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[Tal_Dara]

Ok I am going to ask a serious question, and I want serious answers to them. So if you are going to be dumb about it then dont reply to this thread.

Should these things be legal/illegal in the United States and why?

1.) Abortion
2.) Assisted Suicide (in otherwards you assist someone into killing themselves)
3.) Euthanasia (basically this is also known as a mercy killing, like if someone is in pain and you pull th plug, of course Hitler used Euthenasia on the Jews dont forget)

Like I said serious replies only please. This question came up in my Political Science class, and I found it very interesting. I then decided to see what others felt about it.

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

by the way...there is no such thing as safe sex...itz called marraige.

[kevinma03]

theres may be no 100% safe sex but there is safer sex in comparis on to no protection

[hybrid]

Abortion should made to be illegal. It doesn't matter if you don't want the baby! Abortion is still killing and killing is wrong! Just put the baby up for adoption.

Cherish every living thing-- you know? Its called Respect, no matter how small or how big the living thing is.

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

look...the bottom line is that you are going to kill a baby becuz two ppl were in sin? and that you are going to only assist a suicide if they are old and in physical pain not young and in mental pain?

[kevinma03]

so you always look out for ants and bugs?

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

do they have souls? do they go anywhere other than the ground after they die? I dont think so...babies can make a difference ants can bite you

[kevinma03]

look...the bottom line is that you are going to kill a baby becuz two ppl were in sin? and that you are going to only assist a suicide if they are old and in physical pain not young and in mental pain? and also if a young person was in physical pain and theres nothing the doctors can do i have no qualms if they all agreed to euthanise.

yes bottom line is im going to kill a baby because two people were in "sin" even though that should not even be part of the argument because sinning is not a government regulated law.

and yes because the physical pain is to the point where theres nothing doctors can do. mental pain can be solved because its in the mind and not a physical manifestation.

[kevinma03]

do they have souls? do they go anywhere other than the ground after they die? I dont think so...babies can make a difference ants can bite you

i was refering to lilangelgurlpnai's quote about respecting every living things. and ants and bugs count as living things. and the presence of a soul isn't a fact, its a believe grounded on faith so dont use that to argue.

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

this is the response of sumbody who doesnt understand mental pain...you ahve nvr truly been hurt to the point of no return have you? Thatz what I though! It can be the same if not worse than physical and is not alwayz fixable by perscription.just time and prayer.

[hybrid]

Well.. that just confused me. But don't we all should respect things? At school, they are always like respect one another blah blah blah.

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

do you love? do you hate? do you feel emotionally? then you have a soul...what do you think that is a butt?

[kevinma03]

Monkeys feel, they have attachement towards their children, they have anger towards rival clans. they express emotion. do they have souls? and just because i display these qualities does NOT mean i have a soul. soul is a human concept that isn't based on any scientific proof.

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

you are hysterical....you are bringing back effortless arguments that are not helping you at all...the bottom line is that all of those three things are sins and should be made illegal.

[kevinma03]

the bottom line is ... whether anything is a sin or not shouldn't be factored into public policy regarding that issue.

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

I am gonna go tan now...have fun

[DisneyPrincessKa...]

1) I personally think that abortion is awful. It's the murder of another human, however, not everyone thinks the same way as I do. Making something illegal has never stopped anyone! If a woman is pregnant and wants to get rid of the baby it's at least safer for her if she can have it done at a doctor's office by a professional than having an abortion in the back of an alley by a guy who doesn't know crap.

2) I also think that assisted suicide is wrong. I believe that by taking your own life you are murdering and therefore damning yourself to Hell. I think that if a person is going to kill themselves they shouldn't bring another person into it, unless that other person is talking them down. In a way both people are murdering, so if you are committing suicide why hurt another person's soul?

3) I'm not too big on euthanising animals. If it is a human I think it's wrong, I'd never do it to an animal though. With animals their instinct is to survive, it's dobtful that they want you to take their lives. With humans it goes right back to murder.

Lot's of that is based on faith and religion. If you disagree, ok great, I think that the point of this was to find people point of view. That's what I believe though, let's not bash what people believe.

[chelle]

1)legal
2)illegal
3)legal

[kevinma03]

1) I personally think that abortion is awful. It's the murder of another human, however, not everyone thinks the same way as I do. Making something illegal has never stopped anyone! If a woman is pregnant and wants to get rid of the baby it's at least safer for her if she can have it done at a doctor's office by a professional than having an abortion in the back of an alley by a guy who doesn't know crap.

2) I also think that assisted suicide is wrong. I believe that by taking your own life you are murdering and therefore damning yourself to Hell. I think that if a person is going to kill themselves they shouldn't bring another person into it, unless that other person is talking them down. In a way both people are murdering, so if you are committing suicide why hurt another person's soul?

3) I'm not too big on euthanising animals. If it is a human I think it's wrong, I'd never do it to an animal though. With animals their instinct is to survive, it's dobtful that they want you to take their lives. With humans it goes right back to murder.

Lot's of that is based on faith and religion. If you disagree, ok great, I think that the point of this was to find people point of view. That's what I believe though, let's not bash what people believe.

i think this kind of open discussion is much more interesting than the million stupid games The Lounge has that are just pointless spamfests.

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

oooo....no comment cant do this again
must go on ahhh aaaaa aaaaaaaa
wanna talk..... but I cant

[kevinma03]

aren't you going tanning?

[pn41qt]

abortion should be ILLEGAl..because your someones life if you do it

[wayne]

i think it all should be illegal 1. because assisted suicide is the same thing as murder... is it not? Come on now lets think for a miniute, when you help kill somebody, and it is you that kills them... THAT IS MURDER! No way you can change that around, I mean, unless they kill themself, and you just hide the body, theres no way of changing the words, I killed him because he didnt want to live anymore. I mean, that crap is wack. And another reason why I think that should be illegal is because thats against my religion. And then for the abortion cause, the is murder in gods eyes as well. Why the hell would you kill a child just because you dont want it anymore. I mean that crap is wack also! I would never turn my back on my child, let alone kill them. I just cant see why somebody would do that. Would they like it if they were killed b4 they could expirience the change to breathe? See? Walk? Talk? I dont think they would. oh yeah, and for Euthanasia, thats just another for of murder. Why would you sin just for somebody else's sake? I mean, thats just not cool to me. My job is to please god, not to please somebody that rather die than not feel pain. Crap, they better get over it cause I am not sinning and going to hell just because they cant takle pain that will EVENTUALLY go away.


In the end, I guess you could say that my opinons are based off of my religion, but hey what can I say...

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

thatz what I have been sayin' all day..I'm wid u

[iloveyou07]

Ok I am going to ask a serious question, and I want serious answers to them. So if you are going to be dumb about it then dont reply to this thread.

Should these things be legal/illegal in the United States and why?

1.) Abortion
2.) Assisted Suicide (in otherwards you assist someone into killing themselves)
3.) Euthanasia (basically this is also known as a mercy killing, like if someone is in pain and you pull th plug, of course Hitler used Euthenasia on the Jews dont forget)

Like I said serious replies only please. This question came up in my Political Science class, and I found it very interesting. I then decided to see what others felt about it.

they all should be illegal

[AmesBond]

Okay, people are going to hate me for this, but I think they should ALL be LEGAL under certain circumstances. Keep in mind I'm not telling you to do these things. You are human, you have a choice, and your choice is yours, and soley yours, and not mine.

1. Abortion - Legal
People have the right to choose. They don't want to bring a baby into the world, they're not ready, the world might not treat the child fairly, etc. It's not like I don't like life, or like I don't want the kid to live, it's just that it's not my choice (or anybody's) to make. And if they do choose this route (as opposed to having the kid, giving it up to adoption, leaving it on the side of the road, putting it in a SafeHaven etc), I hope that they can.

2. Assisted Suicide - Legal
Picture having such an ailment that is so painful you have take a handful or three of pills a day, that have such side-effects that include puking, dizziness, nausea, headaches, loss of appetite, tremors, drowziness, blood clotting, etc., you don't even feel like a human being anymore, you have tubes and wires entering and exiting various parts of your body, you can't live life to it's fullest because you're stuck in bed bleeding from your ulcers. You want to kill yourself, but you can't do it alone because you already feel so wretched and you are in so much pain you can't even move. Don't you wish that doctor was there, with syringe in hand, ready to make you finally at peace?

3. Euthanasia - Legal
I think this is already legal, isn't it? Someone is suffering from intolerable pain, someone isn't even conscious anymore (comatose, brain dead, etc), what's the point of keeping them alive when you can help them reach a point of peace, as well as donate their organs to someone who might want to live and needs an organ?

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but this is the way I feel. I hope religious people won't come kick my ass. I'm sorry! But the way I feel is backed by reasoning! At least I'm not blatantly saying, "NO!" or "YES!"