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 Sep 26 2004, 12:52 PM
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 Bardic Nation  Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059  |
Some religions acknowledge Jesus Christ's existence, although they do not accept him as God. They say he is a good man, a man who was a great teacher. but wait... IF he isn't God then he was either a liar or was senile(he wasn't). No one can deny Jesus was a great and well remembered as human. There is no way he could just be a good man. Why?
1. He claimed to be God. 2. Millions have died as martyrs in his name. 3. Wars have been fought in his name. 4. He would be a major hypocrite. 5. His power would have to be demonic in origin. There are only two choices when it comes to Jesus. Accept or reject. Think about it, if God were to come to Earth there would be a few things we would expect. 1. An unnatural entrance. 2. Supernatural powers. 3. Speaks the greatest words ever said. 4. Exist without evil works. Jesus was born of a virgin. He performed miracles showing his power over death, disease, physics, and he created matter. His words are recorded and are remembered two thousand years after his death. The records of his life show that no one could find fault with him, without distortion. |
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Sep 26 2004, 12:54 PM
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Where's the "Jesus was both divine and human" option??!?!??!?!?
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Sep 26 2004, 01:07 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
he can't be both so there is no option.
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Sep 26 2004, 01:59 PM
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 Carried away Group: Member Posts: 356 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,462 |
QUOTE(gerundio @ Sep 26 2004, 12:54 PM) Where's the "Jesus was both divine and human" option??!?!??!?!? As much as I hate to do so, I'm going to have to agree with him. Jesus was both divine and human. Divine because he was te son of God, and human because he came down to earth and had the power to become human. |
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Sep 26 2004, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 26 2004, 1:07 PM) he can't be both so there is no option. Says who? QUOTE As much as I hate to do so, I'm going to have to agree with him. Thanks. F.ck you too. |
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Sep 26 2004, 03:33 PM
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Jesus is both, God and Man (or used to be man). God sent Him here to Earth so He could spread the word of God and to save us from sin.
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Sep 26 2004, 11:39 PM
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Stalking Createblog... Group: Member Posts: 155 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,300 |
Yeah, to me Jesus is 100% Man and 100% God. He had to have diaper training, and he was able to perform miracles.
Ugh. Pretty confusing. |
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Sep 27 2004, 05:32 AM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
No im saying he can either be God incarnate or an evil man. He cannot be a good man.
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Sep 27 2004, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 27 2004, 5:32 AM) No im saying he can either be God incarnate or an evil man. He cannot be a good man. How can he not be human? LOL. He was born, breathed, lived in a human body, and then died. |
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Sep 27 2004, 07:16 PM
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 ohBrian Group: Member Posts: 556 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 44,625 |
hes GOD yo!
well we really dont have evidence that after 3 days he rose up from the dead... and then went to heaven.. or put the ripped ears back together.. but this is just my beliefs that has been passed to us generation by generation. |
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Sep 27 2004, 07:55 PM
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sorry. give evidence of your point. don't poll please.
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Sep 28 2004, 06:01 AM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
he was a man, im saying he cannot be a GOOD man. read please.
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Sep 28 2004, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Sep 26 2004, 3:19 PM) Thanks. Fúck you too. Want my phone number and address so we can set up a date? Vada ottengono una vita, scatto. QUOTE(sikdragon) he was a man, im saying he cannot be a GOOD man. read please. Why not? If he is divine then he has the power to become a human and be a good one at that. |
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Sep 28 2004, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Sep 28 2004, 3:01 PM) Why not? If he is divine then he has the power to become a human and be a good one at that. It means, that for the people who do not believe that he is God, he must be a bad person. Because if you don't believe he is the Son of God, he has commited many sins. So the only logical choices would be to accept his existence as the Son of God, or completely deny his existence. edit: personally, i accept that he is the Son of God. |
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Sep 28 2004, 03:44 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
Thank-you someone finally understands... I thought i was clear before
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Sep 28 2004, 03:45 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
He could be the the Son of God and human.
If the Son of God was a human of great virtue, that proves that humans can a acquire such virtue by following Jesus's words. Therefore, it would make sense to read the Bible. But, eh, that's all I'm gonna say on this topic because I don't know much about Jesus except that He is what Christians claim to be the Son of God. |
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Sep 28 2004, 03:48 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
You don't get it. If he is not God he cannot be a GOOD man, he can still be human.
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Sep 28 2004, 03:54 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 28 2004, 3:48 PM) You don't get it. If he is not God he cannot be a GOOD man, he can still be human. Okay, I'll take your word for it and I'll take Angel's word for it, too... I mean I DID say that I didn't know about these things, did I not? You both make sense to me (if I believe in God). |
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Sep 28 2004, 04:30 PM
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I don't believe in God or anything like that....
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Sep 28 2004, 04:36 PM
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SOS Brigade!! Group: Member Posts: 2,573 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 47,775 |
the thing about that is that He was the Son of God.. he was more of a messenger and a teacher... so tahts what i believe
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Sep 28 2004, 04:38 PM
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Bardic Nation Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 38,059 |
Jesus said he was God on several occasions. So either he is God or he is a liar.
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Sep 28 2004, 04:40 PM
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SOS Brigade!! Group: Member Posts: 2,573 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 47,775 |
Really he said that? I don't recall that but he was the Son thats what I'm sure of and he was his representative no?
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Sep 28 2004, 04:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 664 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,686 |
QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 28 2004, 1:38 PM) Jesus said he was God on several occasions. So either he is God or he is a liar. liar. |
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Sep 28 2004, 04:41 PM
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SOS Brigade!! Group: Member Posts: 2,573 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 47,775 |
QUOTE(Mr. Psychotic @ Sep 28 2004, 1:40 PM) liar. You can say he's a liar... it actually depends on the person who either believes in him or not. In your case you don't believe... I say its not a debate I say its ones opinion |
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Sep 29 2004, 11:54 AM
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 wishing for SIMPLE LOVE with Jay Group: Member Posts: 708 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,601 |
Jesus was basically fully man and fully God. He is God because he is the son of God and desended on earth to die for everyone's sins knowing fully that he will not be accepted by all his people. He was fully man because he experienced all the happiness and pain of humankind. He felt everything a human can possibly feel except that he was SINLESS and pure. He was even tempted in the desert by the devil 3 times, so he was fully man on earth. Without being man first himself, he would not come to fully understand us. He became man because he loves us unconditional and wanted to die for our sins.
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