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| *Kathleen* |
 May 17 2004, 08:49 PM
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Did Kurt Cobain truly kill himself, or is it all a conspiracy?
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May 18 2004, 02:18 AM
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I think we should remember him for what he did during his life. How he died is unimportant compared to his contribution to modern music.
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May 18 2004, 09:06 AM
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 - kuupi! ♥- Group: Member Posts: 937 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,148 |
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow they came out and said it wasn't a suicide. There's just something about that whole thing that doesn't seem right to me...
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May 18 2004, 10:59 AM
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personally, i don't think it was a suicide either... no where in the suicide note did he say he was actually committing suicide, and band members said that he was writing a note regarding his resignation from Nirvana, which was never found. Also, experts question the handwriting at the end, where he says he loves his daughter and stuff...
Just my two cents!! Kathleen, great thread  Thanks for the comment, by the way!! |
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| *Kathleen* |
May 18 2004, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE I think we should remember him for what he did during his life. How he died is unimportant compared to his contribution to modern music. Yes, I agree, but there are so many people out there that don't give him credit and say ignorant stuff such as, "Oh, teen angst all the way! Let me go shoot my brains out!" That to me, is utterly rude. I'm posting this in here for all those that think he did kill himself. |
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May 18 2004, 03:33 PM
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rookie Group: Member Posts: 723 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 2,291 |
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 18 2004, 7:17 PM) Yes, I agree, but there are so many people out there that don't give him credit and say ignorant stuff such as, "Oh, teen angst all the way! Let me go shoot my brains out!" That to me, is utterly rude. I'm posting this in here for all those that think he did kill himself. Well, that's what critics do, isn't it. |
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| *Kathleen* |
May 18 2004, 03:36 PM
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If you mean critics as in music critics, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about stubborn, incompetent people in everyday life...peers, I suppose.
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May 18 2004, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 18 2004, 8:36 PM) If you mean critics as in music critics, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about stubborn, incompetent people in everyday life...peers, I suppose. well, everyone is stubborn in their own kind of ways aren't they? If I hated rock or grunge and couldn't care less about Kurt Cobain, I'll probably have said whatever your peers might have said. |
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| *Kathleen* |
May 18 2004, 04:00 PM
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Ack...forget it...we're getting off topic.
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May 25 2004, 01:53 PM
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kathleen, what is your opinion? do you think he killed himself? or do you think he was murdered?
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| *Kathleen* |
May 25 2004, 02:18 PM
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Oh pft I definitely thing he was murdered! STUPID COURTNEY LOVE! BAH! Heh. Sorry. But yeah. There's a lot of aspects to it that makes it seem as it is; then again, you wonder if it's all media hype, you know. I honestly don't think he killed himself. Did you ever read stuff on that site? You should go to it. I'll post some of the points up there later...kind of lazy now.
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May 25 2004, 02:23 PM
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Wow it's been a long time!! Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 25 2004, 2:18 PM) Oh pft I definitely thing he was murdered! STUPID COURTNEY LOVE! BAH! Heh. Sorry. But yeah. There's a lot of aspects to it that makes it seem as it is; then again, you wonder if it's all media hype, you know. I honestly don't think he killed himself. Did you ever read stuff on that site? You should go to it. I'll post some of the points up there later...kind of lazy now. yeah i read his journal too!! and he totally didn't seeme like he wanted to be suicidal, even up until a month before it happened. he WAS talking about leaving Nirvana though... |
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| *Kathleen* |
May 25 2004, 05:51 PM
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And also, just look at all the stuff he planned on doing...I don't think he'd just quit on that stuff quite easily. He started designing the Jagstang for Fender and all that type of stuff...I don't think he was planning on not completing those projects.
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May 26 2004, 01:53 AM
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rookie Group: Member Posts: 723 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 2,291 |
We wouldn't have Foo Fighters today if Nirvana didn't split then, so I can't really say whether it was a good thing or a bad thing.
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May 26 2004, 04:03 PM
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I try not to think of his death but more rather his life dedicated to music. LONG LIVE NIRVANA!
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May 26 2004, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE We wouldn't have Foo Fighters today if Nirvana didn't split then, so I can't really say whether it was a good thing or a bad thing. I'm sure Dave Grohl would've formed the band anyways. |
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May 30 2004, 12:51 AM
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 LunchboxXx Group: Member Posts: 1,789 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,810 |
i'm actually glad he's dead. if he were still alive, grunge would be ruling the world and in order to rebel i'd hafta be some kinda thug and i don't wanna be a thug.
nirvana is the second most overrated band ever, next to the beatles. |
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May 30 2004, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE next to the beatles. Well, at least the beatles had more then one good song. |
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May 30 2004, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE Well, at least the beatles had more then one good song. Blah! I hope you're not talking about "Smells Like Teen Spirit"...that song should be...shot...haha. |
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May 30 2004, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE Blah! I hope you're not talking about "Smells Like Teen Spirit"...that song should be...shot...haha. Haha...i have to admit tho. The first time i heard it, i was all   Until...i heard it 500 more times. Most. Hyped. Song. Ever. |
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May 30 2004, 07:44 PM
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Haha.
QUOTE Most. Hyped. Song. Ever. Something we agree on.
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May 30 2004, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE Something we agree on.  ....... Hear that? It's the sound of the universe imploding and armageddon coming...and other things that signify our argreement as an apocolyptic event. ....yeahhhhh. |
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May 30 2004, 08:44 PM
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Haha.
 AHH THE WORLD IS GOING TO END! Wow. Yeah - it's quite a shocker. 
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May 30 2004, 08:49 PM
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Master Debater Group: Member Posts: 1,066 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 15,719 |
QUOTE Wow. Yeah - it's quite a shocker. Yeah, you're finally right! I keed I keed. |
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May 30 2004, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE "I feel guilty beyond words about these things -- for example, when we're backstage and the light go out and the roar of the crowd begins, it doesn't affect me the way in which it did for Freddie Mercury, who seemed to love and relish the love and adoration of the crowd." "Which is something I totally admire and envy. The fact that I can't fool you, any one of you, it simply isn't fair to you or to me. The worst crime I could think of would be to pull people off by faking it, pretending as if I'm having 100% fun" "Sometimes I feel as I should have a punch-in time-clock before I walk out on stage. I've tried everything within my power to appreciate it, and I do, God believe me I do, but it's not enough. I appreciate the fact that I and we have effected and entertained a lot of people. I must be one of those narcissists who only appreciate things when they're alone. I'm too sensitive. I need to be slightly numb in order to regain the enthusiasm I once had as a child. On our last 3 tours I've had a much better appreciation of all the people I know personally, and as fans of our music, but I still can't get out the frustration to gather the empathy I have for everybody. There's good in all of us and I simply love people too much." "So much that it makes me feel just too f**king sad. Sad little sensative unappreciative Pieces --" "I had a good marriage, and for that I'm grateful. But since the age of seven, I've become hateful toward all humans in general only because it seems so easy for people to get along that have empathy." "Only because I love and feel for people too much I guess Thank you all from the pit of my burning nauseous stomach for your letters and concern during the last years. I'm pretty much of an erratic moody person and I don't have the passion anymore. Peace, Love, Empathy, Kurt Cobain." does that sound like a suicide note? |
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