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post Sep 11 2004, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(Frankie_08 @ Sep 11 2004, 10:39 PM)
i think that eminem is a pretty good rapper, for a white guy that is! laugh.gif

Yeah, Em's cool.

NOBODY QUOTE ME! I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RAP/HIP HOP AND I HAVE MY OWN OPINON

I'm confused with all of this...LOL. so once again, don't quote me. I'm not a big rap person. Can't touch that wink.gif
 
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post Sep 11 2004, 10:57 PM
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almost everybody sucks. Kanye west, Jay-z, and Eminem are like the best out there. Their songs actually have some kind of meaninngs.
 
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post Sep 11 2004, 11:01 PM
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there is no such thing as a good rapper
 
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post Sep 11 2004, 11:52 PM
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....!!!!EMINEM of course!!!!!.....my all time fav rapper.....then i'd have to say Tupac.....then kanye
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE(patrick004 @ Sep 11 2004, 5:48 PM)
C'mon people, I've said this before, why comment in a thread when you don't like  or care about what the topic's about?


The way Eminem was rapping during his Infinite days was similar to Nas's Illmatic days, which is wyy some people claimed that Eminem was biting Nas and also Jay-Z on Reasonable Doubt. Just some info.


Now I'm listening to a bunch of Immortal Technique tracks. He's also an awesome MC.



PEN, I've heard good remarks about Vakill. Do you have on any suggestions to what songs I should hear from him?

VAKILL IS SICK!!!!!!!!!!

he said some line (not word for word) like: "Put F.U.N. on my d*ck for f*ck you ni99as / then I'ma go poke fun at ya b*tch!"

LMAO

Sickplicity is that song he says that in... peep the two songs he did with Juice cuz he ripped the sh*t outta 'em... Urban Legends and Out the Speakers... those three songs are classics... Fallen with Slug is another classic... A BRILLIANTLY told story-telling song with a twist at the end.... Vakill's one of the dopest PERIOD... one of the best punchline spitters but he's versatile, unlike most punch guys

that shiss hilarious!!!!! and Em's style is nothing like Nas's in my opinion... it was more like AZ flow/delivery with Kool G Rap/Rakim/his own style

on Infinite, Em's syllable rhyming is as good as it can get... Nas's syllable rhyming ain't that dope... it's actually almost nonexistent


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holy sh*t you are retarded. if you need some refreshing nas called em a corporate sl*t on hot 97. so shut the f*ck up. and to quote another member


this is nas's exact quote on hot 97


ill even send you a link if you still think im lying.
i dunno maybe im a d/rider but at least im not a complete hater.

and also nas listed nas and jay as two rappers that he idolizes back on 2002. ill try to find a link for you aswell

and you really stupid if you think nas hasnt made a song better then "lonely people".


Fair statement. But name one song like that before that song dropped.

as for vakill, listen to Til the World Blows Up that songs pretty hot or get his album the darkest cloud.



well when was this!?!? and retard, do you not remember God's Son?!?!?! Em produced The Cross or whatever song it was... actually was wack... but regardless, and search google.com... Em and Nas were at the Detroit Hip Hop Summit in 2003... that would make Nas a hypocrite... and I ain't a hater... you're a dickrider... I don't hate, I have reasons to prove why he's overrated... all he's really supposedly great at is story telling and visual rhyming but anyone rhyming 1 syllable rhymes can do that... basic ass lyricist... SO YOU NEED TA SHUT THE F*CK UP cuz you ain't know sh*t ABOUT MCing/LYRICISM/bein' a dope rapper

Nas hasn't EVER MADE A SONG AS DOPE AS LONELY PEOPLE... Talib sh*t's on 'em... that's not the only song... the song about Love on reflection Eternal shits on anything Nas has EVER MADE AS WELL....
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 06:17 AM
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DELETE THIS POST PLEASE... I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DELETE POSTS HERE
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 08:08 AM
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Thank guys, I'll check those songs out.
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(Topheavy @ Sep 11 2004, 6:37 PM)
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Not everyone is as stupid and gittish as you think they are. Stop being ignorant.


this is nas's exact quote on hot 97

ohmy.gif Reeally? I totally didn't know that. I don't listen to Nas much, because I'm not a huge huge rap fan. I'm more of an everything fan. But Eminem 's still the best in MY, I repeat] MYY opinion.
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 09:49 AM
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i think no rappers are good at all because i dislike rap
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 11:27 AM
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I don't listen to a lot of radio rap now a days, cause they always talk about the same stuff (smokin weed, f**en women, shootin guns, ect). Z-ro, k-rino and Scarface are my all time favorites, but if I had to choose from one of them I would say Z-ro the crooked.
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Sep 12 2004, 6:17 AM)
DELETE THIS POST PLEASE... I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DELETE POSTS HERE

why the f*ck am i arguing with someone that has lloydbanks playing in their xanga. somebody lock this post please.
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(Topheavy @ Sep 12 2004, 3:00 PM)
why the f*ck am i arguing with someone that has llyodbanks playing in their xanga.

LMAO. Seriously...
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(Topheavy @ Sep 12 2004, 2:00 PM)
why the f*ck am i arguing with someone that has lloydbanks playing in their xanga. somebody lock this post please.

hey, the beat for the Banks track is dope as f*ck... I don't even feel Banks anymore, I used to before 50 dropped his album cuz he used to drop dope verses but not no more... he fell off hard since 50 dropped his album: guess he lost his hunger.....

and do you see who else is in my xanga? ummm, Dilated Peoples... of course someone that ain't into real hip hop would have a Dilated Peoples song on their Xanga....

and what, would you like me to put in???? Thief's Theme... NAH, not happenin' kid cuz that song and video's wack... the beat's dope as hell but he was SO off point in the song...

NAS:
Yo I'm hot like 95 Fahrenheit
On a summer night, tight spot where bodies rot
Rats drink from water drops, in the streets niggaz
Little kids scared cops, wit red dots
Philosophical gangsta, wit violent priors
Goin back like black and white TV's wit pliers
Leanin on broke down cars, wit flat tires
Flash iron, anybody tryin on, the blocks I'm supplyin on
Madicon, my peeps, tie ballons up
And swallow 'em and the P now got goons, lots of 'em
Cops see them and run, don't want no drama
Certain parts of the streets, the beast don't want a part of
Martyr, hood haunted like the Dakota
Where John Lennon was shot up, but he sang for peace
He begged for freedom, hanged wit wild Jamicians
From Kingston, who drink Irish Malts
Listenin to Peter Winston, Machintosh
Lightning hits the top of the church steeple
When I'm writin, semi-automatic no hyphen
It's frightening.... {*scratches*}


why you talkin' about John Lennon being shot up and lightning hitting the top of a church steeple in a song about Thieves? c'mon now... seriously, 'n you talkin' 'bout MC's lackin' skills... you really don't know sh*t...

c'mon, kid... get smart

you can't refute sh*t I say so you try to throw that at me? c'mon now... why don't you actually come with intelligent arguments instead of tryn' find a way outta a argument you ain't winnin'.... dummy, you lost
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 06:48 PM
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i think some ppl r takin this a little too seriously, relax ppl and respect other ppls opinions _smile.gif
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 07:24 PM
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hey, the beat for the Banks track is dope as f*ck... I don't even feel Banks anymore, I used to before 50 dropped his album cuz he used to drop dope verses but not no more... he fell off hard since 50 dropped his album:  guess he lost his hunger.....

and do you see who else is in my xanga?  ummm, Dilated Peoples... of course someone that ain't into real hip hop would have a Dilated Peoples song on their Xanga....

and what, would you like me to put in???? Thief's Theme... NAH, not happenin' kid cuz that song and video's wack... the beat's dope as hell but he was SO off point in the song...

NAS:
Yo I'm hot like 95 Fahrenheit
On a summer night, tight spot where bodies rot
Rats drink from water drops, in the streets niggaz
Little kids scared cops, wit red dots
Philosophical gangsta, wit violent priors
Goin back like black and white TV's wit pliers
Leanin on broke down cars, wit flat tires
Flash iron, anybody tryin on, the blocks I'm supplyin on
Madicon, my peeps, tie ballons up
And swallow 'em and the P now got goons, lots of 'em
Cops see them and run, don't want no drama
Certain parts of the streets, the beast don't want a part of
Martyr, hood haunted like the Dakota
Where John Lennon was shot up, but he sang for peace
He begged for freedom, hanged wit wild Jamicians
From Kingston, who drink Irish Malts
Listenin to Peter Winston, Machintosh
Lightning hits the top of the church steeple
When I'm writin, semi-automatic no hyphen
It's frightening.... {*scratches*}


why you talkin' about John Lennon being shot up and lightning hitting the top of a church steeple in a song about Thieves?  c'mon now... seriously, 'n you talkin' 'bout MC's lackin' skills... you really don't know sh*t...

c'mon, kid... get smart

you can't refute sh*t I say so you try to throw that at me?  c'mon now... why don't you actually come with intelligent arguments instead of tryn' find a way outta a argument you ain't winnin'.... dummy, you lost

it aint abvout theives, its about how everybody does things for their own selfish reasons. and guess what- the beautiful struggle got the same score as streets disciple in VIBE and XXL. not that that means anything but im just saying you dont gotta hate so much.

hmm and thief's theme not a great video? i guess lloyd bank's "Im so Fly" is a better video. Yep. Let's see...there's money, women, and cars. great video.

anyways, somebody lock this post
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 08:21 PM
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twista , kanye west
 
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post Sep 13 2004, 06:41 AM
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QUOTE(Topheavy @ Sep 12 2004, 7:24 PM)
it aint abvout theives, its about how everybody does things for their own selfish reasons. and guess what- the beautiful struggle got the same score as streets disciple in VIBE and XXL. not that that means anything but im just saying you dont gotta hate so much.

hmm and thief's theme not a great video? i guess lloyd bank's "Im so Fly" is a better video. Yep. Let's see...there's money, women, and cars. great video.

anyways, somebody lock this post

I know... such as gold diggers... and pimps and everyone else in this world... the video portrayed that well but the lyrics didn't... and Vibe and XXL's ratings don't mean sh*t to me... Talib Kweli is straight up a better lyricist than Nas... it ain't even close

and Thief's Theme's video woulda been dope if the lyrics portrayed what the video was... it wasn't... Nas talks about miscellaneous stuff in a song about thieves (not literally but technically, it is about thieves)

and the I'm So Fly had a MUCH doper beat and I liked the video... once again, lines like "cooler than the other side of the pillow" were wack... Banks needs to step his game up like he did before 50's album dropped... honestly, I'd rather listen to Banks mixtape sh*t BEFORE 50's album than 80% of what Nas has dropped since Illmatic and It Was Written....

and I'm sure you'd love to listen to songs like Oochie Wally more right??? here's a reminder of some of his lyrics in that song....

"Yo we got chicks in the living room
Getting it on and they leaving till 6 in the morning
Always for oochie
Oh you ain't know
How many hoes in the bankroll
Sort of like like the game show
Who wants to be a millionaire
But my name ain't Regis
Nas the one they call
When they want there thing beat up
Honeys' with bodies
With Bravehearts guns in the party
Waves, braids, and boldly,
Trademarks to army
Is that Horse it must be
I heard he husky
Yeah, there go jungle eyes red
Looking for trouble
And that's Nas dancing with dimes
But who's his manage
The imperial thug
Is cold deep grand wiz
We taking honeys' to the crib tonite
Grantee we going up in there rib tonite
Check the new slang
It's changed the braveheart gang bang
When you see me pass
Holla oochie bang bang"

I hope you had fun reading those pitiful lyrics
 
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post Sep 13 2004, 08:47 AM
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Why are you posting up some of Nas' worst lyrics? Nas is still a great lyricist and rapper nonetheless. How about posting some of his better lyrics from Illmatic?

And puhleeze! You shouldn't even compare Lloyd Banks to Nas...
 
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post Sep 13 2004, 04:20 PM
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OK, let's stop this argument.


Nelly is the best rapper of all time and it should be everyone's favorite MC. C'mon now, who didn't like Flap Your Wings? Shake Your Tailfeather?

Class dismissed.
 
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post Sep 13 2004, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(SystemDamaged @ Sep 8 2004, 6:24 PM)
Slim Shady shifty.gif /Eminem cool.gif /Marshall huh.gif

hahaha, i agree with you.
 
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post Sep 13 2004, 07:10 PM
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I know... such as gold diggers... and pimps and everyone else in this world... the video portrayed that well but the lyrics didn't...  and Vibe and XXL's ratings don't mean sh*t to me... Talib Kweli is straight up a better lyricist than Nas... it ain't even close

and Thief's Theme's video woulda been dope if the lyrics portrayed what the video was... it wasn't... Nas talks about miscellaneous stuff in a song about thieves (not literally but technically, it is about thieves)

and the I'm So Fly had a MUCH doper beat and I liked the video... once again, lines like "cooler than the other side of the pillow" were wack... Banks needs to step his game up like he did before 50's album dropped... honestly, I'd rather listen to Banks mixtape sh*t BEFORE 50's album than 80% of what Nas has dropped since Illmatic and It Was Written....

and I'm sure you'd love to listen to songs like Oochie Wally more right???  here's a reminder of some of his lyrics in that song....

"Yo we got chicks in the living room
Getting it on and they leaving till 6 in the morning
Always for oochie
Oh you ain't know
How many hoes in the bankroll
Sort of like like the game show
Who wants to be a millionaire
But my name ain't Regis
Nas the one they call
When they want there thing beat up
Honeys' with bodies
With Bravehearts guns in the party
Waves, braids, and boldly,
Trademarks to army
Is that Horse it must be
I heard he husky
Yeah, there go jungle eyes red
Looking for trouble
And that's Nas dancing with dimes
But who's his manage
The imperial thug
Is cold deep grand wiz
We taking honeys' to the crib tonite
Grantee we going up in there rib tonite
Check the new slang
It's changed the braveheart gang bang
When you see me pass
Holla oochie bang bang"

I hope you had fun reading those pitiful lyrics

i aint arguiing, oohchie wally was a WACK song, like jay said, even the bodyguard's verse was better then Nas verse. i can admit that. i never said talib wasnt a great artist, matter fact he in my top 5

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I'd rather listen to Banks mixtape sh*t BEFORE 50's album than 80% of what Nas has dropped since Illmatic and It Was Written....

while im willing to admit that banks was semi-hot before 50 took over, if you realyl believe that statement, you are stupid as hell. stillmatic was a hot album and gods son was pretty hot aswell. this ain't even an argument, this is common sense. and you are the biggest hater slash em d/rider

tell me one mic and ether weren't hot.
 
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post Sep 14 2004, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(Topheavy @ Sep 13 2004, 7:10 PM)
i aint arguiing, oohchie wally was a WACK song, like jay said, even the bodyguard's verse was better then Nas verse. i can admit that. i never said talib wasnt a great artist, matter fact he in my top 5


while im willing to admit that banks was semi-hot before 50 took over, if you realyl believe that statement, you are stupid as hell. stillmatic was a hot album and gods son was pretty hot aswell. this ain't even an argument, this is common sense. and you are the biggest hater slash em d/rider

tell me one mic and ether weren't hot.

FIRST, lemme school you...

Banks was more than semi-hot before 50's album... Banks was one of the MC's prone to takeover hip hop at the time... he was one of the highest prospects at the time and was all over the mixtape scene... he won mixtape artist of the year at the mixtape awards the same year 50 was killing the mixtapes (this was before Get Rich or Die Trying came out)

Stillmatic wasn't that dope... a handful of hot songs and the rest were wack... and I'm not a Em d*ckrider, you're just a Nas d*ckrider and if I say anyone was doper than Nas, you'd say I was on their nuts...

God's Son was garbage.... his lyrics are average at best... some of his beats are dope, I ain't gon' front

ONCE IN A WHILE, he'll come with a semi-dope verse

Ether wasn't even as good of a diss track as people turn it into... it was full of fillers... Hov ripped du' in Takeover and Blueprint 2 (the song)... if Hov hadn't put out Super Ugly, it woulda been THAT MUCH MORE EVIDENT that he murdered Nas... everybody compared Super Ugly to Ether but Takeover was 100x better than Ether... it was all factuals compared to Nas's assumptions and attempts at bein' funny... (I admit, a few lines were funny though)... anyway, Hov broke down Nas's entire career perfectly... and at the time, I wasn't even feelin' Hov because he had fell off hard after Volume 1/2 so I wasn't favoring either... Hov brought his career back to life after Blueprint (great album)... Blueprint 2 was sick as hell as well (ESPECIALLY MEET THE PARENTS) and Black Album was a classic IMO...

anyway, back to the point... Nas had too many fillers in Ether... I hope you know what a filler is... anyway...

Nas ain't half the lyricist Em is... honestly, Banks has the lyrical stuff down better than Nas too but he's not a better artist because he doesn't have the skill to make a great album/song (not that Nas has since It Was Written)... Banks syllable rhyming and rhyme schemes are more developed than Nas's... his story telling lacks to Nas but it's harder to tell a story with more syllable rhyming (which Nas doesn't do well - he's trash at it), his punchlines/metaphors are better (back in the day - not now), Nas wins in the concepts... anyway, regardless, I rather listen to Banks spittin:

I got a intergangstress who argue and steams wit reefer
And who flip when I call a b*tch like she Queen Latifah
Not all the vehicle's is long enough to stash the streetsweeper
This sh*t can get uglier than the Master P sneaker
We slidin through the ruckus, wit prada on the chuckus
Soon as spring break ho's home from college wanna f*ck us
I ain't here to drop knowledge on you suckas
I'll sick rottweiler's on you fuckas, cops followin to cuff us
Top dollars to discuss this, whole lotta zeros
When it comes to paper I blow a soul outta aero
I'ma break before I lay floor berry
Besides, every rapper ain't a star, nigga plad ain't bulbary
You can't tame Lloyd, smokin by the big screen
You changin the channel looks like I'm playin the game boy
I know to watch botherin ya vision
You reach and I'll put a dot on ya head like its part of yo religion
Why party wit a pigeon?
I'm blowin a 10 cuz Bush handin flyers for a party in a prison
I'm in the gucci vest wit the green and red straps
I'm the last rapper to scare niggas since Craig Mack
Now every morning's a fast start
And there aint problem gettin dressed cuz my closet got more aisles than pathmark
Run, move startin a wave
and leave wit 12 shells in ya mouth like a carton of eggs
I'm the young pimp pardon my age
I don't got long hair but if I did she be partin' my braids
Niggas find what club they at
take 'em wit us, and run a train on 'em like a subway mac
get advances from grey acura
see these record labels got most artists gettin f**ked like the gay rappa'
i go the college on the tour
I'm goin down in history nigga, next to Wallace and Shakur
I keep ya ammo clean, text polished in the drawer
Camera's by the hamper that mine into the floor
by now, you probably heard of me
fresh outta surgery, flashy as a f*ck, you gon' have to murder me
Burglary, I'm leavin wit cha nike's bergendy, White T, bergendy
you match now, back down
niggas love to hate you, but love you when you disappear
catch me on the boat wit weed smoke and fishing gear
heavy when I toke, C notes from different years
Besly in the robe, re-motes for liftin chairs
You ain't rich, but we glad to snatch ya
I send cars to crib like I'm a cab dispatcha
you better off wit ya stupid guys, lookin for a coupe to drive
you ain't gettin nuttin but ya french fries supersized
it's a damn shame y'all still local
I'm in a million dollar studio layin my vocals

than anything Nas has spit in the last 5 years

oh, that's also at the girl that said:

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Why are you posting up some of Nas' worst lyrics? Nas is still a great lyricist and rapper nonetheless. How about posting some of his better lyrics from Illmatic?

And puhleeze! You shouldn't even compare Lloyd Banks to Nas...


puhleeze!!! Nas ain't a great lyricist... you keep claiming that but you don't even know the components of what makes a great lyricist... you would never EVER understand.... and Nas doesn't have better lyrics... LMAO... *sike*

but as I said, I rather listen to anything by Banks before Get Rich or Die Trying over anything by Nas SINCE IT WAS WRITTEN which is past Illmatic time... and honestly, lyrically, ALL THE LYRICAL ELEMENTS, Nas was average-to-good then... he was just claimed so masterful then because at the time, it was somethin' new and at the time, lyrically, it was dope... but his style is basic as hell compared to certain guys of today...

ONCE AGAIN.... COPYWRITE, CROOKED I, VAKILL, PHAROAHE MONCH, TALIB KWELI, MOS DEF, RAKIM, COMMON, KOOL G RAP, BIG PUN, BIG L, EMINEM, ROYCE DA 5'9, EYEDEA, IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE, AND EVEN HOV ALL sh*t ON NAS.... ONCE AGAIN, GET SMART AND THEN COME TO ME............

YA'LL SERIOUSLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT MAKES A DOPE MC AS IN THE LYRICAL STANDARDS... YOU JUST THINK IF WHAT HE SAYS IS DOPE THEN HE'S DOPE... ONCE AGAIN, AS FOR REALISM, NAS AIN'T EVEN REAL.... HE GOT COMPLETELY EXPOSED IN THE LAST 4 YEARS....

AND THERE'S EVEN MORE MC'S I COULD NAME THAT ARE DOPER BUT THAT'S IT FOR NOW.... FOR THE IGNORANT PEOPLE THAT SWEAR THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A GOOD MC, YA'LL ARE TRULY RETARDED... LEARN SOMETHIN' ABOUT LYRICISM AND THEN COME BACK TO ME....

PayCe ~1~

OH, LAST THING... FOR TOPHEAVY...

you really wanna pop sh*t about Lloyd Banks and you have Kanye West on that Milkshake beat on your Xanga!?!?! LMAO... anyway, Banks is a MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better lyricist than Kanye West...

Kanye ain't bad though, I actually like 'em a lot more as an artist than Banks cuz he actually talks about relevant issues and is my favorite producer (I'ma work wit 'em one day - watch!) ... anyway, once again, you tryn' diss Banks and have Kanye on that sh*t!?!?! I could even understand if it was one of Kanye's dope tracks but that sh*t is literally ASS!!! LMAO

anyway, iss all love
 
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look ether was partially untrue, but the majority is truth. look.

on the song december 4th he mentions a cat named dehaven,as the cat who put him in the drug game

well the truth is ,dehaven did more than that for Jay,he also took a bullet for Jay an did a bid for Jay,Dehaven was a live thug cat who was getting money out of town an he put hove on........hove went into the game without all that nickle a dimeing bullsh1,he went straight to making real money in the game.

Hove used to always have a pen and a pad an he would write about everything he saw in the projects .he used to get clowned cause when he an his boys used to go to the store hove would always buy a pen a pad.he was always writing.Its a joke about he never writes stuff down.

Jay was huge fan of nas an would always talk about this ill cat from Queens bridge(nas).Jay was a battle mc to the fullest,everything you think canibus an supernat are.Jay is the same way.....all he would do is battle cats in the early 90s but he did not feel he was ready for nas during the early 90s but he was sure BIG was ready for nas.Yall ever notice how JZ an LL have never done a song together or tour together.Remeber when bis was like from ice t to kool moe D to jay Z.........well Jay was in a talent show an the judges were DMC an LL..Jay lost but was clearly the nicest..so he an his crew were heated,later on LL came out an was like yo you real ill I can get you signed to defjam but jay man was like f--- that you aint vote for my man in the contest so f--- you an then Jay was like yo I know im nice so fukk you,then him an ll got into an argument..mind you Jay had no music out during this period so ll was like that is why you aint never gone blow.Its seems LL an Jay have never forgotten that episode.

like for instance ether was all true except for Jay age,Jaz o told nas all that info.remeber when nas said hanging with little chase,well chase is a short cat from marcy who Jay used to follow around back in the days.
Jaz O told alot of dirt on hov that nas did not even use but you notice how nas mentioned Jaz names 4 seperate times in the song?.

read it.
 
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post Sep 14 2004, 07:21 PM
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and when the f*ck did i ever say nas was the GOAT? i said you sleeping on him and he deserves to be recognized as ONE OF THE GOATS. i dont belive in a GOAT.

the artists you listed-
COPYWRITE, CROOKED I, VAKILL, PHAROAHE MONCH, TALIB KWELI, MOS DEF, RAKIM, COMMON, KOOL G RAP, BIG PUN, BIG L, EMINEM, ROYCE DA 5'9, EYEDEA, IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE,

when the f*ck did i say that they werent nice? add pac and big and nas in there and you got yourself a f*cking top 20 in rap. anyways yeah its all love
 
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post Sep 14 2004, 08:01 PM
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Nas and Pac nor Big deserve to be in a list of MC's like that... those MC's would all sh*t on all three.....

Big and Pac are the two most overrated rappers of all time... Nas is up there in the top 5... Nas ain't even close to one of the GOAT's

yes, one GREAT album and one really good one... then trash from that point on.... Big and Pac are two of the most influential ever but they ain't the greatest ever or even close to it... had none of the lyrical sh*t down....

HERE WE GO... lemme break down Ether:

Brace yourself for the main event
Y'all impatiently waitin
It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?
Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big - ALL FILLERS
Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy
I embrace y'all with napalm
Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone
How could Nas be garbage?
Semi-autos at your cartilege why the f*ck is he talkin' about shootin' up Roc-a-fella artist when he knows he ain't no thug... fake sh*t... more fillers
Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne
I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas dope dope line, unless you know anything 'bout God/Jesus then wouldn't understand but that's dope
With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music

I've been f**ked over, left for dead, dissed and fogotten
Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten
Y'all just piss on me, sh*t on me, spit on my grave (uh)
Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face
Y'all some well wishin (bitches), friendly actin envy hidin snakes
With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take?
When these streets keep callin, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef that sh*t was so lazy and childish... c'mon Nas, that's the best you can do???????
Started cockin up my weapon, slowly loadin up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
This for dolo and his manuscript just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called "Blueprint" that's stupid as well... lame diss cuz you know how many people have albums with the same name or very similar???
First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
d*ck suckin lips, whyn't you let the late, great veteran live Hov never even said he's better than Big... he said: "IF I'M NOT DOPER THAN BIG, I'M THE CLOSEST ONE...." that's the line he's talkin' about.... that's just sayin' he's second best (he ain't though)


Y'all niggas deal with emotions like bitches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches [b]dope... liked that sh*t f'real f'real

My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watchin his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is harsh, hug me, don't reject me dope
or make records to disrespect me, blatant or indirectly
In '88 you was gettin chased through your buildin
Callin my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was gave you a style for you to run with that was lazy... he acts like Hov wasn't rappin' before he heard of Nas... and also, another thing, even if he did, that's like sayin' Nas bit Rakim cuz his style was similar, to a level, as his
Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearin Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a p*ssy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate classage was wrong and the last several bars were fillers.... and Hov ain't even in a Karate class... he wasn't tryna diss Hov, he was playin' a immature namecalling game... it's lazy and it's fillers
You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the sh*t you need to learn though
That ether, that sh*t that make your soul burn slowmore lazy lines
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffymore lazy sh*t
Rockefeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after? that was dope
Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas I honestly can't believe he was attemptin' to use this as wordplay... that's LAAAAAMMMMMMEEEE...
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you gettin girls now 'cause of your looks?dope
Ne-gro please
You no mustache havin, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wackretarded
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Jaz to hangin with Kane, to Irv, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own sh*tthat hit hard
You a d*ck-ridin faggot, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons
Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
Shaun Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz d*ck
So little shorty's gettin gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gon' come out your fat lips?aright...
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop sh*t, apologize, nigga, just ask Kiss

it's a overrated diss track... everyone tryn' compare it to a great diss track... it honestly ain't... it's too many fillers... Hov murdered 'em.... peep his two disses that are doper than anything Nas said in the entire beef:

I know you missin all the - FAAAAAAAME!
But along with celebrity comes bout seventy shots to your frame
Nigga; you a - LAAAAAAAME! lazy but it was funny... i had to laugh the first time I heard it
Youse the fag model for Karl Kani/Esco ads
Went from, Nasty Nas to Esco's trash
Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage
Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours DAMN!!!! those bars hit hard as f*ck
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole f**kin song
but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shineLMAO
That's why your - LAAAAAAAME! - career come to a end
There's only so long fake thugs can pretend
Nigga; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your lifeDAMN... all factuals... see the difference between him 'n Nas... 'n he completely played Nas because even Nas knows this is true... he was never a thug/gangsta or sold crack or nuttin'; though he tried to portray that image early in his career
I showed you your first tec on tour with Large Professor
(Me, that's who!) Then I heard your album bout your tec on the dresserLMAO... perfectly setup and hard hittin' as f*ck again
So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot songmore of the sickness
And you ain't get a coin nigga you was gettin f**ked and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years nigga? I can divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them shits was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year averageIT WAS OVER AT THIS POINT... SO SO SO SO SOOOO SICK.... BROKE DOWN HIS ENTIRE CAREER... I WAS LIKE "HOLY sh*t!"
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME! Nigga switch up your flow
Your sh*t is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?
(Get the f*ck outta here) You niggaz gon' learn to respect the king
Don't be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
Because you know who (who) did you know what (what)
with you know who (yeah) but just keep that between me and you for nowSICK... more factuals... LMAO... boned Nas's girl...


BLUEPRINT 2:
Can't y'all, see that he's fake, the rap version of TD jakes
Prophesizing on your CDs and tapesdope
Won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes
And this is with whom you want to place your faith?once again, as I said... he's fake about all that talk about Africa 'n bullsh*t... he doesn't even go there on the real tip... that's some lazy sh*t... at least Kweli goes to the conventions in South Africa and raises money 'n sh*t... Nas dun' wanna back his word and go and help the people he speaks about helpin' all the time
I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
Donating proceeds off every ticket sold
When I was out on the road, that's how you judge Hov, no?SO SO SO SICK... proving more and more how Nas is fake and people tried to say Nas won but really didn't
Ain't I supposed to be absorbed myself?
Every time there's a tragedy, I'm the first one to help
They call me this misogynist, but they don't call me the dude
To take his dollars to give gifts at the projects
These dudes is all politics, depositing checks
they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip
And y'all buy the sh*t, caught up in the hype
Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bs that he writeLMAO... that sh*t was so muh'f*ckin' SICK!!! damn, the last four bars were sick
Is it "Oochie Wally Wally" or is it "One Mic"?
Is it "Black Girl Lost" or shorty owe you for ice?damn...
I've been real all my life, they confuse it with conceit
Since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat
But I will not lose, for even in defeat
There's a valuable lesson learned, so it evens it up for me
When the grass is cut, the snakes will show
I gotta thank the little homie Nas for that though
Saving me the hassle of speaking to half of these assholes
And I'ma let karma catch up to Jaz-O, whoa
I'm back before you had a chance to miss me
My mama can't save you this time, niggas is history
Who you know flow vicious as me?
Yet so religiously, that's why they call me Hov
I get the spoils cause the victor is me (me, nigga)
You're an actor, you're not who you're depicted to be
The street dreamin, all y'all niggas living through me
I gave you life when niggas was forgetting you emcee
I'm a legend, you should take a picture with me
You should be happy to be in my presence, I should charge you a fee
I'm Big Dog, Glenn Rob, listen God you a flea
And the little homey Jungle is a garden to me
What's the problem B? You not as hard as me
Nigga hard as we, nigga R O C, nigga
That's why they follow me, they feel my pain and my agony, nigga
I won't rest till you on one knee
You want war then it's war's gonna be, nigga
Until you on one knee, you want war then it's war's gonna be, nigga

THE REST WAS HISTORY... sh*t was dope as f*ck
 

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