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post Feb 16 2004, 09:13 PM
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Ok I am going to ask a serious question, and I want serious answers to them. So if you are going to be dumb about it then dont reply to this thread.

Should these things be legal/illegal in the United States and why?

1.) Abortion
2.) Assisted Suicide (in otherwards you assist someone into killing themselves)
3.) Euthanasia (basically this is also known as a mercy killing, like if someone is in pain and you pull th plug, of course Hitler used Euthenasia on the Jews dont forget)

Like I said serious replies only please. This question came up in my Political Science class, and I found it very interesting. I then decided to see what others felt about it.
 
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post Feb 16 2004, 09:38 PM
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all of that should be illegal.

abortion...seriously, its the killing of other human being, regardless of its a cell.. its still killing it.

euthanasia...nah, it shouldnt be illegal. what about people in a vegetable state?
assisted suicide...omg..make it stop!
 
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post Feb 16 2004, 09:38 PM
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1.) Abortion - Okay, I'm kind of neutral when it comes to this topic. I mean, it's the person's own fault that they got pregnant, so they should take the responsibility. There are other options--such as adoption. But then again, if the person unwillingly became pregnant then I can understand why they wouldn't want to deal with all this.

The legality of abortion is being easily abused. Instead of thinking of other solutions, a lot of people go for the easiest thing for them. I think the option should still be open though.. I'm leaning more towards pro-life, so I'll say it should be illegal even though we know that people will be aborting whether or not it's legal.

2.) Assisted Suicide - Straight forward, I'll say it should be illegal. Why would you want to help someone kill themself? I don't really have much to say about this one..

3.) Euthanasia - I'm actually doing a term paper on this. I don't think it should be legalized, because this is another thing that could be abused. You never know what could have happened to the person if you hadn't "pulled the plug." I know that people don't like to suffer, but they should at least wait and see what will happen to the person before killing them.
 
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In my opinion, Abortion and Euthanasia can be made legal/illegal. But how do you make Assited Suicide legal/illegal? It's not like there's a camera following you everywhere you go and detecting what you say/do. Eh, I don't know how to say it, but you know what I'm trying to say, right? wink.gif
 
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post Feb 16 2004, 10:45 PM
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pretty much agree with what Alk3 wrote...but i'm a bit more..you could say..traditional? prolife?
*Abortion-no. a baby is still a living being. it's amazing how we go beserk if someone purposefully kills an baby animal..but believes a newborn baby is just a mess of skin. it's ironic..and to me..disgusting.
*Assisted Suicide & Euthanasia-when doing any of those two...would be reallyyy mess up our definitions of "murder" and "assisted suicide" or "euthanasia". you think you're ugly..you want to die. i kill you/help you kill you. murder you say? nawww just using my euthanasia/assissting suicide freedom! *please note the sarcasm*
 
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i think they shoul all be illegal except for numero 3.. i mean, if someones in pain, killing them would put them at rest/ease from not only the pain, but all the other junk in the world.... right?
 
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post Feb 17 2004, 12:49 AM
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wow the responces have been great so far!
 
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post Feb 17 2004, 02:27 AM
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I am against abortion, but for the sake of differing opinions, i believe it should be legal. It should be up to the person to make that decision, not the government.. despite how immoral I think it is.

Assisted Suicide? What? What's the counter argument FOR that? "I want to commit a selfish act and be even more selfish by bringing someone else into the picture." I'm sorry, I'm ignorant on this one

Euthanasia? I have mixed feelings about this one... then again wouldn't there be many circumstances with a thin line drawn between assisted suicide and euthanasia? And if one were to be legal and the other illegal, couldn't one plead this over that.. and regardless of situation, have their death wish fulfilled? They'd be the same thing then. I don't know how to explain haha stubborn.gif
 
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I'm going to add divorce to this picture too

1. Abortion- Illegal. People should be responsible for their actions and abortion is a way to get around it at the expense of a baby's life. However, maybe it should be legal for only rape victims... But would that mean rape statistics suddenly increase, just so people could have their children aborted?

2. Assisted Suicide- Illegal.

3. Euthanasia- Illegal. But i think there should be some exceptions to this, like if there was some horrible disease making the person really miserable. But if there were exceptions, they'd have to make sure everything was defined clearly, so no one could murder someone by getting through a loophole.

4. Divorce- Illegal, if children are involved. It's not fair for the kids to go through a divorce because the parents can't agree with each other.
 
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post Feb 17 2004, 11:37 AM
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1. Abortion- I know this may be the un-Christian thing to say, but I think it should be legalized. Just because it's legal doesn't mean everyone is going to do it. They should at least have the choice. If it's illegalized, this is taking away the choice of the people, which is the natural-born right of the human being. Also, even if it's illegalized, people are going to do it illegally anyway, probably using a more dangerous method. By professional doctors handling abortion, it guarantees a safer method than the "hanger method", you know? And an undeveloped baby fetus may be up to debate whether it's living or not. It's all subject to opinion. Abortion is not the same as killling a born baby. A fetus is not fully developed and has no capabilities to do anything.

2. Assisted Suicide- As in physician assisted suicide, aka Dr. Kevorkian? I think it should be legal but only in extreme cases where the patient is feeling unbearable pain. It should not be a way to commit suicide, for a healthy person.

3. Euthanasia- It should be legal, because people should feel as less pain as possible. If a person is going to die anyway from cance or some other form of disease, it's senseless to let that person suffer when he could have a quick painless death. The person must agree to it, however. The cases of people in a vegetative state can be argued... by the family, not the physician's recommendations.

Euthanasia on animals is another touchy subject, since animals aren't exactly given a choice whether they want to be euthanized or not. I was watching this dog shelter documentary on Discovery, and temperamental dgos were put to sleep. Some weren't even that "bad". It's not fair that this dog should die for having the potential to bite someone. It's not like he bit anyone, and it's not fair that they should die for their natural instinct.
 
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post Feb 17 2004, 12:53 PM
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abortion has been something that i've been strongly against for a couple of years now. i mean your basically killing an innocent child that had no choice in the matter, and ur messing with God's plan. a lot of people dont see that theres a HUGE difference between PRO-LIFE and PRO-CHOICE. people think of abortion as a way out. that they can have sex and if they get pregnant then they can just abort the child and they have their life back. so to sum it up abortion and assisted suicide should be ILLEGAL. if u wanna help make these two things illegal then let me know cuz my churches deacon gave me address to senators and maybe u could voice ur concerns.

euthanasia is a foggy subject for me becuz there are so many senarios that go with this word. like others have said if they're in a vegetated (sp?) and have been in it a while then i think that would be okay. i dont know im really confused on this one.

hope this helped!
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 02:05 PM
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They should all be illegal.

Abortion: you are killing an unborn child. Takingt he life away from a living breathing beautiful child...those children they are killing could be the next presidents and leaders, pastors and lawyers, could be civil rights leaders and help save our lives....there is no excuse for killing children born or unborn.

Assisted suicide: Why dont you just murder the person? There is nothing good about taking somebodies life away...nobody..other than God owns that right.

Pulling the plug: That is horrible...it shoudl be illegal.
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:07 PM
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I think it should all be illegal.

The bible says thou shalt not kill. And all of those things qualify as killing because you are taking someone's life. We shouldn't be playing God.
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:09 PM
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exactly...you go gurl!!!
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:15 PM
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i agree... im a strong christian and i dont believe in any of those things... i know i know about abortion, "womens right to choose" but guess what its not your life! i was adopted, and abortion was on my mothers mind... if it werent so looked down upon back then... i wouldnt be here... just something to think about mellow.gif
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:16 PM
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Abortion : I agree with alk3, it depends on the person who IS pregnant. If they choose that they do not want to be pregnant, its their choice to sign up for abortion.

Assisted Suicide: This should be illegal, because you are technically killing the person who wants to commit suicide. Commiting suicide is a sin, and so is (or I believe) assisted suicde.

Euthanasia: This should not be illegal, but only for doctors, and if the person wants do die. If vets can put animals to sleep, why not humans? If the person really IS suffering, then let them go (that is, if they want to)
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:19 PM
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umm..ok well..hav eyou seen the anti-drug commercial...where there is a girl drowning in a lake and her friend is just watching her and not helping? That is horrible and we all know that in our heads we should jump in after our friends....we know that we shoudll save the unborn children but ppl are convincing us to believe itz normal....itz not!!!! and if you find killing sum1 a sin and you know what a sin is than you should understand that killing unborn babies is the same thing...A SIN!!!
 
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QUOTE(Tal_Dara @ Feb 16 2004, 6:13 PM)
Ok I am going to ask a serious question, and I want serious answers to them. So if you are going to be dumb about it then dont reply to this thread.

Should these things be legal/illegal in the United States and why?

1.) Abortion
2.) Assisted Suicide (in otherwards you assist someone into killing themselves)
3.) Euthanasia (basically this is also known as a mercy killing, like if someone is in pain and you pull th plug, of course Hitler used Euthenasia on the Jews dont forget)

Like I said serious replies only please. This question came up in my Political Science class, and I found it very interesting. I then decided to see what others felt about it.

1. Legal. I just think it should be legal. If you can't take care of the kid, then why bring them into the world?
2. Illegal. It's just like being an accomplise to a murder (whether or not your helping that person kill themselves or someone else)
3. Legal. Sometimes it's better if you just let the person go so that they don't suffer anymore. If there's like no chance they're gonna get better, and you have them on life support suffering, until they die, then I don't think it's right. Let them go so they wont suffer
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:21 PM
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abortion, keep it the way it is, legal to the third trimester

assisted suicide: im saying no but i really dont care about moron that want to kill themsleves

euthanasia: yes legalize but only if there is express persmission not only from patient and doctor but from relatives. That way doctors can't take advantage of ailing patients (just incase that doctor is some kind of sicko)

The real question is whether we should legalize prostitution, a victimless crime
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:22 PM
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ok...well letz put it this way...

1. You are killing a future president, lawyer, mother, example, beautiful child
2. Yes it shuld be illegal
3. when you are old we will remember this and pull your plug on you.
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:25 PM
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1. you are killing the future stalin, mussolini, serial rapist, serial killer, drug dealer
2. yes it should be illegal
3. when YOU are old and suffering every moment of your life but technically you are still alive, do you want to stay that way? it's not killing people simply because their old, its because life has become so excruciatingly painful that they themselves welcome death.
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:28 PM
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1. Put them out for adoption...raise them with somebody else but dont kill them...if this stupid country wasnt soo fascinated with sex then this wouldnt be a problem in the first place.
3. Pain is better than sending sumbody to hell for killing you. Oh, adn this is the same thinga s assisted suicide..thinka bout it for a second
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(tomorrow_nvr_comes @ Mar 17 2004, 3:28 PM)
3. Pain is better than sending sumbody to hell for killing you. Oh, adn this is the same thinga s assisted suicide..thinka bout it for a second

yep, you're right. they're pretty much the same thing.
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:31 PM
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1. the whole process of labor is a lot taxing than you think. and yes this country is very fascinated with sex, that why we should be distributing condoms out in highschools and also teaching further methods of safe sex. because lets face it folks, preaching abstinence all day long is NOT working.

3. "sending sumbody to hell for killing you" that is a christian philosophy and you can't apply christian philosophy to public policy because well... goes back to our Decision 2004 argument, you can't mix religion and politics. what if my religion is that killing someone when they're in that kind of pain does not send me to hell. what happens then.
 
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post Mar 17 2004, 03:33 PM
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ok...this is all about religion...thatz what it is...

so what are you anywayz?
 

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