Questions to Christians... Options

[sikdragon]

In some entries it looks like i am threatening people with hell. I am not i am just stating facts out of my book. If i didnt care i just wouldnt say anything at all. It really hurts me to see so many rejection God so fully when he loves you so much.

[sikdragon]

lol no we are talking about if someone will go to heaven if they believe in some things of other religions. Not timelines.

[Spirited Away]

Ah, okay okay, I was only making a point to clear up misunderstandings. Some kids may read that and think that other religions copied some of those fundamentals.

[gigiopolis]

Like I haven't checked it out? If I didn't check it out I wouldn't have these kinds of feelings.

My dad and my brother are both Christians. My mom and I aren't. You think I haven't checked it out?

At least my dad and brother don't advertise Christianity to my mom and me every 5 minutes, you know. Of course we've thought about it, of course we know a lot about it, we just don't want to. And you think I'm ignorant? There's a fine line between "ignorant" and "independent".

I'm sorry if I'm getting the wrong idea across here, that I'm some sort of Christian hater, but I'm not.

[sikdragon]

you may have given christianity a chance, but i dont think you have given God a chance? try talking to him.

[gigiopolis]

Likewise. I thought that when I said "Christianity" it covered everything related to that religion...so yes, I have given God a chance. I honestly didn't see it the way my father/brother did, and I figured it out long before that's it not right for me.

[sikdragon]

not right for you?? are you just afraid to trust anyone but yourself?

[Spirited Away]

Yea, I'm sure the Jews asked God to help them plenty of times while digging their own graves, and I'm even more positive that plenty of people pray ardently for world peace.

Trusting your own strength and those of your fellow man usually yield more substantial results.

When you ask God for help, you'd have to wait in a long line to get a miracle...

Okay... I'm not picking a fight... I'm just saying that there is NOTHING wrong with trusting yourself.

[gigiopolis]

Well, no, I can trust people, and I'm pretty sure I could trust God (I mean, if He exists and all), but it's just that I don't agree with a lot of the stuff religions in general preach.

And what's wrong with believing and trusting yourself? Sometimes the best judgment comes from the bottom of your heart, and not from someone telling you about it.

[sikdragon]

Where do you think your conscience and those little things from the bottom of your heart come from? Quit putting God in the same boat as organized religion. The church has been corrupt since the beginning of civilization. The spanish inquisition, the salem witch trials, and the KKK who claimed to be working for God.

Yea, I'm sure the Jews asked God to help them plenty of times while digging their own graves, and I'm even more positive that plenty of people pray ardently for world peace.

Trusting your own strength and those of your fellow man usually yield more substantial results.

When you ask God for help, you'd have to wait in a long line to get a miracle...

Okay... I'm not picking a fight... I'm just saying that there is NOTHING wrong with trusting yourself.

If you read the bible you would understand. There cannot be world peace. The world is corrupt and will continue to be that way until the war comes and Jesus bruises the head of lucifer and casts him back to hell.

There is something wrong with trusting yourself. You are imperfect, as am i, the only.... THE ONLY remedy is that which is perfect. GOD.
Humans are by nature evil and as such without God there would be nothing but hate and agony in this world.

[scleex88]

you talk of God on this thread.
then about fighting another kid in another thread.

[sikdragon]

is fighting another kid wrong? how does it contradict my message of God in your opinion?

[scleex88]

fighting another kid is not wrong?
beating and fighting is right?
how does that relate to your view with God?
believers of God turn to violence?
of course it contradicts. think about it
God believers fight to answer problems?
..? i dont get how fighting and God goes together.

[sikdragon]

Read the old testament.

[scleex88]

ok, so the old testament tells you
you can beat up kids when youre angry?
tell me what part of old testament says that, please.

[sikdragon]

tell me when i said to beat up kids when you're angry? Fighting can be fun, it's when everyone is so scared to hit that they try and kill each other is when it becomes a problem.

[scleex88]

fighting can be fun..

[gigiopolis]

Excuse me, it's like you're saying everyone who isn't Christian will go out and kill everyone or something.

I know PLENTY of people who are completely and utterly Atheist but wouldn't even think about killing someone. In fact, if the whole world was run by Atheists I think it would run just the same way.

I'm not Christian, but I have a lot of the same morals that religion preaches. I won't go out and kick someone's ass just because I don't have the guidance of something "perfect."

Christianity isn't an organized religion? Helloooo? Did you even TRY to listen in eighth grade Socials class? There was something called the Crusades. You know. The thing where people ran out of their homes and killed thousands of Muslims just for the sake of going to heaven? False morals, my friend, false morals.

As far as I'm concerned, if everyone on this planet were Christian, there still would be no world peace. Just like I said before, if we were all Atheists there still wouldn't be world peace, but certainly no World War III.

So what if you're not perfect? You learn from your mistakes. I haven't been guided by God and I'm still perfectly moral and humane. But not "perfect." There's nothing wrong with being "imperfect."

I would appreciate it if you would be more respectful of other people's beliefs, and not insult them in that way you do.

[Spirited Away]

Where do you think your conscience and those little things from the bottom of your heart come from? Quit putting God in the same boat as organized religion. The church has been corrupt since the beginning of civilization. The spanish inquisition, the salem witch trials, and the KKK who claimed to be working for God.

And they're not? Who's to say they're not? You? Do you speak to God for them? Or does God tells you others' secrets?

If you read the bible you would understand. There cannot be world peace. The world is corrupt and will continue to be that way until the war comes and Jesus bruises the head of lucifer and casts him back to hell.

On the contrary, I don't need to read the Bible to understand. In fact, I understand quite well. The world is corrupt because individuals want to be happy, and happiness means different things to different people. God can cast Evil back in its place, but will send good people along with it. How kind of Him.

There is something wrong with trusting yourself. You are imperfect, as am i, the only.... THE ONLY remedy is that which is perfect. GOD.
Humans are by nature evil and as such without God there would be nothing but hate and agony in this world

So babies, by nature, are evil. They can kill me with their drools, I suppose.

There is hate and agony with or without God, and the same is said about peace and happiness. This can be easily decided by individuals and how they choose to live life. Imperfections aren't to be fixed, neccessarily. We should be wary of them and try to better ourselves, but this can be done by mere human will. If you think God can provide emotional support, that's fine, but humans can do just fine.

[nas]

Fighting can be fun

Like whoa it's fire and brimstone for you boy. What did the bible preach? Something about turning the other cheek? Why didn't Jesus fight back again? Why did Jesus warn the other deciples not to fight back?

Hush maaan. You're giving religion a bad name like any other hypocrite that doesn't practice what they preach.

[espionage]

I don't give a care what anyone else said above this post that can contradict what I'm going to say;


but Christianity is not about morals. Thank you byebye.

It doesn't mean you go around fighting and hurting.

[raw_material]

On the contrary, I don't need to read the Bible to understand. In fact, I understand quite well. The world is corrupt because individuals want to be happy, and happiness means different things to different people. God can cast Evil back in its place, but will send good people along with it. How kind of Him.

you dont need 2 read the bible 2 understand..and who named you the g for genius...4get church i guess il just ask u kid....yea the world is corrupt...pshh if it wasnt messed up then it wouldt be the same...sin is fun but theres hell in the end...teh devils out 2 make us fall kid....how does god send good pple back to evils place? boy u can be the nicest person in the world that dont mean ur going 2 heaven and ur better with god lol...trust me son u havent lived until you lived with the mindset that heaven lives take time and think on these things...

[Spirited Away]

you dont need 2 read the bible 2 understand..and who named you the g for genius...4get church i guess il just ask u kid....yea the world is corrupt...pshh if it wasnt messed up then it wouldt be the same...sin is fun but theres hell in the end...teh devils out 2 make us fall kid....how does god send good pple back to evils place? boy u can be the nicest person in the world that dont mean ur going 2 heaven and ur better with god lol...trust me son  u havent lived until you lived with the mindset that heaven lives take time and think on these things...

Are you.... calling me....... a kid and your son? . Uh, are you God now or something? Do you now how old I am?

I have no idea what you mean by: "who named you the g for genius". I may be a "kid" *snickers*, but at least I know how to make sense.

So here's my response to what I can understand from what you said:

You asked how does God send good people back to evil's place even though I already answered it... I think, that you need to read carefully before trying to answer to anything I say from now on to make sure you don't embarrass yourself.

My answer to how God sends good people to Hell is that He sends non-believers to Hell even though there are non-believers who holds more good than any Christian. Good people are those that help man kind to improve their morals and life style rather than force others to believe in something they do not want to. And yet, because they do not believe in God, they have to go to Hell. You can call that justice all you want, just like Hitler thought it was okay to condemn other men, I will call it a thing that rewards belief... which is no reward at all.

This is the last time I will repeat the answer to you, my dear. Try to read the words carefully. Ce n'est pas difficile.

[raw_material]

Are you.... calling me....... a kid and your son? . Uh, are you God now or something? Do you now how old I am?

I have no idea what you mean by: "who named you the g for genius". I may be a "kid" *snickers*, but at least I know how to make sense.

So here's my response to what I can understand from what you said:

You asked how does God send good people back to evil's place even though I already answered it... I think, that you need to read carefully before trying to answer to anything I say from now on to make sure you don't embarrass yourself.

My answer to how God sends good people to Hell is that He sends non-believers to Hell even though there are non-believers who holds more good than any Christian. Good people are those that help man kind to improve their morals and life style rather than force others to believe in something they do not want to. And yet, because they do not believe in God, they have to go to Hell. You can call that justice all you want, just like Hitler thought it was okay to condemn other men, I will call it a thing that rewards belief... which is no reward at all.

This is the last time I will repeat the answer to you, my dear. Try to read the words carefully. Ce n'est pas difficile.

lol 1st of all i have to apologize and say sorry for the kid and son sorry i was not calling you that i wasnt trying 2 disrespect you or nothing down here where i live thats how we talk we call each other kid and son ..u kno like slangs so i felt like i was talking to my friends so my bad 4 the miss understanding the last thing i wanna do is catch beef or drama lol

god doesnt send non believers 2 hell they send themselves...the bible says each person in this hole world will hear the gospel atleast once in there lives..its up 2 us 2 believer or not...i mean come on how hard cant it be to give it a try...if we give it a try god will show u the way...again im sorry for the kid and son missunderstanding!

[raw_material]

Ce n'est pas difficile.

y eso que significa? algo de difficil oh que!

[Spirited Away]

lol 1st of all i have to apologize and say sorry for the kid and son sorry i was not calling you that i wasnt trying 2 disrespect you or nothing down here where i live thats how we talk we call each other kid and son ..u kno like slangs so i felt like i was talking to my friends so my bad 4 the miss understanding the last thing i wanna do is catch beef or drama lol

Down here? How down can you be? I'm in Houston TX, you wouldn't be any more in the South than I already am. I wouldn't use those words if I knew the person I'm conversing with is older than I.

god doesnt send non believers 2 hell they send themselves...the bible says each person in this hole world will hear the gospel atleast once in there lives..its up 2 us 2 believer or not...i mean come on how hard cant it be to give it a try...if we give it a try god will show u the way...again im sorry for the kid and son missunderstanding!

Oh yes, people would send themselves to Hell, like they have the power to do that . I would send myself to Heaven, too, if it were a choice and if I believed in it. But for some dog-gone reason, it's not in one's hands to be in Heaven or Hell, it's God's.

How can you say that non-believers send themselves to Hell? I don't get that logic.

y eso que significa? algo de difficil oh que!

J'ai su que vous comprendriez. Tres bon! Et "FYI", je sais un peu Espagnol.