Labels, useless mutherfu..didnt say it, meant it Options

[jo3]

Muslims say to kill anyone who does not convert. come on now that cant be good for anyone.

please please please please please don't believe what Muslim extremists say about Islam. Muslims say that these extremists are not representing what their religion truly is.

3. Muslim extremist (key word being extremist) want to kill people who don't convert. NOT ALL.

you got the facts straight...good job :D

Parts of the Old Testament clearly say to kill people who don't believe in God...

i dunno if you're just playing w/ sikdragon cuz of what he said, but if not...please find me that passage, because i'm 99.999999999% sure that it's not anywhere in the Bible

Sorry, that is just closed-minded and what you said in reply to Kathleen about atheists is untrue and unfair.

and is this not close-minded?

and since when do atheists go to church??? seriously. that's the most rediculous thing i ever heard. and they deny what christian bigots try to force feed them.

we're only hostile because we think of you as being hostile. we're not fond of christian biggots such as yourself.

about labels....i'd say i have a few labels of my own:
- Korean
- Asian
- American
- Christian
- Baptist

does that make me a bad person? i don't think so




1 question that i do have for atheists/agnostics (i'd prefer to have a calm discussion w/ no bashing...but do whatever you want):

if there is no God, then how was the universe made? i don't suppose that it just popped out of nowhere, or that it just happened to work out perfectly.

and for barelyy coherent...is there a reason why there are 2 y's in barelyy? sry...it was bothering me lol (maybe that's the reason? to grab ppl's attention?)

[Spirited Away]

if there is no God, then how was the universe made? i don't suppose that it just popped out of nowhere, or that it just happened to work out perfectly.

This question should be aim towards atheists as agnostics usually unsure of the matter (maybe we can continue this in the God thread?).

Well, even if one say that God created the universe, isn't that a work of magic then? God has magic ? How did He create the world anyway?

As for labels: "heathens", "infidels", "impious", "undevout", "unholy", and my favorite one of all "misbeliever".

[jo3]

This question should be aim towards atheists as agnostics usually unsure of the matter (maybe we can continue this in the God thread?).

will do

[sikdragon]

As I mentioned to you earlier in the Jesus topic, people can learn through people instead of "reading". Word by mouth isn't very reliable, but it certainly cannot be discredited unless you know for sure the person is incompetent.

a persons competence is not the problem, it is the persons interpretation. People tend to misunderstand other people and remember things wrong. No human is perfect.

I have no idea what on earth you're talking about. Do you have any proofs that I called myself a Deist (maybe I'm forgetting something I've said that should've been cleared up)? Not that I mind being called as such since I agree with some aspects of it, but I do not like people putting IGNORANT words in my mouth. Please refrain from doing so when I already cleared this up in an earlier post, thanks. 

Someone who replied to something i said at nearly the same time you did said something about being deist.

I have some labels. Godly people and Bad people. Unless we are guiltless and have been washed in the blood of Christ we are all bad.<-- do you see the period? that means that is the end of that sentence. nothing can be added or erased. My mind IS closed when it comes to that. Because there is nothing anyone can do to disprove that.

[Spirited Away]

Someone who replied to something i said at nearly the same time you did said something about being deist.

That doesn't mean that I called myself Deist... I just said that I agree with parts of what Deism suggests...

I have some labels. Godly people and Bad people. Unless we are guiltless and have been washed in the blood of Christ we are all bad.<-- do you see the period? that means that is the end of that sentence. nothing can be added or erased. My mind IS closed when it comes to that. Because there is nothing anyone can do to disprove that.

There are other ways to describe good and bad: moral and immoral, ethical and unethical. Why must religion takes precedent in all that we do when it isn't the first thing that developed our moralit?. Experience is the first thing that exposes us to right and wrong.

Who can disprove belief? Yours are beyond me and mine are beyond yours, believe it or not. Unless something is factual, validity of proof and soundness must be considered, and because faith can't really hold validity and soundness as there are always holes in the argument, then I don't see how you can disprove me nor I can disprove you. But, it is fun to try and learn from, in my opinion.

You can end your sentence there and be happy with being closed off to the world of possibilities, but I'm just as content as you, perhaps more, being exposed to alternatives and logical reasoning.

[sikdragon]

I am close minded because this is the most logical and most possible reasoning for our existence. There is nothing that can open my mind because this is the answer. Keep searching if you like.

That doesn't mean that I called myself Deist... I just said that I agree with parts of what Deism suggests...

I agreed with you that i may have been wrong about you calling yourself a deist drop it. I said it could have been someone else.


And yes this is fun debating everyone. Although at times it seems I am playing devil's advocate when i am not. I mean aside from the difference of our beliefs and first impressions we could have possibly been friends in another time and place, but hey it's cool arguing.

[Spirited Away]

I am close minded because this is the most logical and most possible reasoning for our existence. There is nothing that can open my mind because this is the answer. Keep searching if you like.

Most logical and most possible, in your opinion. I happen to believe differently and my opinions are just as meaningful as yours, which is a fact in my book and in yours as well because God asks His followers not to judge (or so I've been told).

Life is searching, if not for faith, then for love, purpose, happiness. Kudos to religions that already provided all those points, but I'm an adventurer who likes to discover these things for myself instead of having someone else tells me what I should believe, love, live for... etc.

I agreed with you that i may have been wrong about you calling yourself a deist drop it. I said it could have been someone else.

Dropped.

And yes this is fun debating everyone. Although at times it seems I am playing devil's advocate when i am not.

You? The Devil's advocate? Who'd had thought because that's my role.

[sikdragon]

im new here. well sorta new. dont know nobody cuz i scare people away with my right winged ideas. maybe it is because i only reply in the debate section.

I can admire an adventurers spirit. I long to be travelling like Bob Hope and Bing Crosby in The road to Rio and movies like that.

[gigiopolis]

and is this not close-minded?

No, it's not. Why? Well, I only stated he was closed minded. I didn't try to push something in your face, I didn't try to completely deny a fact. Maybe you should give actual reasons before accusing people.