the terorrists we find"
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Oct 6 2004, 06:04 PM
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Wow it's been a long time!! Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
why is it so wrong that kerry changes his mind? unless you are indirectly trying to accuse kerry of just catering his views on his own personal political gain, you can't say someone changing their mind is a bad thing. And if you are trying to say his views are based on what will work out best for him politically, you have no evidence to back that up. perhaps he's just changing his mind because he thinks over what he's supporting. as for the old data/information, at least it's correct.
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Oct 6 2004, 06:21 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
If you and I change our minds about certain things in life, that's just fine. However, at the national level, many things are at stake: security, economy... etc.
It is very misleading for Kerry to change his mind because many people will be promised one thing but will get another. Sorta like that. For example, he can promise to pull our troops out of Iraq, but then change his mind about it later when it suits him. Lets see, he changed his mind about gun control, Iraq invasion (every congressional leader/Senate knew exactly what they were voting affirmative for), etc.... I just hope Kerry changes his mind about wanting this presidency. As for data, lets say that I knew that it rained yesterday and you ask me if it's going to rain today so you can bring an umbrella to school. I answer that "well, it rained yesterday(or even a week ago)..." (an old data) How is that going to help you decide? |
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Oct 6 2004, 06:34 PM
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The Return of Sathington Willoughby. Group: Member Posts: 313 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,724 |
i don't think the flip flop attacks are really very effective, atleast to people that i know. for myself i'd rather have a cowardly, indecisive president than one i know for sure will use the constitution to discriminate, kill people, steal money, move money into religious organizations, drill in "protected" areas, and refuse to sign treaties that promote WMD safety.
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Oct 6 2004, 06:38 PM
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 Newbie Group: Member Posts: 1 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 53,906 |
ok, one thing people NEED to understand is that Kerry so called "changing his mind" isn't so simple. There are details about situations that can be released later and there are certain facts that someone may agree with and others they may not agree with. This doesn't mean he's "going the way the wind blows" or any other moronic Republican crap.
Also, did you know the reason Kerry didn't support funding for the war completey? Maybe because $27,000,000 of the 87,000,000 was going to.. dum dum dum.. HALLIBURTON! Isn't it just a coincidence that Dick Cheney, our good old Vice President basically runs the joint?! This is the kind of crap that isn't neccessary to fight this so called "terrorism" in Iraq. Pffhh.. I'll stop now before I explode!! 
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Oct 6 2004, 06:56 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
HAHAHA, I'll just make things simple and comment on one thing.
He didn't fund the war "completely" but he voted FOR it. Doesn't it tell you SOMETHING. Anything at all? 
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Oct 6 2004, 09:43 PM
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Don't wake ghostie. Group: Official Member Posts: 3,546 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 2,405 |
You're right!! I would rather have a dumbass texas daddy's boy who will not think things through and will risk the youth of America's lives without reconsidering. Instead of someone who is willing to think things through and try to correct his mistakes. Instead I want someone who will not recognize a mistake and try to fix it, who is so certain about everything.
Uninspiredfae your signature does say: "The road for certainty is the road for insanity." |
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Oct 6 2004, 10:02 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
Well, in the lounge I did say that I rather have Nader (ComradeRed convinced me that both choices suck).
Anywho, so you rather your president changes his mind to his liking than to what the country needs? Lets see how you define risking "the youth of America", then we'll talk again. As for my signature, being uncertain doesn't mean swaying my mind to the direction of any wind (or rather, changing my mind so that more people will vote for me), but it does mean that we all should leave room for possibilies. Note: possibility doesn't necessarily mean "changing", capeche? Interpretation is a wonderful thing in religion, politics, and literature, no? |
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Oct 6 2004, 10:58 PM
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Wow it's been a long time!! Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Oct 6 2004, 6:56 PM) HAHAHA, I'll just make things simple and comment on one thing. He didn't fund the war "completely" but he voted FOR it. Doesn't it tell you SOMETHING. Anything at all? actually to correct you, kerry didn't "VOTE FOR THE WAR" as it is popularly believed. he voted for the president to have the right to chose to go to war if he thought it was neccessary. so ultimatly, kerry and the rest of the senate put the decision up to bush. he didnt vote for it, he wasn't like oh i support this war in iraq lets burn those motherf**kers cause we're the big bad U.S.A etc. etc. |
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Oct 6 2004, 11:03 PM
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Bush won.
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Oct 6 2004, 11:54 PM
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Wow it's been a long time!! Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
uh...? yah i think you're in the wrong thread, the debate was between edwards and cheney.
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